Hip pain when riding - solutions?

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I'm sure I'm not the only person that suffers hip pain from riding.

Basically I've gone from where I was two years ago being able to ride for many hours/long distances with no hip pain to my current position where I can manage about an hour before the pain becomes excruciating. I've done the GP/x-rays thing - which do show arthritic changes, especially in the left hip but evidence in both. However the GP's conclusion was that it doesn't affect my day to day life, only when I'm riding, so not anywhere near the point I would be put on the waiting list for hip replacements. Her answer was to take pain killers when I needed them but even a handful of ibuprofen before I ride makes no difference.

The problem started after I had a summer competing and riding long hours followed by a winter when the horses tend to have a few months off. When I began riding again after a couple of months break thats when I started experiencing the pain - so there does seem to be an element of lack of muscle tone/fitness but how can I get riding fit again if I can't ride for more than 45mins/ 1 hour without massive pain? I did manage two hours in the saddle yesterday but it was agony - and by the end trotting was out of the question. My horse did a tiny spook and it was as if someone was stabbing me in the hip joints with an extremely long and sharp knife. If he'd done anything seriously naughty I'd have collapsed off him in pain.

It has become a huge problem and I wonder what other people do about managing it? I'm thinking exercises out of the saddle, perhaps going swimming? Perhaps try a different saddle (I ride in a Strada - no idea if it has a narrow/medium or wide twist) or some glucosamine supplements?

Any advice VERY gratefully received.
 

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I imagine that there will be plenty of people advising you on exercises, their experiences etc.

My solution was a bit more radical, and for most people not something they would consider, I changed my style of riding, and bought gaited horses. No posting, no bumping, no more hip or knee problems.
 

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Yes, I have hip problems. Mine built up over time I think from doing a lot of driving (it's my right leg/ hip that I have a prob with) and sitting at a desk, plus I do have one leg shorter than the other and was told to expect problems with my right hip as I got older. I then fell a couple of years ago on my drive when it was icy and jarred it, and despite physio etc it's never quite gone away.

If I don't ride regularly my right hip seizes up and I struggle to use my right leg correctly. My right hip flexors are significantly tighter than my left and physio says I have some SI dysfunction.

I've had loads of physio which helps, but the major thing for me is that I have to do a lot of stretching. I try to do at least 20 mins of yoga most days to stretch it out (all of stretches given by the physio were just yoga stretches) and a combination of yoga and pilates for core strength. I need to keep a strong core to keep that whole area stabilised. I also find the more physically fit I am, the better my hips/ pelvis/ SI issues are. I cycle and swim when I have time, and if I have time off those, I do struggle.

If it's playing up or I've over stretched/ stretched with cold muscles I find ibuprofen does help, before riding. I also find stretching/ yoga for 30 mins before riding, when possible, helps enormously.
 

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I have now had one hip replacement. Previous to the operation I changed my saddle to one with a narrower twist. This did make things more comfortable for quite some time although eventually the pain did return with a vengeance but by then I was on the waiting list. Absolutely no pain in that hip now 😊
 

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Would your Doctor be able to refer you to a physiotherapist for some relevant exercises, or can you contact the physiotherapist directly yourself, ( we can where I live). I have always found them very good.
 

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Your saddle can make a huge difference. A narrow twist will help a lot, and there is no getting away from the reality that trees are hard/uncomfortable on a dodgy joint, so investigate a "good" treeless, a Solution Smart for example.

I'd tell my GP that riding is my day to day life.

I would love to try a paso fino .. there aren't too many in Scotland, I think. : )
 

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I walk, I've got dogs do its needed, I found it I pace myself walking I can get my gait right it helps build up my muscles and then helps with riding.
 

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I saw a good physio and with me it was building up my glutes that have stopped the pain. My joints are hypermobile so my hip wasn't staying in the 'sweet spot' and there is a bit of wear and tear there. By working on my glutes they now keep my hip joint stable and in the right position so provided I don't do anything silly I am ok. I was walking 5 miles a day and generally active but apparently my glutes were still extrememly weak, it is really hard focussed work to get them going but once I did it paid benefits.
 

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have your X-rays been looked at by an orthopaedic surgeon or just your GP? I had similar problems and spent 2 years in pain and spent a lot of money on phisios etc etc convinced it was muscles and old age, finally saw a consultant and it was a hip replacement I needed. Had the op which was a great success and was back riding after 5 months. And having the other hip done in a couple of days time!
Don't want to be the post of doom and gloom and I'm all for the exercise route but based on personal experience see a consultant if you haven't already done so.
 

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I would love to try a paso fino .. there aren't too many in Scotland, I think. : )

http://www.pfauki.org/association.html

If there is someone near you I can practically guarantee that they would be thrilled to let you have a go :) Pasos are such versatile horses, with such a wide variety of temperaments that there is one to suit most people, and if you don't come away with a Paso Grin, then there other gaited horses to try.

It is said that if you like hotter horses then you will like pasos, if you prefer a slightly more laid back horse (quarter horse is what we say here) then try a Rocky, or a Kentucky, or a Walker. All very comfortable, no jolting. I had to give up my arabs because I simply couldn't post to the trot anymore, my hips and knees are completely shot, with the pasos I am fine, I rode a KMH (Kentucky Mountain Horse) the other day, a bit too tall for my liking, but so very smooth :)
 

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Hmm, thanks for the link Enfys but nothing is near me. I'm beginning to think there must be a gap in the market. So many crocked riders - so few smooth paced, purpose bred equines in this country. I have never heard of a Kentucky Mountain Horse. : )
 

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Unfortunately if you go the NHS route for physio you'll be in your box before you even get anywhere near anyone's waiting list; and then all that will happen is that you'll be given a list of exercises to go do at home :(

I have "dicky hips" and have regular McTimoney, as do the horses (important that your horse also gets treatment as well as you). This is four times a year, and does help to keep me "sound".

I am also a dance teacher, and so know how to exercise and stretch correctly, which is important.

I feel OP that you may benefit from seeking out a private physio or chiropractor and having some sessions with them as they may be able to help you cope with your symptoms and give you some exercises and stretches to do. I'd be inclined to ask around your horsey contacts for the people they use, as you really do need someone who is used to dealing with the problems relating to riding - rather than someone who, yes, is a sports injury therapist, but who doesn't "get" the horse riding thing.

Please be careful if searching on-line for stretches; as a lot of what I have seen on there, as a fitness professional I'd only recommend them to a fit 17 year old TBH and no-one else.

Ditto advice re. saddles too. I ride in a treeless saddle, one with a really nice narrow twist; the ONLY treeless saddle that I can ride in for more than an hour without being in excruciating pain in. Its the new Tor GP saddle by Tree Free Saddles. Lovely!
 

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Hmm, thanks for the link Enfys but nothing is near me. I'm beginning to think there must be a gap in the market. So many crocked riders - so few smooth paced, purpose bred equines in this country. I have never heard of a Kentucky Mountain Horse. : )

There is a definite gap in the market, if I could swap some gaited horses for a shipment of coloured cobs we'd do OK.

Gaited horses here are as cheap as chips, like coloureds in any UK market, I can pick up trained horses for $700, whereas coloureds (quality not required :( as long as they are labelled Tinker, or Vanner, or Gypsy, or Traditional - all different don't you know ;) *snorts* ) are making THOUSANDS :eek:

Kentuckys are gorgeous, often chocolate, or grulla :) and seriously nice 'people

A friends KMH at a demo, there are some Icelandics and a TWH (I think) in the ring too. https://www.facebook.com/256473367759869/videos/vb.256473367759869/853584471382086/?type=2&theater
 
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your doctor is making a judgement on how you should live your life...and just because you can do the basics that doesn't mean you have the life YOU want...I was struggling for years, and eventually could only ride for about 10 mins , had x rays and I was told the hips were within normal limits (whatever that means) I kept going back and saying how much pain I was in and he finally referred me to an orthopaedic surgeon. the surgeon had x rays done and said my only option was hip replacement as my hip joint was bone on bone and he was surprised that I hadn't been referred earlier. don't know how old you are but I was 60 at the time...I would keep on at your doctor if you want to keep riding as I wish I had been referred earlier and i could have got back to riding properly sooner and enjoying life..
 

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I have now had one hip replacement. Previous to the operation I changed my saddle to one with a narrower twist. This did make things more comfortable for quite some time although eventually the pain did return with a vengeance but by then I was on the waiting list. Absolutely no pain in that hip now 😊
I second getting a saddle with a narrow twist, it cured my hip pain, I have an Albion but I bet Oz can advise some good makes,
 
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Many thanks for all the responses - good to know I am not alone.

At the GP's I probably didn't stress how much pain I was in as I really don't want to go down the surgery route - cowardice more than anything. I'm 43 btw. Surgery may be down the line but I want to try other things first. I have a great McTimony person who does the horses - she also treats humans so I will get in touch with her and see what she can do.

Saddles - interesting that a couple of people have mentioned treeless - I'd always assumed as they don't have any twist at all that they would be far worse than a treed saddle? I have had treeless in the past though my current horse really hated it when I tried him in a HM Phoenix saddle a few years ago. I loved the saddle - he disagreed but we could try again. If a change of saddle would help then that would be a way forwards but saddles are so expensive if you have to keep chopping and changing and without riding in one for an hour or so I wouldn't know if it was better than what I have currently.

Of course changing the horse would be even more expensive! I've always wanted an Icelandic but I can't have another one at the moment and couldn't sell the one I have at the moment anyway.

The McTimony/warming up/stretching and general fitness are all things I can start doing right away.

Thanks again all :)
 

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In the past I did find that a Solution helped my SI area, and stopped the shooting pain.

More recently I have found that the ArcEquine that I bought for my horse has really helped. It has got me back to the stage I can run again, and I did not think that would ever happen.

Sadly I felt so confident I went out and bought a BIG horse, and find that better is a relative term, and although I am fine on a small, old horse, it is still not good enough for a big, young one, even though she did nothing wrong!
 

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Is there any way you can be referred to a consultant? After 3 hip operations and only bring 30, I've found that the doctors don't really know much. I was referred to a consultant who yes did an X-ray, but they telling one was when they injected dye and you then have an mri. My other hip was operated on as I was in pain riding...he did it quickly as these things only get worse. I have had two hip arthroscopys (keyhole) in the hope I won't need a hip replacement.
 

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Hmm, thanks for the link Enfys but nothing is near me. I'm beginning to think there must be a gap in the market. So many crocked riders - so few smooth paced, purpose bred equines in this country. I have never heard of a Kentucky Mountain Horse. : )
I came across this when searching for articles on hip pain/ relief when riding gaited horses.

FYI I bred Rocky & Kentucky Mountain Horses in Yorkshire. We are the only ones in the UK but it’s cottoning on fast!D5996E42-B9F2-44A0-AAAB-805A1C5FB68C.jpeg
 

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Speak to your physio/McTimoney persona and get some exercises to help strengthen, and ask their advice on Pilates/yoga.

I used to have terrible hip pain from riding when I was only 19 or 20 - if I had a lesson in a dressage saddle I could hardly walk after. I had a couple of sessions with a physio who specialised in Pilates for horses riders and have never looked back. I'm now early 30s, work out daily on top of riding including Pilates or yoga, doing a Pilates instructor course and never have the type of hip pain I did when I was younger.

Edited to add, if general strength work is not going to help do speak to GP again about hip replacements. My mum had hers done a couple of years ago (she is mid 60s) after at least 10 years of not being able to ride and wished she had them done sooner.
 

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BB - I am in a similar position to you but had one hip resurfaced a few years ago which worked brilliantly. Specialist won't resurface the other one because 'statistically outcomes are poor for females' and expects me to wait until the other one fails and go for a full replacement. I have found riding narrower horses and riding in jump not dressage saddles works best for me. Stretches help a bit, but the tightness is my body trying to protect my hip so there's only soo much that stretching can do.
 

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Realise this post is from 2015 but for anyone else suffering from hip pain this video
and subsequent equi Pilates really helped with my left hip pain. It can be useful to determine if it’s caused by uneven weight distribution when riding. Sometimes this is so subtle that you only realise once pain in one side develops.
 

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is there any way you can afford to pay for a private consultation even if not a hip replacement. I think the only way to make progress is to choose a consultant carefully and get a proper assessment of the problem then you have an idea of the way forward. There may be some other treatment required that was possible.

I wonder if you appeared a bit too healthy when you visited your GP. I would have looked up the NHS guidelines to see how bad I had to be before I was progressed to a consultant. Then made sure the doctor understood I couldn't sleep at night, could barely get up in the morning etc and whatever else was required rather than mentioning the riding. Could be worth considering if you have to go back.
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Hmm, thanks for the link Enfys but nothing is near me. I'm beginning to think there must be a gap in the market. So many crocked riders - so few smooth paced, purpose bred equines in this country.

It has already been tried and whilst in theory it is a great idea and there is a market in practice there was no interest,

I had Peruvians one of the smoothest of the gaited breeds. There were mares and stallions in England at stud (not mine) and any number could have been produced. People were just not interested. Not even interested enough to ask what they were or even what gaiting was.

One of mine was an ex stud stallion, brio (brilliance) overflowed, in the show ring with his full set of Peruvian show tack which is magnificent in itself he looked amazing. The total Wow factor.

I sometimes rode him out like that for fun. Not a single comment from other riders, absolutely no interest whatsoever from anyone. `Not even to ask what he was or say how odd he looked. Zilch. No one was interested in how smooth they were for rider's with bad backs etc. Did they jump? No, end of interest. I think the only people who ever tried mine were other Peruvian owners. No other people interested enough to even sit on one.

The only comments were ever got were from non horsey members of the public.
Mine are all dead now and AFAIK there are no others in the country.

There used to be Rockies not far from me but again I don't think people were interested. The British are very conservative.
 

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Moderation in all things is the answer for me. Narrow horse, different saddle but above all moderation. My RI advised me not to hack and canter extensively on two consecutive days. So I never have and both my cantering and my hips remain fine.
The only day there was pain was after I misguidedly hacked a new horse and a new route, rising trot for most of 75 minutes.
I suppose the opposite model is the Queen and others much older than me who still ride every day.
I wouldnt want to have a gaited horse myself. It is rising trot which is good for my back. NHS exercises for aging backs replicated rising trot and I would rather do it on a horse.

It isnt that British are conservative. There were gaited horses in early Tudor England, native breeds now lost. But they couldnt carry the load of a soldier in armour and demand fell.
 

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Having had Icelandics for nearly 30 years I really miss having other gaits and needing to trot when I'm on another horse. My comfiest horse was a mare I used to have she was amazingly smooth.
 
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