woodgnome
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Mutazayid is a lovelly big 17hh middleweight TB standing in Devon. He's at vaulterhill stud in 2010, same place as Bandmaster etc.
HIS type stallions
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rachael521
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sire to look out for and use next year is DARNAY!!! lovely horse.. stands at grove court stud
Simsar
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Thanks the mare in question was eventually put to our young ID stallion as we couldn't find a TB in our budget that suited her conformation and breeding.
I have since bought a real traditional HIS type TB mare and put her in foal to Primo Pageant. We are now eagerly awaiting April to see the results. I think Sarah has had a look at Darnay a couple of times, but for the new mare I have been told to try and stay away from anything with Northern Dancer for her(hard I know)
Thanks again
Eothain
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Don't forget that other nice horse near you there that has the thoroughbreds Furioso, Lucky Boy, Orange Peel, Golden Beaker and Sky Boy in his back breeding! What's his name again? While I'm trying to think of it, it's worth noting that he's free of Northern Dancer bloodlines!
Oh yeah, now I remember ... ... ... Billy Congo
Oh yeah, now I remember ... ... ... Billy Congo
Simsar
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Sorry never heard of him, how many HIS premiums does he have???
Eothain
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A Nations Cup victory ... The only premium that matters!!!
GinnieRedwings
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magic104
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Another old fashioned type HIS TB was Sovereign King. Did you look at Andes by Heights of Gold 16.3hh dk Bay? I liked Jendali both in movement & temperment, but not sure if he fits the bill of old fashioned. Mourne Mountains stands 16.2hh seems quiet compact. Another stallion is Darnay a 16.1 brown TB by Darshaan.
Simsar
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Haven't got a witty reply for that, fair play...................
so I will just speak the truth, he has not got enough TB as it is for a TB mare to breed a HIS type TB, needs to be full TB not WB sorry.
Simsar
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SJ is not everything you know, we are not all into fluff and late night partying!
The other half
Maesfen
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SJ is not everything you know, we are not all into fluff and late night partying!
The other half
You didn't add bling and bad taste either!
Am I just old or do most showjumpers now have the Essex mentality of brash is best? So many seem to look so scruffy nowadays, Pat Smythe would turn in her grave.vicijp
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To answer the questions I can remember!
Darnay - The Irish near enough paid the English to take him away - very hot and weaves like a maniac.
Double Trigger - Spent more time in the pool then on the gallop when in training (feet).
Danehills - You can't beat them for soundness(wind and limb) and temperament. I'm not just saying that because I have a Danehill line stallion - we have had a stack of them in training over the years (do have 1 broodmare by Mull Of Kintyre at the mo). They tend to be straightforward and as hard as nails. Would pick them over Saddlers Wells thingys every time.
Darnay - The Irish near enough paid the English to take him away - very hot and weaves like a maniac.
Double Trigger - Spent more time in the pool then on the gallop when in training (feet).
Danehills - You can't beat them for soundness(wind and limb) and temperament. I'm not just saying that because I have a Danehill line stallion - we have had a stack of them in training over the years (do have 1 broodmare by Mull Of Kintyre at the mo). They tend to be straightforward and as hard as nails. Would pick them over Saddlers Wells thingys every time.
Simsar
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You didn't add bling and bad taste either!Am I just old or do most showjumpers now have the Essex mentality of brash is best? So many seem to look so scruffy nowadays, Pat Smythe would turn in her grave.
Eothain
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True, Showjumping isn't everything ... neither is Eventing or Dressage. The Olympic disciplines combined are the only thing ...
Remember, it's not the taking part that matters, it's the winning that counts!
Remember, it's not the taking part that matters, it's the winning that counts!
Blacklist
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My lips are sealed - as there are many good TB stallions around in the North and South. If one looks back to the heyday of the H.I.S most of the top tb's ie: Kadir Cup, Armagnac Monarch, Vanity Fair, Current Magic, Solon Morn etc stood at 15.3 - 16.1hh.
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Blacklist
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I was just wondering if anyone could recommend any TB stallions of the traditional HIS stamp?
I know about the obvious ones like Kings Composer, Weld, Primo Pageant etc, but just wondered about any younger ones that I might not have looked at, they seem to be becoming harder to find and we have lost quite a few of the older ones (likes Lord David S, Roviris and Andes) in recent years.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
MUTAZAYID 17hh stands in Devon although he is a lot taller than most of the top H.I.S sires of yesteryear.
magic104
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I have just been sent this article on him
New arrival Urkel has the 'wow factor', says stud owner Graham
10:00 - 16-April-2010
When Graham Heal admits a horse in his yard has the "wow factor" you know he has found something special, and his latest acquisition has created quite a buzz in Westcountry breeding circles.
The horse in question is Urkel, a smart licensed AES stallion, about whom Graham admits he is very excited. "He must be the best-looking horse we've ever had on the yard and he behaves impeccably," said Graham, who is standing Urkel at his Vauterhill Stud, near Umberleigh, Devon.
"He has the looks of a show horse, the movement of a pure dressage horse and he has some of the most sought-after bloodlines in showjumping," he added. "He has a very good technique over his fences with enormous scope."
The 17hh grey showjumped to 1.35m level with Peter Charles before injury forced his early retirement. He was advertised for sale and Graham jumped at the chance to buy him, having studied his breeding and seen his exceptional movement.
He is by Quite Easy. who jumped internationally with Peter Erikkson, and his sire Quidam de Revel brings together the Galoubet and Alme influence with Landgraf and Capitano. His dam is Birthe II, who is out of the celebrated mare U-Capitola, a full sister to Capital I, Capital II and Capital III, the former the all time leading sire in the world. Urkel's first foals were born in 2004 and are already establishing themselves as competition horses with a future.
Graham has also acquired the beautifully-bred ten-year-old Mutazayid a Thoroughbred by Darshaan out of Wijdan (Mr Prospector). "I saw him last autumn and I was surprised by what I saw. He's a lovely easy horse and he will throw event or show types, although with his pedigree and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a few runners too. We saw half a dozen of his foals last year and I was very impressed. They are very nicely put together," said Graham.
"He's a lovely old fashioned type of Thoroughbred with good conformation which makes him suitable for all types of mares. He would be ideal to put quality and pace on a heavier mare or add bone and substance to a lighter mare."
Also standing at Vauterhill are With The Flow, Bandmaster, Primitive Academy and Broadstone Chicago.
http://www.adhorse.co.uk/horseforsale_36221.html
New arrival Urkel has the 'wow factor', says stud owner Graham
10:00 - 16-April-2010
When Graham Heal admits a horse in his yard has the "wow factor" you know he has found something special, and his latest acquisition has created quite a buzz in Westcountry breeding circles.
The horse in question is Urkel, a smart licensed AES stallion, about whom Graham admits he is very excited. "He must be the best-looking horse we've ever had on the yard and he behaves impeccably," said Graham, who is standing Urkel at his Vauterhill Stud, near Umberleigh, Devon.
"He has the looks of a show horse, the movement of a pure dressage horse and he has some of the most sought-after bloodlines in showjumping," he added. "He has a very good technique over his fences with enormous scope."
The 17hh grey showjumped to 1.35m level with Peter Charles before injury forced his early retirement. He was advertised for sale and Graham jumped at the chance to buy him, having studied his breeding and seen his exceptional movement.
He is by Quite Easy. who jumped internationally with Peter Erikkson, and his sire Quidam de Revel brings together the Galoubet and Alme influence with Landgraf and Capitano. His dam is Birthe II, who is out of the celebrated mare U-Capitola, a full sister to Capital I, Capital II and Capital III, the former the all time leading sire in the world. Urkel's first foals were born in 2004 and are already establishing themselves as competition horses with a future.
Graham has also acquired the beautifully-bred ten-year-old Mutazayid a Thoroughbred by Darshaan out of Wijdan (Mr Prospector). "I saw him last autumn and I was surprised by what I saw. He's a lovely easy horse and he will throw event or show types, although with his pedigree and I wouldn't be surprised if he had a few runners too. We saw half a dozen of his foals last year and I was very impressed. They are very nicely put together," said Graham.
"He's a lovely old fashioned type of Thoroughbred with good conformation which makes him suitable for all types of mares. He would be ideal to put quality and pace on a heavier mare or add bone and substance to a lighter mare."
Also standing at Vauterhill are With The Flow, Bandmaster, Primitive Academy and Broadstone Chicago.
http://www.adhorse.co.uk/horseforsale_36221.html
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Luci07
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Just to say that I was able to see a whole number of the Billy Congo youngsters when I walked around the yard and they all seemed to be quite fine so I would not rule him out. I also had a cuddle with Primo Pageant who was a total gentleman!
Simsar
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If you mean at Fred's yard most of them are Billy Be Cool not Congo and you are correct he does throw some lovely event types, but I don't do warmblood sorry
Isn't Primo lovely! We have two in foal to him for next year. Very excited
Eothain
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I don't do warmblood sorry
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Simsar
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Don't you mean ... ... ... .... ........ ........ T*****!
little_critter
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Sorry to resurrect an ancient thread. What does HIS type mean?
My boy is by Weld and I was googling and this thread came up.
My boy is by Weld and I was googling and this thread came up.
Clodagh
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Hunters Improvement Society was a body that graded stallions (TBs) to use over cold blood mares.
I think there were financial incentives to the mare owners? Could be wrong, I was very young when the parents used a couple.
I think there were financial incentives to the mare owners? Could be wrong, I was very young when the parents used a couple.
AdorableAlice
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Hunter Improvement Society, the good days when horses had bone and quality. Proper horses bred to do a job and do it well.
little_critter
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Ah, thank you. He’s a sports horse, but (when I went back through his family tree) about 97% TB but he doesn’t look that TB like. He’s got a hefty bum on him!
Clodagh
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Mum and Dad bred two foals out of his Percheron x tb hunter mare. I remember going to the HIS stallion parades at Newmarket. They used Crown Jewel (he had numbers too) and Thymari. Good days. .
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ihatework
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Old thread but interesting to see some names crop up - the big eventer I just sold was by Mutazayid!!
Some of those names have gone mightily quiet.
Some of those names have gone mightily quiet.
tristar
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saw trifolio at newmarket many years ago, i liked him very much,i thnk he was one i marked as a good mover.
tristar
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saw loads of them all the time the dads and the progeny, had a grade 1 mare who some of my present horses are decended from, we have golden merle, full and happy, right flare, krisinsky.
so many good performers, right flare sired the first british dressage horse of the year,and a lot of very good moving horses
tristar
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hunters improvement society, to improve the breeding of light horses, evolved into light horse breeding, then sport horse breeding gb, i still have the badge somewhere, green with a a rearing stallion, common sight at newmarket stallion show!