Gentle_Warrior
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throwing hands up will show that you are bigger and in charge and send it away as if in herd.
Hitting Horses - Poll
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Tia
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Oh please........
Forget_Me_Not
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Hmm perhaps you haven't been totally surrounded by a herd of 10 exuberant 2 year olds then, LOL!! If you had been then you would not be shocked at people throwing things at them when they start bouncing around you......
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I could surprise you
But horses read body language, giving off the right readable body lanage can pevent. I know youngsters are testing, and will try it on because the haven't yet grasping pecking order and with humans. Horses see moving things. In natural horseman ship session when asking a horse to keep its distance its about moving *flapping yours arms if no rope works well*
Hmm perhaps you haven't been totally surrounded by a herd of 10 exuberant 2 year olds then, LOL!! If you had been then you would not be shocked at people throwing things at them when they start bouncing around you......
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Skhosu
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glory be...perhaps if your answers were not so similar people wouldn't believe you were the same person...
Forget_Me_Not
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glory be...perhaps if your answers were not so similar people wouldn't believe you were the same person...
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glory be...perhaps if your answers were not so similar people wouldn't believe you were the same person...
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suebingham
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Oh -- Assuming this was just a little adolescent acting out and not outright aggression, I'd probably shout, wave my arms, and try to scare the living Bejesus out of them. I don't have any real experience though. Horses that actually scare me, I stay away from -- no use courting disaster IMHO.
Epona and Bob used to fight a little amongst themselves in my presence sometimes -- when they were still babies and jealous that one or the other was getting more attention than they deserved -- but never acted aggressively towards any person. (I think they knew we are frailer and easier to break than they are.) And poor Phoebe was never given the opportunity to be the least bit naughty. One time she decided she'd try nipping me and Epona saw her misbehavior. Epona pinned her ears, snaked her head out, and latched onto one of Phoebe's ears with her teeth HARD. Way worse punishment than I'd ever deliver -- that's for sure.
Epona and Bob used to fight a little amongst themselves in my presence sometimes -- when they were still babies and jealous that one or the other was getting more attention than they deserved -- but never acted aggressively towards any person. (I think they knew we are frailer and easier to break than they are.) And poor Phoebe was never given the opportunity to be the least bit naughty. One time she decided she'd try nipping me and Epona saw her misbehavior. Epona pinned her ears, snaked her head out, and latched onto one of Phoebe's ears with her teeth HARD. Way worse punishment than I'd ever deliver -- that's for sure.
leanne123
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sorry tia but i have been surrounded by 6 broodmares this morning who hardly ever get handled (only when feet, vet ect) and i had no problem feeding those.
there not mine they belong to the yo and soon will have foals at foot too.
can't you put the feed out at safe distances from each other and then call them over, works wonders with my rising 2 year old colts.
i even check them both over while there eating and pick there feet up, but i always have and there used to it.
there not mine they belong to the yo and soon will have foals at foot too.
can't you put the feed out at safe distances from each other and then call them over, works wonders with my rising 2 year old colts.
i even check them both over while there eating and pick there feet up, but i always have and there used to it.
Irishcobs
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Hmm perhaps you haven't been totally surrounded by a herd of 10 exuberant 2 year olds then, LOL!! If you had been then you would not be shocked at people throwing things at them when they start bouncing around you......
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I could surprise you
But horses read body language, giving off the right readable body lanage can pevent. I know youngsters are testing, and will try it on because the haven't yet grasping pecking order and with humans. Horses see moving things. In natural horseman ship session when asking a horse to keep its distance its about moving *flapping yours arms if no rope works well*
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Our babies have a pecking order, I could tell you want order they are too! They all know exactly who is incharge, me! They have never done anything naughty towards me and I quite happily check them all over in the field, no headcollers and they will happily stand and let me do it. Theses are 1, 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
They play together the same as horses do, today infact the two 3 yr olds were playing and I called them, they came over stood to be checked and then went off to play again when I finished.
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Hmm perhaps you haven't been totally surrounded by a herd of 10 exuberant 2 year olds then, LOL!! If you had been then you would not be shocked at people throwing things at them when they start bouncing around you......
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Our babies have a pecking order, I could tell you want order they are too! They all know exactly who is incharge, me! They have never done anything naughty towards me and I quite happily check them all over in the field, no headcollers and they will happily stand and let me do it. Theses are 1, 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
They play together the same as horses do, today infact the two 3 yr olds were playing and I called them, they came over stood to be checked and then went off to play again when I finished.
GTs
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I am thinking of leaving HHO - it is frustrating how dumb some people are!!!
Tia
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You are kidding!! I would NEVER feed my youngsters in the middle of a field LOL!! I would be crushed in an instant, even if they have good manners, the minute the 10 buckets came into that field, their safety of me would be totally out of the window, LOL!!!
As I previously said, I have long fence-lines on all of my fields so there is absolutely no need for me to enter any of the fields at feeding time.
As I previously said, I have long fence-lines on all of my fields so there is absolutely no need for me to enter any of the fields at feeding time.
Forget_Me_Not
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Our babies have a pecking order, I could tell you want order they are too! They all know exactly who is incharge, me! They have never done anything naughty towards me and I quite happily check them all over in the field, no headcollers and they will happily stand and let me do it. Theses are 1, 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
They play together the same as horses do, today infact the two 3 yr olds were playing and I called them, they came over stood to be checked and then went off to play again when I finished.
[/ QUOTE ] You lucky that your youngsters already have accepted pecking order, but youngsters that do not get as much handling are not always so accpeting because they know no better.
Our babies have a pecking order, I could tell you want order they are too! They all know exactly who is incharge, me! They have never done anything naughty towards me and I quite happily check them all over in the field, no headcollers and they will happily stand and let me do it. Theses are 1, 2, 3 and 4 year olds.
They play together the same as horses do, today infact the two 3 yr olds were playing and I called them, they came over stood to be checked and then went off to play again when I finished.
[/ QUOTE ] You lucky that your youngsters already have accepted pecking order, but youngsters that do not get as much handling are not always so accpeting because they know no better.
Tia
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LOL!! See I think I would hit him with the poker!!!
By the way; I couldn't reply to your posts in the locked thread.....but you mentioned EXACTLY what I was going to say, LOL!! Must have been a BIIIIIGGG fence.
By the way; I couldn't reply to your posts in the locked thread.....but you mentioned EXACTLY what I was going to say, LOL!! Must have been a BIIIIIGGG fence.
Weezy
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OMG I am so raising my eyes upwards!
Some people, who have absolutely NO concept of what we are ACTUALLY discussing REALLY should not even begin to comment ARGHHHHH
I once threw a packet of 2 brushing boots at a 17hh horse who reared up FULL up and wanted to play with me in a 12 x 12 stable - what the HELL would you others have done - say "whoa now" FFS, sorry but I value my life!
I have also thrown a bucket at a horse in a field (and no, I wasnt actually feeding and have never done so NOR do I go shaking food at a gate) - it was trying to pin me to a gate whilst I was catching another - I have absolutely NO regret
And I am SO SO glad someone else thinks along the same lines as I do regarding 2 above posters
THought I was going mad!
Some people, who have absolutely NO concept of what we are ACTUALLY discussing REALLY should not even begin to comment ARGHHHHH
I once threw a packet of 2 brushing boots at a 17hh horse who reared up FULL up and wanted to play with me in a 12 x 12 stable - what the HELL would you others have done - say "whoa now" FFS, sorry but I value my life!
I have also thrown a bucket at a horse in a field (and no, I wasnt actually feeding and have never done so NOR do I go shaking food at a gate) - it was trying to pin me to a gate whilst I was catching another - I have absolutely NO regret
And I am SO SO glad someone else thinks along the same lines as I do regarding 2 above posters
Tia
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Oh goodness. Well of course I know who is where in the pecking order of ALL of my herds, LOL!! I run 4 herds. Anyone who doesn't know the pecking order of their horses really shouldn't be around them EVER.
Tia
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Sorry Louise, but I am PMSL!! @ your ("whoa now" FFS) comment
. I was thinking along the same lines......crikey seeing my lot when I am bringing in new round bales of hay and being INSIDE my tractor is worrying enough, LOL!!
Chex
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I throw things, I'd rather not be within kicking distance of a horse if its just got a slap! By chucking a bucket, clump of mud or what ever I'm in less danger of being kicked into next week lol. Having something thrown at it, or even slapped is no where near as painful as a kick from a horse (I was kicked by a month old foal and even that hurt!). I learnt that lesson young when I flung the end of a leadrope at a horse that had gone for me, it turned round and booted me lol. I have no regret for ever hitting a horse, its rarely out of pure temper, more for the sake of my safety.
Forget_Me_Not
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Tia totaly off topic but love your sig
... Is that one your herd?
Tia
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That is one of my herds
. They look so sweet and innocent don't they.
Actually they are......most of the time.
Tia
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I was kicked by my 6 month old foal 13 years ago .... on the leg. I have a huge hole where he kicked me and have muscle damage which has resulted in RLS for the past 4 or 5 years. Thankfully that's the only damage he did and luckily for me he only skiffed me rather than gave me a full blown double barrel.
Patches
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Never been in a large herd situation but I have had Talis and Dinker come hurtling towards me, playing, rearing and bucking. I've also had Patches run head long into me and Tweenie run and turn her bum on me.
I must admit I shout at them to "feck off!!!" while swinging something at them, usually a lead rope or a hoof pick from my pocket. I've also kicked dirt at them. Basically, my main aim is to move quickly in a way to startle them as they tend to shy away from me. I'm pretty good at hurdling the electric fence though if they show me no consideration at all, but that's not happened in a long time.
I wouldn't enter the field to put out piles of hay either. I have long fence lines and I just walk the fence line dropping wads of hay over at intervals. No point in being caught up in the fracas for feed when there's absolutely no need to be.
Would never go to grab the head collar of a pony rearing in front of me. I'd most certainly be stepping away from under it's legs before I'd move towards it. Likewise I wouldn't consider wanting to whallop a horse on the bum that's turning to double barrel me. Self preservation is a must!
I have smacked Patches with a clenched fist..but more a light thump than a left hook (as a flat open hand stings like hell on them) when she's really been playing up. Sneeps her, but works. Don't believe I hurt her, just shock her into behaving. Never repeatedly smacked a horse though.
I must admit I shout at them to "feck off!!!" while swinging something at them, usually a lead rope or a hoof pick from my pocket. I've also kicked dirt at them. Basically, my main aim is to move quickly in a way to startle them as they tend to shy away from me. I'm pretty good at hurdling the electric fence though if they show me no consideration at all, but that's not happened in a long time.
I wouldn't enter the field to put out piles of hay either. I have long fence lines and I just walk the fence line dropping wads of hay over at intervals. No point in being caught up in the fracas for feed when there's absolutely no need to be.
Would never go to grab the head collar of a pony rearing in front of me. I'd most certainly be stepping away from under it's legs before I'd move towards it. Likewise I wouldn't consider wanting to whallop a horse on the bum that's turning to double barrel me. Self preservation is a must!
I have smacked Patches with a clenched fist..but more a light thump than a left hook (as a flat open hand stings like hell on them) when she's really been playing up. Sneeps her, but works. Don't believe I hurt her, just shock her into behaving. Never repeatedly smacked a horse though.
the watcher
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I don't have any experience of big herds of youngsters and haven't owned a yearling for a number of years so a bit out of touch. However in more recent years I have had to go into herds of older quite boisterous horses, including racehorses, and have tried most things, including making myself big and noisy, throwing mud and throwing other things at desperate moments.
madhector
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at one yard i work at i have to feed 2 yearlings, they have to be fed away from the edge of the field due to the shape of it, it used to be a bit of a run the gauntlet situation, but now they know im in charge they are both very well behaved if one decided to rear on me and i was indanger then i would most certainly throw the buckets at it and get out of the way, they are big powerful yearlings who could do alot of damage, hopefully they will continue to respect me and behave themselves
ColleenIsh
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Well its me back again .... hmmm didnt that poll turn out well lol ... surprise surprise .. 0% for * jump out of the field and find something to threaten it with *
And Tia to answer your question I dont know if it was My big green scoop that she used or yo's metal one, I have yet to find that out.
If had of been me when Missy did this (again I wouldnt have been in the field , I normally just put her feed to the side of the fence, I respect that its her time out in the field and she likes to have a run around ) . but saying if it had of been me , I would have shouted something along the lines of " GEETTTT UP OUTTA THAT , OR A SLIGHT FECK OFF YA BITCH LOL " and swung the leadrope at her . and then chased her away .
But I really dont think the yo had the experience or understanding of a youngster .
And Tia to answer your question I dont know if it was My big green scoop that she used or yo's metal one, I have yet to find that out.
If had of been me when Missy did this (again I wouldnt have been in the field , I normally just put her feed to the side of the fence, I respect that its her time out in the field and she likes to have a run around ) . but saying if it had of been me , I would have shouted something along the lines of " GEETTTT UP OUTTA THAT , OR A SLIGHT FECK OFF YA BITCH LOL " and swung the leadrope at her . and then chased her away .
But I really dont think the yo had the experience or understanding of a youngster .
lexiedhb
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I think my response would depend on wether it was my horse, wether someone had asked me to deal with said horse, (and therfore trusted my judgement to do what I thought was best), or it was a horse iI didnt know at all......
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Tis the bunny huggers out again - apparently horses are made of glass and would never dare to be physically aggressive towards one another!
lexiedhb
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Whos a bunny hugger?????????? Horses arent made of glass, and I would be more than happy to belt, albeit with my hand any horse of MINE that reared at me, I'd just be weary of doing it to someone elses, unless as I say they had specifically entrusted me to look after it, ie in the case of full liveries etc.
ColleenIsh
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Tis the bunny huggers out again - apparently horses are made of glass and would never dare to be physically aggressive towards one another!
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whos that aimed at ?
Tis the bunny huggers out again - apparently horses are made of glass and would never dare to be physically aggressive towards one another!
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whos that aimed at ?
Hollyhorse
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I would run towards it clapping my hands so it gets a fright without being hit - hopefully will discourage the bad behaviour and mean he gives you more space next time!
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xspiralx
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Aimed at any of the people in this post who have insisted one should never ever hit a horse because body language will do in all cases.
Weezy
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Spiral was replying and agreeing with what I said (you can see who a poster is replyng to as it says Re: XXXXXXXX next to the title of the thread on each post)