Hob-day/Tie back ?

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Hello all,

When I bought my 15.2 gelding I was told that he did have a 'Slight wind problem' but would be okay 4 what I wanted to do (As he was my first horse) and then when i wanted to step up a level, he could have an operation and he would be great!

However, (being young, nieve & overly trusting) I decided to buy him and then have him scoped!
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Was told by the vet that his wind was in a horrific condition & was one of the worst cases he had ever seen! Not only was both larynx partilly paralized, but his throat also collapses during exhalation
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vet said he could preform a hob-day but there is no operation at present that can cure a collapsing throat. Even when he is at the peak of his fittness he struggles & constantlly have to pull up until he catches a breath, So I will never be able to compete him. He has been off most of winter and today when i rode, he really was roaring at a walk! ive never heard him so bad before. - Is it possible that their wind can get worse?

Has anyone ever heard of a horse with a similar condition?
Whats the difference in hobday & tieback? Surely there is something they can do for a collapsing throat?...x
 
my ex racer has had a wind op and doesn't have too many issues but I have to keep him fit so everything works properly - if he has had a few days off he will cough like he is trying to clear his throat and hard feed will appear out of his nose. I can't feed him sugar beet either as even when fit this just runs straight out his nose
 
My horse is hobdayed. If unfit she makes an awful noise at canter. She competes at pre-novice and I choose where she runs, as she makes more noise when exerting herself uphill. I aim to keep her extra fit, this was the advice of my vet. Last year she completed 12 pre-novices comfortably, she does however make quite a horrific noise at times on the xc and I am aware of people staring in horror!! The tie back is a more extensive operation and as far as I am aware carries more risks of choking (with food running down windpipe etc), I had vaguely considered having an up-grade to a tie back (as I won't take my mare further than novice cos of the roaring), but having looked into it, I feel the risks are too great.
 
My horse started making a noise after strangles damaged his left larynx. He had the tie back (literally tying the affected larynx open) & the hobday. What we hadn't realised was that his swollowing nerve was also damaged, so he didn't adapt to having his airway open.

He got pnuemonia as food was going down his wind pipe. Plus food & water used to aspirate down his nose (not nice)
I was given a choice of having him put down or reversing the tie back (the hobday can't be reversed as you are removing tissue) I went for the later against all advice as it had never been done before in a horse that had returned to work.
Good decision as he is now back dressaging & SJ (The only thing he'll prob not do is event)

In your case I'd be wary of the tieback due to the collapsing throat. It might mean you have similar problems to me. However I would imagine the hobday might help. I'd talk it over with your vet. If you need a 2nd opinion, I'd try Geoff Lane in Bristol as he did my boy. He works a lot at Newmarket with the racehorses & is considered to one of the top vets for this op.

Good luck.
 
my chap had a tie back and hobday (i know im poss quite lucky) but never had any problems with it at all, hes as he would be if he were 'normal', infact once he had it done his condition improved, he was happier in himself and his work ect,( he does have to be fed from the ground eg hay feed ect)! If that was your horses only problem then from my experience i would do it again if i had to, but with the added complication of the throat, i dont think it would change anything greatly imo ????? i have to say its very unlucky to have both sides paralized 'and' the throat!
 
A tie-back is where one of the cartilage bits of the larynx is stitched to another one, to open up the airway. A hobday is where part of the vocal chord is removed to make the airway bigger (often done with a laser nowadays).

(Re-posted as I didn't realise my mum was signed in!)
 
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