Home needed for two TB geldings!

What a sad thread. My friend has taken on a tb mare that was going for meat after going from home to home as she was a brood mare and never backed. She cant afford her as she is also a pensioner but this mare is nice to handle.
I just dont know the answer for these poor horses and cant imagine the state of their feet and wonder what will happen if they get ill.
It is so sad some of these charities are so rich but they dont seem to be able to help genuine cases like this one.
They are lucky to have found caring people like you and the yard owner.
 
caramel said:
what about the website horses 4 homes? They seem pretty good, they look to rehome.
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Discussing that with the owner in the morning as I was told about it by another charity. Thank you :-)

carthorse said:
What a sad thread. My friend has taken on a tb mare that was going for meat after going from home to home as she was a brood mare and never backed. She cant afford her as she is also a pensioner but this mare is nice to handle.
I just dont know the answer for these poor horses and cant imagine the state of their feet and wonder what will happen if they get ill.
It is so sad some of these charities are so rich but they dont seem to be able to help genuine cases like this one.
They are lucky to have found caring people like you and the yard owner.
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Well, you know what, their feet are not as bad as they could be. One has a vertical crack that goes right up to the coronet band, but has stopped just short of serious damage, It has been like it since I moved to the yard and has never got any worse.

They are a teeny bit unsound when they start galloping around, but that is hardly surprising and they are perfectly sound when trotted up so not that bad.

They are kind of self trimming. Hard to explain, we never see bits of toe broken or hanging off, but their feet, whilst yes, they need doing before these horses do any work are actually not in really bad shape. They are what I would class as a little overgrown and splayed, but I have seen far worse over the years, even at the hands of farriers, so they are not too bad.

Yes, the whole situation is sad. If I could buy a couple of dozen acres, I would have them as oversized pets and let them frolic the rest of their days away in big grassy fields, but alas...I do not have that option :-(
 
Amymay how exactly are you helping right now? I've read most of this thread and all you seem to be doing is trying to bait the OP. She Is maybe holding back information to protect this poor elderly man's dignity on a public forum. I for one wouldn't want others talking about my finances on a public forum.

OP I hope something gets sorted for this man and his horses :) having been in a similar situ I can empathise.
 
MissMincePie&Brandy said:
I was going to suggest that people like myself, sometimes need a TB type as a companion rather than the typical little good doer. I have a beloved old TB who I needed a companion for recently, and it was important to me that it was a horse that would strive on the same rich grazing and plenty of hay that my TB has, to avoid having to separate the companion for fear of it getting lami, etc. However (I've found him a suitable friend now), even though I would have offered extremely good care, I wouldn't have done a lot more (apart from regular feet trims, picking out, and an annual teeth check) tbh than what it sounds like the owner is already doing.

I would worry that by selling them on, at their age and unsuitable for any immediate use, they would be subject to a far more precarious and uncertain future than they are in now, and if you could ask them, they would probably want to stay safe and well fed in the environment they're in
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I agree with this. They are stressy, no longer young TBs. To move them now would cause them far more grief and trauma than to leave them in familiar surroundings. I have an elderly TB who is stressy in the stable. He is retired now, but is actually a bit calmer these days than he was when he was in work.
 
Rueysmum said:
I agree with this. They are stressy, no longer young TBs. To move them now would cause them far more grief and trauma than to leave them in familiar surroundings. I have an elderly TB who is stressy in the stable. He is retired now, but is actually a bit calmer these days than he was when he was in work.
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I have at no point said they would be sold on. They will not. Nobody wants to make any money off this.

It is a very sad situation and I have said myself a number of times through this thread that I agree how stressful it would be and that I would probably PTS if the choice was mine, but it is not. I am simple doing what I have been asked and trying to find a better future for these boys.

I can't write the whole history, but I think I have been quite detailed.

Short term stress is preferable to long term development into a serious welfare case. Would myself and the YO let it get that far? No...we would, as we already do, step in and help, but the longer we do this, the longer the owner will be putting his own health at risk as he is an incredibly proud man. He will feed his animals before himself and I will not stand by and let that happen now that he has asked for help.

Of course, in an ideal world, I would find a sharer to keep them at the same yard. Unfortunately, that is no more certain a future than they already have as people come and go, as history has proven with these boys.

I appreciate the honesty in the more negative posts, but if you read all of mine carefully, you will see that I have already considered everything, share many of your views and so repeating them is not helpful. If you can't be helpful, why post just for the sake of it? That's a genuine question. I honestly don't understand posting for the sake of saying something that is of no use.
 
amymay said:
Top tip - read the whole thread.......:rolleyes:
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Apart from this page I read the whole thread :rolleyes:

Lots of great suggestions made on it, just not by you :rolleyes: I dont get what you get out of forums by being this way? Is it beneath you to just help people and not look for nastiness in every thread??

There are a few just like you who couldnt help people to save themselves and its sad as you seem to have a fair bit of knowledge, might be nicer to share it rather than be nasty.
 
Black Beastie said:
Apart from this page I read the whole thread :rolleyes:

Lots of great suggestions made on it, just not by you :rolleyes: I dont get what you get out of forums by being this way? Is it beneath you to just help people and not look for nastiness in every thread??

There are a few just like you who couldnt help people to save themselves and its sad as you seem to have a fair bit of knowledge, might be nicer to share it rather than be nasty.
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My first post - was suggesting contacting a charity, immediately followed by yours saying the same.

If you want to do something useful for the OP, why not contact them by PM and see what you can do to help this sad situation - rather than just bitch about me and hijacking a rather useful thread.
 
I would def advertise for local help. If I were in wiltshire I would be offering my time with these boysto hekp you continue to improve them. i'm currently horseless due to finances myself but could stretch to the odd trim and some vaccinations.

There must be someone like me local. Can you post an add on local websites, contact riding clubs etc to see if there is someone suitable nearby?
 
Tbf to amymay the opening op did make org sound like the poor bloke was being pushed out of owning his horses. It's easy to read posts a different way than they are meant and users can only post from how they have taken the information given.

OP gave you thought about local colleges, they might be willing to put the work into them if they got two ridden horses out of it?
 
So whats wrong with PTS?
These are 2 unbacked TBs , and backing to be safe rides is going to take much time and professional expertise ie costly- more cost than what they re worth,probably. Dont expect professionals to take on horses to work with without expecting to pay full remuneration!
And at the end of it you ve 2 green TBs , in a recession where many many horses cant find a home, let alone ones with a questional place in the ridden world.
Really, not every horse can be saved , and no wonder the charitys arent keen to be involved. This is not an extreme case - no neglect ,abuse etc , and charities cant be expected to take on every horse that ,quite frankly, is worthless. Sad situation , but go to any auction , theres hundreds of hosses out therethat could be saved , or will not live a full lifespan.
As has been said many times on other threads when similar stories crop up , theres much worse fates for these horses than being PTS ...
 
cornbrodolly said:
So whats wrong with PTS?
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I would imagine for the owner - everything.


As has been said many times on other threads when similar stories crop up , theres much worse fates for these horses than being PTS ...
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Indeed there are, we would all agree with you. But at this point the owner is looking to re-home, which is not entirely unreasonable. And in an ideal world what we would all look to do if similar situations existed in our own lives.......
 
Just a note of encouragement! You seem to have opened up a lot of avenues and there have been some great ideas from lots of us. I started off with Kelly Marks but are there other IH or similar? who would look at the challenge of backing horses like this as an excellent case study/PR? I look forward to some positive news!
 
Blood bank is a great idea.

OP please do some research on blood banks, its sounds like a good option for these 2 boys, both are big enough and young enough to go, they can stay together and live with a herd in a very natural enviroment. They wouldn't be handled much, but once a week (I think) they are rounded up and have some blood taken and then released. They also cannot sell them, so when the time comes they will be PTS there.

MrsB on here sent her lad Boris there so perhaps might be worth speaking to her as I'm sure she will be happy to tell you Boris's story and give you some more info :)
 
cornbrodolly said:
So whats wrong with PTS?
These are 2 unbacked TBs , and backing to be safe rides is going to take much time and professional expertise ie costly- more cost than what they re worth,probably. Dont expect professionals to take on horses to work with without expecting to pay full remuneration!
And at the end of it you ve 2 green TBs , in a recession where many many horses cant find a home, let alone ones with a questional place in the ridden world.
Really, not every horse can be saved , and no wonder the charitys arent keen to be involved. This is not an extreme case - no neglect ,abuse etc , and charities cant be expected to take on every horse that ,quite frankly, is worthless. Sad situation , but go to any auction , theres hundreds of hosses out therethat could be saved , or will not live a full lifespan.
As has been said many times on other threads when similar stories crop up , theres much worse fates for these horses than being PTS ...
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There is nothing in this post that I haven't covered already, or agree with myself. Try not to make assumptions. Every charity I have spoken to has wanted to take them, they just can't.

These horses cannot be PTS. If the owner thinks that is likely to happen, he will move them and then they really will become a welfare case. I will not do that to him or the horses.
 
Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread. I can't remember who was chastising amymay, but I don't think she has said/done anything wrong and has been quite helpful. Usually things can just be taken out of context, so no need to get into a debate about it. :-)

Anyway, I have a small local charity that might be willing to take them on in a few weeks time, so fingers crossed the will work out.

They are willing to work with them and I have offered to continue my work with them free of charge to see if they could ever be loaned out as light hacks, but if they cannot, they can just live out their days in lovely big fields.

I will hear back in a few days, but they have said that they will take them...just can't do it straight away and we can work with that.

Thank you again.
 
patterdale said:
What's wrong with the owner just keeping the horses as they are and them carrying on being pets?

I'm sure the horses don't give a rats ass if they are ridden or not.
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What's wrong with reading a thread before posting in it?

Thank you for your contribution, but if you had read even 10% of my posts, you would know that keeping them is not an option, unless you want to see an elderly man homeless and starved while he struggles to pay for them.
 
_GG_ said:
Thank you to everyone that has contributed to this thread. I can't remember who was chastising amymay, but I don't think she has said/done anything wrong and has been quite helpful. Usually things can just be taken out of context, so no need to get into a debate about it. :-)

Anyway, I have a small local charity that might be willing to take them on in a few weeks time, so fingers crossed the will work out.

They are willing to work with them and I have offered to continue my work with them free of charge to see if they could ever be loaned out as light hacks, but if they cannot, they can just live out their days in lovely big fields.

I will hear back in a few days, but they have said that they will take them...just can't do it straight away and we can work with that.

Thank you again.
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fingers crossed this works out GG, sounds ideal:) let me know how it goes please.
 
patterdale said:
Just read the rest of the thread - broke my own rule of not reading the whole thing before posting :D
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We've all done it ;-)

patterdale said:
Ps - well done you :)
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Thank you...I am so relieved just to have some positive news to give the owner tonight, he has been asking every 30 minutes even when I have been on the yard with him and not made or received any phone calls.
 
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