Homeopathic mixed pollen ?

[Lauren1993]

Homeopathic mixed pollen… has anyone tried it ?

My mare has started to to flick her head when we’ve been riding in the fields (around the roads in the village she’s fine) if it’s windy or we trot or canter she’s worse, sneezes, rubs her muzzle on her legs.
So I’m assuming it is pollen that is annoying her !
Have a nose net on order & antihistamines started to be given but I’ve read a small amount of info about Homeopathic mixed pollen tablets.

Has anyone else used for a seasonal pollen allergy ?
Thanks.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I’ve not no sorry but have tried Nostril vet with mine and I’m pretty convinced it helped.

 

[HopOnTrot]

Homeopathy is sugar and water.
It won’t work.

Antihistamines are great, I use Cetrezine I think the dosage is 0.2-0.4mg per KG of body weight but check with your vet. I don’t know the dosage of other hayfever medication.

 

[smolmaus]

Homeopathy is sugar and water.
It won’t work.

Antihistamines are great, I use Cetrezine I think the dosage is 0.2-0.4mg per KG of body weight but check with your vet. I don’t know the dosage of other hayfever medication.

Now now, there is still some pollen in there, 1 part in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (maybe that's 60 zeros, I am not double checking)

Homeopathy can "work" on humans as the placebo effect is a wonderful thing, but it will not do anything for a horse.

 

[MuddyMonster]

I would speak to someone like Dorothy McCreadie (Homeopathy for Horses on FB) or possibly Hilton Herbs for more advice on your specific situation.

In my experience, homeopathy can be very helpful in some cases.

 

[ozpoz]

I have had good results with it. I don’t care if it is “only” placebo if it works, it works.
Increasingly now we are hearing about the importance of intention
with horses, and how they are very good at understanding and reading intention.

 

[smolmaus]

I have had good results with it. I don’t care if it is “only” placebo if it works, it works.
Increasingly now we are hearing about the importance of intention
with horses, and how they are very good at understanding and reading intention.

If you can just "intention" your horse out of having a physical reaction to pollen, why do you need the over-priced sugar pills?

 

[FieldOrnaments]

Now now, there is still some pollen in there, 1 part in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (maybe that's 60 zeros, I am not double checking)

Homeopathy can "work" on humans as the placebo effect is a wonderful thing, but it will not do anything for a horse.

Placebo effect in veterinary medicine is a thing too, it has been seen on owner-reported symptoms of head shaking with a 'supplement' (placebo) but of course, no one could ask the horses if they actually felt better... homeopathy is a quack discipline. Though this thread has got me wondering if the hay fever remedy of consuming local honey would have an effect in animals.

 

[nutjob]

A nosenet made a major improvement to my headshaking horse. He got slowly worse and need a net over his full face later in life. Nostril vet made him worse if anything, herbal remedies made no difference, neither did antihistamines but I think his was mainly triggered by visual things like bright sunlight, and tiny insects and petals floating in the air.

Though this thread has got me wondering if the hay fever remedy of consuming local honey would have an effect in animals.

I've seen it recommended. I didn't know there was a bee keeper in my village while I still had my horse or else I would have given it a go. I don't believe in homeopathy but if it's the intention that's important couldn't you just use tap water dispensed out of one of those medical type dropper bottles?

 

[blitznbobs]

Now now, there is still some pollen in there, 1 part in 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 (maybe that's 60 zeros, I am not double checking)

Homeopathy can "work" on humans as the placebo effect is a wonderful thing, but it will not do anything for a horse.

Placebo works on pets too … plenty of studies on this

 

[smolmaus]

Placebo works on pets too … plenty of studies on this

With controls for whether changes in the animal are due to changes in behaviour or perceptions of the caregivers? The placebo is still working on the human in this equation. No pet can comprehend "this is supposed to help me", the true placebo effect can not exist in an animal.

If you want to buy sugar pills to placebo yourself into believing there is an improvement in your animal, then feel free but this can't ethically replace actual medical care for your pets.

 

[blitznbobs]

With controls for whether changes in the animal are due to changes in behaviour or perceptions of the caregivers? The placebo is still working on the human in this equation. No pet can comprehend "this is supposed to help me", the true placebo effect can not exist in an animal.

If you want to buy sugar pills to placebo yourself into believing there is an improvement in your animal, then feel free but this can't ethically replace actual medical care for your pets.

I don’t use placebo — except on myself occasionally and usually in the shape of smarties… but only the orange ones work … the rest I just eat cos I like smarties…

Placebo and Norcebo are fascinating tho… have taken part in many human experiments with placebo and the results can be astonishing.



On the honey thing for allergies this is more placebo than anything… to do it properly you need honey from less than 3 miles away and from the previous year collected monthly. Then you take aprils honey in March, mays honey in April, etc etc … not many people do this so essentially the effect will be minimal if any.