Honest opinions on this colt please

I'm well impressed by the highland that moves like that!

OP I doubt I could afford one leg ;) His dam looks lovely. If you like him I would perhaps pick the brains of those used to elite warmblood youngstock ;). Or just get him a feather boa :D
 
OP any chance of you watching him in the field for a while and seeing his paces when he's feeling relaxed .
Perhaps just after he's turned out or moved in to strange field with a couple of friends .
But if you buy him I wish you a lovely journey with him .
 
Even though he was being made to move round, he was really relaxed about it and walked like a plod back to his stable. He really is a dope on a rope for such a young colt!
 
Goldenstar said:
OP any chance of you watching him in the field for a while and seeing his paces when he's feeling relaxed .
Perhaps just after he's turned out or moved in to strange field with a couple of friends .
But if you buy him I wish you a lovely journey with him .
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I saw him in the field and he moves the same :)
 
commented on FB but he really is very slow behind and also out behind and on his forehand. There is no natural uphill-ness really.

Without being rude, some people are probably mistaking the air time of the slow trot for cadence, which it is not. He isnt engaged at all (even relative to being a total baby).

100% you can find something nicer.
 
I didn't respond yesterday as everyone else seemed to woo this young horse but I agree with the couple of posters who aren't keen. I see the same things they see and he'd not be for me sorry. You clearly like him OP and at the end of the day that's all that matters.
 
I can see what some say about the upwards push behind.

That said, there is dressage and then there is dressage! I don't know you OP or what your aims are but there are big differences between a potential GP horse and a nice advanced horse.

If the horse makes you smile and heart flutter then go for it. It's a long expensive and emotional path, far better to start it with a horse you love. And if you have been looking for over a year then you have to take that leap of faith at some point!
 
I do like him, really do. But this is the reason I posted the video, instead of just buying him. I was never happy with his hindend, but couldn't put my finger on what was wrong. I'm glad I posted the video, I think it has put me off him :(

Please take a look at this next colt Diamond Hit x Lauries Crusador xx 08/04/2013. His movement was a lot more impressive in person, but he was very tense in the arena.

[video=youtube;bqHZYAIo_ew]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqHZYAIo_ew&list=UUfCBlOcGRfgVWC0qnP1a2aQ[/video]
 
Sorry to inundate you with videos; but this colt is another one I really like.

[video=youtube;BCO7rUYM-EA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCO7rUYM-EA[/video]
 
What have you done dressage wise to date and what are your aspirations for whatever you buy?

The ampere is possibly a 'better' one than the furstenball, but without knowing you it doesn't necessarily mean the furstenball is the wrong choice
 
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ihatework said:
What have you done dressage wise to date and what are your aspirations for whatever you buy?

The ampere is possibly a 'better' one than the furstenball, but without knowing you it doesn't necessarily mean the furstenball is the wrong choice
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I was originally jumping when I first bought my Belgian WB, but a year into owning him we went down the dressage route. I'd say he was a good novice horse when I bought him; since then we progressed to working more advanced - canter piris, started 3x's and the usual lateral, but unfortunately age and arthritis has stopped our work. I do not have GP aspirations, but would like to get as far as I could.
 
I prefer the last one even though it was a short video he was class, the first colts Dam reminded me so much of my mare it made me cry, I have had to retire her recently and it has broken my heart to think I will never ride her again:(

I think you have to go with your gut feeling, buying yearlings is a gamble as its so hard to see how they will turn out, keep us updated on anymore you have seen I have really enjoyed the videos keep em coming.
 
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I prefer the last one even though it was a short video he was class, the first colts Dam reminded me so much of my mare it made me cry, I have had to retire her recently and it has broken my heart to think I will never ride her again:(

I think you have to go with your gut feeling, buying yearlings is a gamble as its so hard to see how they will turn out, keep us updated on anymore you have seen I have really enjoyed the videos keep em coming.
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I'm sorry to hear that :( I know the feeling.
 
will watch vids on phone when i can find some 3g!

buying anything under age of 3 is a hard one to call-when we went to see Goofy all you could say was that he had 2 eyes and 4 legs and everything faced the right way! He cantered downhill in absolute slop in perfect balance doing clean changes each time he changed direction and his trot showed a lot of gears-he can passage and he can extend and whilst he's probably not the next Valegro, he does keep his arse tucked under him at all times.

the first vid showed a horse with NO gears. Looking forward to watching others :)
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
will watch vids on phone when i can find some 3g!

buying anything under age of 3 is a hard one to call-when we went to see Goofy all you could say was that he had 2 eyes and 4 legs and everything faced the right way! He cantered downhill in absolute slop in perfect balance doing clean changes each time he changed direction and his trot showed a lot of gears-he can passage and he can extend and whilst he's probably not the next Valegro, he does keep his arse tucked under him at all times.

the first vid showed a horse with NO gears. Looking forward to watching others :)
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The Germans says look at a foal 3days old, 3 weeks, 3 months and 3 years - any other time don't bother!
 
I prefer the last one, dam and sire are up hill his back end is under him and not as thick through the gullet, I prefer a bit more bone myself but that does not detract from a very nice colt, the second one is nice too and a nice amount of bone the third one only pips him to the post due to being so under himself behind
neither the second or third one have the exceptionally long cannon bones the first one has-just saying
 
I did like the first one, although he does leave his hocks out behind. May get better when he is less gangly. Really like the last one, very smart. Have you seen the canter and walk of the one above? How old is he in the video. Think it really is an individual thing and temperament would play a huge part in the decision for me.
 
I like the second one the best. He is more compact. A little power house. I did not dislike the way the first colt used his hind legs as I think at his age he is just really pushing off with them. I was slightly concerned about his canter (hence the 'Bambi' comment), but my filly does that a lot and still has a beautiful natural canter. But the second colt really appealed to me. I like the way he moved. Not so immediately impressive, but looked like he would be very trainable. The third one looked far too spindly to me.
 
Out of the two yearlings I much prefer the second one. The Ampere foal is quite lovely however do remember he is a foal, and foals tend to show much more expression compared to yearlings. He is also presented clean and smartly turned out, and in a more professional environment which tends to give a better overall impression. Out of the 3 I know which one I'd go for (based on the videos) but buying any horse is always a very personal decision.
 
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I like the second one the best. He is more compact. A little power house. I did not dislike the way the first colt used his hind legs as I think at his age he is just really pushing off with them. I was slightly concerned about his canter (hence the 'Bambi' comment), but my filly does that a lot and still has a beautiful natural canter. But the second colt really appealed to me. I like the way he moved. Not so immediately impressive, but looked like he would be very trainable. The third one looked far too spindly to me.
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I do like them all, the 1st concerns me with how wide and slow he is behind - he looks like 2 different horses. The second was lovely and he had a cracking walk and looks trainable with work. I like the 3rd a lot, he's the cheapest of the 3 and in pictures he looks a lot more substantial.


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I did like the first one, although he does leave his hocks out behind. May get better when he is less gangly. Really like the last one, very smart. Have you seen the canter and walk of the one above? How old is he in the video. Think it really is an individual thing and temperament would play a huge part in the decision for me.
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Unfortunately I haven't seen his walk or canter, but I've asked for more videos.


twiggy2 said:
I prefer the last one, dam and sire are up hill his back end is under him and not as thick through the gullet, I prefer a bit more bone myself but that does not detract from a very nice colt, the second one is nice too and a nice amount of bone the third one only pips him to the post due to being so under himself behind
neither the second or third one have the exceptionally long cannon bones the first one has-just saying
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It's really hard to pick the good and bad points between all 3 of them!


I'm not looking for the next Valegro or anything of similar caliber; but I want a good trainable horse that's brave and has a sensible head although I don't mind a bit of quirkiness, must have 3 good paces, but with all that I want a horse that can be a 'friend' too. *Tears hair out*
 
If I was buying I would go for the Diamond Hit colt purely based on the videos. I liked his frame, balance and the way we used his hind leg I liked the Ampere foal but he was a bit too slow behind for my preference. As I commented before the first yearling pushed out behind which for me is a big no-no (having spent a couple of very informative days looking at foals with a futurity judge).
 
Very interesting what people are saying about pushing out behind. You learn something new every day! I had always thought it looked very powerful, even though I realised it could cause problems when asking them to 'sit' later on in their training, I did not realise it was such a 'no, no'. Can I ask people in the know whether it could be a sign of unsoundness? Only I am considering such a youngster myself.
 
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Very interesting what people are saying about pushing out behind. You learn something new every day! I had always thought it looked very powerful, even though I realised it could cause problems when asking them to 'sit' later on in their training, I did not realise it was such a 'no, no'. Can I ask people in the know whether it could be a sign of unsoundness? Only I am considering such a youngster myself.
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I don't consider it a sign of unsoundness but 'trailing' hocks are not desirable in a potential dressage horse as when you get down to training them they often find it hard to sit and lighten the forehand.
 
eggs said:
I don't consider it a sign of unsoundness but 'trailing' hocks are not desirable in a potential dressage horse as when you get down to training them they often find it hard to sit and lighten the forehand.
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Thanks. No, if I took him on he would be used for hacking eventually for my husband. He's too big for me to attempt dressage with. I like much smaller compact horses.
 
Second one all the way. He uses himself very well and has a good hind leg action with a great rhythm even though he is a bit up behind. He looks like he will work well and stay sound.
 
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