Horrible behaviour from 2 yr old stallion

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My normally well behaved 2 yr old stallion has transformed into a total pig, because of the arrival of Ziggy, a lovely 12hh pony MARE!!!! They are in seperate fields and he cant get near her, but I cant handle him at all since she arrived. I am fairly compenant at handling horses, and am not normally phased, but after he broke the fence this morning, trying to get into her field, and when i tried to catch him, he reared right infront of me and kicked me into the shoulder, i slapped him and he ran back into his field, I ran to turn the fence on b4 he charged it again. He has spent the day running up and down the field but is afraid of electricity. At least he's afraid of something!!! When is the soonest I can have him castrated, as I will have to send away the pony until he's castrated, and kids will be devestated. Or any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for listening!!!
 
He can be castrated now, unless either or both of his testicles havnt dropped. But they should both be there at 2
 
I would ideally have him castrated in Autumn although now seems more appropriate in his case! But please bare in mind that having his nuts chopped will not stop his hormones instantly! (It can take a long time, especially if they already show a lot of interest as yours has).

Did you plan on keeping him entire?

If you can, keep him as far away from this mare as possible..
 
Aw, bless him, he is feeling his hormones! If you can stable him you can have him cut any time, they don't like doing it in summer because of the flies causing infection but stabling will get around this. We have 3 3yo stallions, all have covered, 2 are lovely to handle all the time but one is a bit mare obsessed and can be a bit bolshy when the mares are near, he also runs up and down the fence lines if he can see them. Sadly the bolshy one will probably be cut and he is looking to be the best of the 3, with looks and movement to die for!
 
pastie2 said:
What on earth do you expect from a colt, I doubt that you should be in charge of an entire at all. Get the bleddy thing gelded ASAP.
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Subtle Pastie, subtle. :( :rolleyes:

Fitzaud realises that there is a solution and was simply asking a question. I expect, once, in the dim and distant past you didn't know the answer to it either, or were you born perfect? ;)
 
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Enfys said:
Subtle Pastie, subtle. :( :rolleyes:

Fitzaud realises that there is a solution and was simply asking a question. I expect, once, in the dim and distant past you didn't know the answer to it either, or were you born perfect? ;)
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Enfys - try the phrase: "Chill, Pastie, Hun"...

*legs it* :D
 
pastie2 said:
No Enfys, not born perfect, perfection came with a huge amount of work!!
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Precisely, not everyone has been working at it as long as you obviously have :) Would it really hurt to be a little more gracious when imparting your shining gems of wisdom? I still bet you didn't know the answer to the original question once upon a time though ;)
 
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Mrs B said:
Enfys - try the phrase: "Chill, Pastie, Hun"...

*legs it* :D
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:D LMAO. I can't, I simply can't bring myself to do it.

I still cannot decide whether pastie is pronounced pass-tee or pace-tee, I always hear it in my head as pace-tee which makes me think of a pallid office worker.
 
pastie2 said:
What on earth do you expect from a colt, I doubt that you should be in charge of an entire at all. Get the bleddy thing gelded ASAP.
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I would not expect it from all colts!.. and quite an unfair answer...

Ive got a stallion (my first) thats 5 next month, hes home bred and can have his moments, he lives out 24/7 with my 2 mares next door to his paddock (one is his mum) he can touch them 'just' hes also got the 3 yearlings next door too and my pony,

At my old house he escaped a few times, breaking through the wooden fencing, but was good to catch, he was obsessed with a mare I had, but only her.. but it was not worth gelding him over.. and he is always better behaved for me than anyone else.. but hes not nasty or evil.. (hes in my profile photo)

Ive since moved and sold that mare, and hes much more chilled, he still sceams for ''his'' mares if I ride them out, and canters round, but hes no trouble, dont think I will ever have him gelded.. everyone loves him and most cant believe hes entire,

now my other colt I had, also home bred.. was totaly different, once he had covered a mare, he became a nightmare, smashing through fencing, and then hard to catch, a pig to handle, stroppy, but never nasty... I did have him gelded aged 3 , it was the middle of summer (july and hot here) and within 2-3 months he was a darling... hes in the UK now, as my daughter moved back and wanted him there...
 
I have to lean towards Pastie's way of thinking TBH. You just shouldn't take on the entire male of any species if you don't know anything about them. This colt should probably have been gelded 12 months ago provided everything was where nature had intended. We had a 13 month old colt dumped in a field of mostly mares (mine being one of them) without any consultation with us early last summer with the excuse being he would be gelded in the autumn/winter. Of course he would be 18 months old by that time, but hey, its no problem is it? Needless to say he mounted at least one but to the best of our knowledge nothing came of it and no-one got hurt. But then, we only SAW him mount one. God knows what he was up to when our backs were turned. We still had to work hard to have him put in another field afterwards though, because the people that mattered didn't seem to know it takes 6 weeks or so for them to no longer be fertile.
 
I have had him since he was weaned, and the only reason he isnt castrated already, was that his testicles hadn't dropped, which has only happened recently. I'm not a complete twit, I normally castrate as yearlings, I have no use for a stallion, there are enough unwanted horses in the country, without breeding more!!!
 
Is July, with all the flies, really a good time to castrate a colt?

I suppose it could be done, but surely the sensible thing is to board the mare somewhere else until the autumn and not take the risk of a fly born infection?
 
You can geld at any age, and any time of the year. If you don't want to risk infection then get the pony gelded at the vets and a general, it take away the infection, and fly part, simple
 
My vets are more relaxed about castrating during the warmer months, due to the improved fly repellents available today. Stabling will help keep him away from flies, but a colt is better to be out post castration to keep the swelling down.

He needs to be kept away from mares for a minimum of 6 weeks after castration, and ideally longer. He will continue to behave as a stallion for a long time. Global Herbs Rig Calm is very helpful.

All things considered, in your shoes, I would put the mare on livery or with friends for a few months. Your colt will settle down again, and plan to castrate him in September.
 
bugbee717 said:
You can geld at any age, and any time of the year. If you don't want to risk infection then get the pony gelded at the vets and a general, it take away the infection, and fly part, simple
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I'd get vets out to see if they can geld him asap as your safety is the most important thing when handling him, my youngster was gelded at a year old as he got very very colty, he had to be gelded at an equine hospital though (closed castration) as one hadn't dropped- was very expensive , but he had no complications after at all.
 
I would geld him now, had mine done in July and the flies can be awful here in Spain at that time of year, but we used plenty of fly spray, kept him in for 3 days, hosed the area twice a day, and he was fine...(he was 3 at the time)
 
pastie2 said:
What on earth do you expect from a colt, I doubt that you should be in charge of an entire at all. Get the bleddy thing gelded ASAP.
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Your comment is totally uncalled for! There is no need to insult someone because their colts hormones went on overdrive.

There are some colts and stallions who behave beautifully - my friends stallion grazes opposite her mares and while he chats them up vocally he doesn't get stroppy. Some just misbehave and get over excited.
 
fatpiggy said:
I have to lean towards Pastie's way of thinking TBH. You just shouldn't take on the entire male of any species if you don't know anything about them. This colt should probably have been gelded 12 months ago provided everything was where nature had intended. We had a 13 month old colt dumped in a field of mostly mares (mine being one of them) without any consultation with us early last summer with the excuse being he would be gelded in the autumn/winter. Of course he would be 18 months old by that time, but hey, its no problem is it? Needless to say he mounted at least one but to the best of our knowledge nothing came of it and no-one got hurt. But then, we only SAW him mount one. God knows what he was up to when our backs were turned. We still had to work hard to have him put in another field afterwards though, because the people that mattered didn't seem to know it takes 6 weeks or so for them to no longer be fertile.
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Yeah but how many take on an entire form of the human variety without any experience, men are no different! Have you all castrated your partners????? lol Spect some of you have!
 
Interesting comments about the age to castrate. Is there an "ought to castrate at..." age or does it "all depend"? My vet strongly advised me not to castrate an Anglo-Arab colt at 12 months saying he was a lovely looking boy and would get some shape if I left him another year, which was done. He was no bother and after he was sold I got calls wanting to know if I'd any more of the same breeding.

Some stallions are as quiet as mice and easy to handle. Mine is taken out from his mares, groomed up and taken to a show where everyone is convinced he's a gelding, then taken home and popped back with the girls and we never have any problems. He was Ridden Highland Champion at the local county show last year. When he isn't in with the harem, he has an aged mare as a companion who is past breeding, with other mares just over the fence.
 
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