Horse afraid of field? Rugs? Puzzled!

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Have a 9yo TB mare. Owned her since she was a foal and we've lived here for 5.5 years. Field is very long and gate, shelter and hard standing all in the nearest left corner, beside road. Field goes away from the road. She's never been keen on going beyond say the first quarter of the field, even when the far end is full of good grass and she is really hungry. But this year as we had so much good weather she developed a habit of galloping down to the far end as soon as her rug was off, and stuffing her face and staying there all day. We were amazed as haven't seen her go down there in 5 years even with her buddies all down there. The weather started to turn and she did that less and less; and only ever when naked. She will eat with her rug on but only in the bit within sight of the gate. Now I've blocked off a good bit of the nearest part of the field. They can still get down the back but have to go in an L-shape along the road fence line then down the far right, like a sort of path around the edge. But she refuses, and when I have tried to lead her that way she panics and whips round back to the gate. One theory we have is that the gate/shelter is her safety zone, and that when rug-less she feels she can get back there quickly, but when rugged she feels "restricted" (even though it fits well and she can gallop plenty with it on!). And that now I'm making her go a convoluted route to the grass she feels too panicked ??? Yesterday I could tell she didn't leave the gate area all day due to completely clean hooves; even to drink - for 12 hours! I give her hay and she is in overnight but it's ridiculous if she won't drink? Turning her out is almost pointless, the only exercise she got yesterday was the walk to and from the field. I will carry on, though!

She wants the grass - stuffs her face when being led through a different field - and leaving her without hay makes no difference. Hunger doesn't solve it. Last autumn I experimented a bit before she was in overnight, with holding off on the hay feeding in the field; and she still hung out at the shelter and dropped weight instead :(. So I can't do that again but would really like to figure out the connection between the rug and her apparent fear or perceived threat in the field. She's a TB so leaving her naked isn't really an option as she grows such a pathetic coat. Her rugs are Horseware, I've order a different brand for elimination purposes but I doubt it's that. Also last winter she was on livery for a few months and grazed ok. But was in a normal square field where all parts were within sight of the gate. My field is so long (and wraps around a building) that much of it is hidden. Unfortunately it's also clay hence I'm trying to move fencing about to save some of it for when the ground freezes, so they have somewhere even to go.

I'd really like to hear if anyone has experienced similar and if there is any way I can coach her out of this. It's very frustrating that 6 acres of grass is being eaten by a Shetland pony and about 2 by my TB. And only when the stars are aligned...husband suggests just fencing her down the field but as I'm at work all day I don't think this is a plan, as she is the type to go through fences if really panicked.

Google was not my friend. Typing "horse afraid of grazing" did not yield results :p
 
I suppose horses often prefer to graze in the open, as opposed to being 'trapped' by large hedges, trees and perhaps a noisy road. We all know they do this so they can keep better look out for lions!
What sort of work does she do?
You'd be amazed what weather they can cope with being naked, cold is no problem. Cold and wet will be for a prolonged period of time.
By what you say, it does seem like the rug plays a significant role in the problem. Maybe experiment on good weather days without it and see what she does?
Is the road a busy one? Does she mind traffic noise?
 
No the road is very quiet and she doesn't mind traffic. But she is actually happy at the end near the road, it's the quiet end she won't go to. You know, peaceful, lovely view of the hills ;) Obviously her idea of relaxing is different to mine! She doesn't do much work really but is a donkey to hack, not spooky at all. She is an enigma really, has all these weird quirks but is by far and away the easiest horse I've owned in many others.

Interesting word "trapped", I will dwell on that. The part she won't go to seems plenty open to me but again who knows what is in her head. I've owned her since she was a foal and she's never had any issues in the field, ie injuries or anything that could obviously cause this. However as a weanling on her stud they were all wintered in a barn so perhaps she missed out on some formative training then? She had been out for a few months with her dam before that though.
 
It could be the noise the rug makes when it's windy I have known another horse just like it that would starve rather than move away from the gate area when her rug was on. Is she clipped? If not then just turn her out without a rug. It is not that cold yet and she will be coming in at night. You could also try changing the leg straps to a fillet as I have known horses dislike the straps and being fine without them.
 
Silly question.... And you may not ever be able to do it....

Have you ever moved the field shelter to the other end of the field?

If she spent a whole winter in a barn I expect the field shelter feels natural and a safety zone to her...

horse i I know will graze for hours if it can get back in a stable....enclose the horse in a field and it will do everything to get back to its stable!
 
Wagtail. Yes 2 just now in fact. They will disappear out of sight and she won't go with them. The rugs all have fillet strings, no leg straps, I am not a fan of them either! I'm not sure it's the wind to be honest as she never goes away, even in otherwise lovely weather, like today. But I will think about the noise aspect. Able the different brand will help answer that (but its Derby House so will likely never arrive!). I'm in Scotland though, so it's already pretty cold to be honest, I will try bit more nakedness if the forecast is good, but the problem is if she's cold when I go to get her in she is a PIG!

TandD no I've never moved it and couldn't. There is certainly an element of laziness if you will - ie if I stand here long enough someone will bring me food. And of course it is right by the gate so an obvious place to mooch. But there is also some fear or mental aspect, in that, if I opened the fencing back up, she'd graze nearby but not go any further, when rugged. This field has always had a shelter, and any others she has been in without a shelter were more conventional in shape, so I've not been able to test outs theory as to if it is the safety of the building itself.

Lots of food for thought which is great. I hadn't really made the weanling connection before which is possibly relevant. Still don't know how to sort it though!
 
I have a pony that does this. He is TB x con and is fine when he is out naked but can be funny with some rugs!
Especially his heavyweight with a neck, he will stand in a corner 'stuck' takes a stride then backs up into corner like there is an invisible box around him and when he comes out he will panic and bolt to gate. Nobody believes us until they watch him.
I've had him for 10 years now and he is 16 and will still do it with a change of rug although he is much better than he used to be. He just has to wear the same rugs for years and years until they fall apart!
 
As soon as her rug is on, the far part of the field is no-go. She lives out 24/7 in summer so there was a fair bit of rugs going on and off. Sometimes in the evening I'd come down to the field and if she was at the bottom I'd specifically sneak off again before she spotted me, and I broke the spell!
 
As soon as her rug is on, the far part of the field is no-go. She lives out 24/7 in summer so there was a fair bit of rugs going on and off. Sometimes in the evening I'd come down to the field and if she was at the bottom I'd specifically sneak off again before she spotted me, and I broke the spell!

This is going to sound weird... but are there any powerlines over the field?
 
Not that weird as I've thought about it!! Not over, but nearby. But in fact we have to walk within 20 feet of a pylon, under the wires, on the way to the field. She never cares even when it is misty and the wires buzz, on grass or on Tarmac, rugged or not. There is however a gas pipeline under the far end of the field. I have wondered about that but can't see how her rug would make a difference as she happily grazes down there in summer.
God she is weird.
 
Turn her out naked, let her go to the part of the field to graze for a few minutes, then take the rug to her in the field (I'd slip a headcoller on personally) and rug her up. Stand back and see what happens.......
 
Hmm, if there's no physical reason, it would probably be possible to do a counter-conditioning approach using increasingly large sized things on her back (starting with tea-towel sized) but honestly, I think I'd go for no rug and huge piles of hay!
 
Something to do with static electricity perhaps?

TBH, I'd turn her out naked, especially if she can get into the field shelter, which might encourage her coat to grow, and make sure that she has plenty of forage to eat.
 
She's not apparently afraid of her rug though? Happily walks the half mile up and back with it on. She will graze with it on near the gate/shelter, or in hand right outside the gate; but just won't go out of sight unless naked. And right now it's compounded because I've fenced off her favourite grazing part to allow it to recover, so she has to go an alternate route. She has decided this is somehow extra threatening and won't currently go there At All - naked or rugged. Not even to drink. She won't even let me lead her up, it is like she has concluded that death will occur if she goes there. At the weekend I got her up to the grassy area, just, and she whipped round like a demon had possessed her and bolted, literally, for the gate.

So basically, rug on and safe part of field = ok. Rug off and far away part of field = ok most of the time. Rug on or off and some random part of the field she has currently decided is terrifying, but it wasn't before = no way not a chance in hell. I think I said up thread she is going all day without drinking :(

So the rug is definitely part of the puzzle but this current abject fear of an otherwise innocuous part, that she happily grazed in before, is extra strange.
 
Something to do with static electricity perhaps?

TBH, I'd turn her out naked, especially if she can get into the field shelter, which might encourage her coat to grow, and make sure that she has plenty of forage to eat.

I wondered about the nylon lining, I'm looking for a decent cotton summer sheet to try underneath. She is an itchy horse.

She does of course get plenty hay, but I'd rather she grazed for at least part of the day, and would certainly rather she went up to her waterer!
 
Is she a foodie, as in could you feed her in the scary part? Obviously you would have to make sure the others can't get to her if you were to do this.
 
She eats her hard feed well enough but not sure about it being enough of a motivator to overcome fear. I can maybe try it in the summer (easier for lots of reasons) but for instance, in the summer if she was down the back if the field, I'd walk down with a bucket, and as soon as she spotted me she would gallop flat out towards and then past me, and the bucket, to go back to the gate??? And just now I took her in in a squall. Thunder and lightening. Walking through the field that isn't mine she was stuffing her face, yanking my arms off to eat grass despite the weather, yet in her own field where she has been all day she wouldn't go and eat.

I have a livery that is leaving in a month. I think once she goes I will open back up the front part a couple of days a week or something and hopefully she will eat some grass those days (and not destroy it too much!) and maybe have to re-think my fencing strategy.

Thanks to everyone for contributions. I know this is a very odd problem and it is really about brainstorming ideas. There is unlikely to be a true "reason" I can find but I've certainly got lots to think about.
 
Hi there,
Sorry, i realise this is a really old thread but i've just seen it. I have a mare (tb x) who sounds exactly the same as yours, i put a post up on H&H in 2012 asking for advice. I was just wondering if you have had a any success? My mare sadly still hangs around the gate and fence line with her rug on and can be a pain to lead. We have adaped though and much easier to handle now we are in a routine. For a while she got completely better with a cotton summer sheet under her normal turnout but this hasn't worked this winter. Today she is
with her vest on which she doesn't seem to mind but id love to get her roaming free with her normal rug on, any advice appreciated.
 
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