Horse bought not as described...............

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I have since found out that this horse had only been with the seller for 6 weeks which sounds like they had it in to sell?Rather than the private home they said they were?

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Still doesn't matter.
 
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I have since found out that this horse had only been with the seller for 6 weeks which sounds like they had it in to sell?Rather than the private home they said they were?

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They either brought the horse, expected it to be for a novice then sold on quickly or are a dealer. It would be hard to prove they are a dealer unless you can find alot of other purchasers.

Not sure if I missed it but has your friend spoken to the sellers and explained the situation? Did she buy it as a novice ride?
 
Knowing where you are and what you do as a job I'm afraid your friend has probably bought a dodgy one. Either a dodgy dealer has tried to pull a fast one or it was a private seller who bought the horse in good faith and found themselves in the situation you are in now.
Was the horse bought locally? If so PM me the deatils of who it was bought from as you never know, I might know of them.
Have you asked the vet to run the bloods yet?
 
Yes, she has spoken to them and they said it was fine with them.

I would just add that although the owner is a novice rider, she is not a novice owner- she has had a horse for 5 years but its not being ridden due to a medical issue.
 
Are you sure this horse is not just very unsettled???

When i first brought my horse she was a head case!! Nothing like the placid horse i had been to see. She smashed down 3 stables and ended up living out while they were all being fixed. You couldn't tie her up coz she would throw herself on the floor. Getting on her was a death wish and even when the saddler came down to fit her for a new saddle he wouldn't let me get on her. No-one at the yard would even go near her let alone touch her and i was beggining to wonder what i had brought.

I even rung the old owner and she said she had enever experienced this behavour from her. I was really at my wits end and even posted on here about it.

It took her about 4 months to settle and now i have the placid horse back that i tried out. She still gets upset if she is left on her own but she is a baby so is still a bit insecure.

Some horses just take a lot longer to settle than others!! I would say persevere for a bit longer as once he is in a routine he should start to settle
 
We have spoken to the vet about the blood, we are leaving them having looked at until Monday as he says it is very expensive to do and either way the horse isn't as described by the vendor to him or the owner.
 
Sometimes this is just a normal reaction to being moved to a new home.

One of my old horses practically wrecked her new home. Broke gates and smashed up stables. She never did it here. Luckily the new owner knew that. It took her 12 months to settle in.

I think some horses slot right in and others get deeply upset by it all.

We are dealing with large animals with their own mind so we can never expect it to be plain sailing. Just be grateful when it is
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I hope the horse settles very soon.
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The horse is showing no signs of being unsettled.Its quiet in the field, in the stable and to ride,it just naps to the gate and throws a temper tantrum when you tell it that its not an acceptable way to behave.
 
I agree Kelly but at the same time if the owners confidence has been lost and she doesnt feel safe on the horse, the longer she leaves it I suppose the less chance they have of a comeback.

Have you asked the previous owners to take him back?

If they will, problem solved, if they wont, it may be a case of giving him a bit of time to settle.
 
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I have since found out that this horse had only been with the seller for 6 weeks which sounds like they had it in to sell?Rather than the private home they said they were?

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That brings me back to my point again, if this horse has been passed around then he doesn't know whether he is coming or going. My horse had been moved round 3 times in 6 months and the last move was the last straw for her but has since settled again now she realises she is not going anywhere.

It just sounds to me like this horse is very unsettled and is a nervous wreck at the mo. If he was mine i would perservere without a doubt.
 
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The horse is showing no signs of being unsettled.Its quiet in the field, in the stable and to ride,it just naps to the gate and throws a temper tantrum when you tell it that its not an acceptable way to behave.

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So it is quite to ride - but has issues about leaving the yard?? Has anyone tried to ride this horse out with another??
 
Totally agree with you amymay ... Dealing with 2 youngsters at our local riding school that have went out and bought ponies that are not suitable ... One set of parents dont want to buy an nice quiet coloured little mare because she is doesnt like coloureds ? wtf ? If its quiet and its sound and it suits ? well then does it really matter what colour it it ?


Like you amymay I have seen time and time again inexperienced riders go and buya nice looking horse and think its the one for them until they get it home and its a different story .

Its not the pony/horses fault 9/10 times
 
Ditto Amymay, still waiting to hear how old the horse is too?

My new boy is 6, however done nothing for a year, I dont expect him to hack out alone yet as we have only had him a month and he has never hacked alone anyway, so he is out in company for a while until he is settled in, used to being in work again and his confidence builds.

Nothing worse than overfacing a horse. Especially a new one, they have enough to cope with moving home.
 
Again, if anything like my boy, if you're a nervous rider and you try and take him out on his own he's like 'no way'. If you ride him on strongly and positively it's a different story and he won't nap.

The horse obviously isn't 100% about going out on his/her own - worth getting a strong confident rider to take it out? When I say strong i don't mean someone to beat it but just someone who will not take any rubbish!
 
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Invite the previous owner to come and ride it at your yard and see if it changes anything. Alert the vet that the bloods might need examining and if you know somebody who is well qualified and truely independent, consider asking them for a professional opinion that they might need to be prepared to go to County Court with..although anything you can do to avoid going to court would be good. Consider re vetting to eliminate any possible injuries received since the original vetting or while travelling.

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I like this idea. It's just a way of ensuring that people are honest. I would make a list of things I wanted to ask beforehand too, otherwise I'm sure you can forget in the heat of the moment!

Plus I would def. take someone experienced and non-biased who could give me advice. Probably an instructor - someone who could be non emotional as that would be my problem and I'd buy the pity case!

It's a complete minefield! I like the idea of trial periods too, then if people are reluctant to do this then you know theres probably something that will come out...

Won't have to worry for a good few years yet hopefully! I've never bought a horse for myself as my parents chose (very well!) when I was younger and I'm just loaning now.
 
Sounds like your friend needs to sort things asap, whilst there is some recourse to the law.
I like the idea of the old owner coming and riding the horse and demonstrating how quiet and biddable it is.
If it was described as a quiet and straightforward all rounder then it shouldn't throw big bucks for no reason, bu**er off or nap!! period.
I expect the seller has been sitting for the last week with fingers crossed that they had managed to shift it and praying that it wouldn't come back.
 
If this is a dealer then you might have problems. Most are very clever, it's what they don't tell you rather than what they do tell you.
If they stated this horse was suitable for a novice, that it was 100% in every way, didnt nap, didnt rear, buck or b***er off then I'd be very suprised. Alot of dealers will only answer questions you ask. if you don't ask they don't say.

Always get a reciept for the horse, always ensure you have written and signed by both parties what the horse is described as, any vices. Ie "*** paid for (so and so horse), 15.2 bay gelding, x years old. Horse sold as sound and in good health, suitable for a novice rider, allrounder, signed (buyer) (seller) (date)" (this is just a quick example).
than you would have comeback.
If the seller did not specifically say, in front of witnesses, that this horse is suitable for a novice, then my guess would be that you're stuck with it. Unless you can be very very nice to the seller and plead to their better nature, i which case
they may take the horse back.
 
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A friend bought a horse last week for a significant amount of money. She is a novice rider and the ad described the horse as being an allrounder, 100% this that and the other, quiet etc.


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You say your friend has owned for 5 years -
I have owned and ridden for nearly 30 years but I still wouldn't buy another horse without someone else more experienced than me look at it and extensive pre-purchase trialling.

In this instance I would try very had to send the horse back as your friend may have lost her confidence with it already. I don't know how you go about it and where you stand legally but this would be my first course of action, personally.

It is probably a good horse but just not suitable and if she paid loads for it then it is possible that the vendor is pro. If they won't take it back, get it to schooling livery and sell on. Just sounds like your friend has taken-on too much, not necessarily a dodgy vendor.

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How did the horse tarvel to your yard? Sounds to me if it was good as gold at old yard it was either drugged and therefore you need to have the bloods done, or it has hurt itself (ie put back out) and therefore is in pain and is saying no! I would have it looked at, preferably by the vet who vetted it.
 
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They dropped the horse off.

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So still interested to know if the horse was attempted to be hacked out on it's own or with a 'friend'.
 
What condition was it in when it walked off the trailer? Sweaty/ upset/ calm? I would seriously have it's backed checked. I'm the sort of person that always tries to see the best in everybody, but he could have slipped in the box and hurt it's back and thet's why it's good on the ground but a nightmare to ride. It's worth having it checked.
 
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It was ridden in company btw.

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And asked to go first, side by side or just plain old follow.
 
Hmm... Well you have to check the bloods then really if you're sure that it can't be in physical pain. Horses don't change from being good as gold to lunatics for no reason. Something must have happened. I agree with the tohers that you shouldn't wait as otherwise you will be accused of creating the behaviour. It doesn't cost that much to do bloods. It would be worth it.
 
Good point - I bought a really nice horse in Sept last year and he still shows the odd sign of being not quite at home - his character changed as well, I almost thought I'd got the wrong horse!
 
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AmyMay- all 3. Makes no difference. Puts on the anchors- plays up.

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Interesting - does sound a bit of a git.

Oh well, certainly sounds like one to put down to experience.

Let us know how she gets on.
 
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