Horse Communicator - Lesley Anderson

FionaM12 said:
Yes very guessable and how would a horse know how many owners? Animals don't count (even some races of humans don't have that concept), and they aren't likely to understand about "ownership". Mollie might know which humans are around a lot, feed her etc but I doubt she knows which of us is her owner? Or even understand what ownership is?

They just sound like very human concepts, and wishful thinking.

We all want to think our horses like our singing! ;):o
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Lol..he's obviously tone deaf!
 
Don't know this lady at all, but did have a communication done, as an experiment by someone who was training to do it. I was not at all convinced by the idea, BEFORE the reading, I was however blown away by the information I was given. To cut a long story short, the communicator told me all about my former Appy, the current Appy and one or two other animals we had around at the time. Some of it could, perhaps, have been found out on here and other places, some of it certainly could not. Over time my mare has communicated with this person, who then gets in touch with me to tell me so! Always accurate and always interesting.
 
FionaM12 said:
Yes very guessable and how would a horse know how many owners? Animals don't count (even some races of humans don't have that concept), and they aren't likely to understand about "ownership". Mollie might know which humans are around a lot, feed her etc but I doubt she knows which of us is her owner? Or even understand what ownership is?

They just sound like very human concepts, and wishful thinking.

We all want to think our horses like our singing! ;):o
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It has fairly recently been shown that the great apes can indeed count although they seem to see numbers of things in the same way that savants do, rather than us more normal folk. Our friends dog used to visit us of her own accord (she lived half a mile away) and it was no good giving her only two biscuits, she would always wait for the third one and then toddle off home again. Even if you broke a biscuit in half she wasn't fooled.
 
YorksG said:
Don't know this lady at all, but did have a communication done, as an experiment by someone who was training to do it. I was not at all convinced by the idea, BEFORE the reading, I was however blown away by the information I was given. To cut a long story short, the communicator told me all about my former Appy, the current Appy and one or two other animals we had around at the time. Some of it could, perhaps, have been found out on here and other places, some of it certainly could not. Over time my mare has communicated with this person, who then gets in touch with me to tell me so! Always accurate and always interesting.
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But how do you know the communicator is not reading you? Why would it be the horse? Virtually all the information people have said has been true could have been gleened from psychicly reading the human, not the horse. I do believe that some people have a sixth sense, but I find it too much of a stretch that they can actually talk to animals. We all know how important other equines are to horses, and how in almost every case, they would choose their company over ours. So why on earth would they choose to talk to a stranger?
 
Wagtail said:
We all know how important other equines are to horses, and how in almost every case, they would choose their company over ours. So why on earth would they choose to talk to a stranger?
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This is the sort of thing I was trying to get at, but can't find the words. Also, ACs seem to tell us horses are seeing things from such a human point of view, and talk a lot about past owners and their human traits etc...

I feel if Mollie could talk, the things which matter to her are things like the taste of the grass, her field companions past and present and probably other things which matter to a horse but we humans don't even think about. :rolleyes:
 
i had one done with my old horse a few years ago - im very scepticle about stuff like this but she was 100% spot on....

i was in tears as the stuff she said (diff person than listed) i checked ou - (such as a bad shoulder etc) she was bob on...i never knew this.
 
I had a man on a bike forum I have been on for years start a thread about an amazing medium that his wife had been speaking to on one of the premium rate numbers. He didn't want to go into details, but he said that she had been absolutely spot on with everything she has said to his wife including things that she could never have known or found out about, so was telling us all that it was real and we should call this lady if we wanted the same thing.

I am a scientist at heart, so I was extremely sceptical...and I was right to be.

I said to him, " I bet you anything that they have ways of finding out these things, but because your wife already called and wanted it done, she was already convinced of the validity.

I then said, I bet I could find out the same stuff about your wife if I had the 2 hours notice that the people at the "mediums" office had. Yep..that's right, the "medium" spoke to her for less than 5 minutes, told her not to give away any details other than name and landline telephone number for contact purposes and their records. She would then call her back 2 hours later while she went somewhere quiet to listen for lost loved ones and get in touch with her on a psychic level...

Another member chimed in and said, "right...you tell me the details that this medium gave your wife...GG, you go find out what you can and in two hours, I will post up both for us all to see.

just over 20 minutes later, with the same information, just his wifes name and landline number (sent by PM) I had found out that:-

She had moved house two months prior to the call

Lost a brother-in-law in a bike accident

Had a husband called Wang who was struggling to deal with taking over his grandfathers business following the death of his grandfather from a stroke

Had a friend undergoing treatment for cancer

Was always struggling with self confidence

Had two children, a boy and a girl...twins


All of the above were bang on and all had been said by the "medium". There were more but I won't bore you with all of them.
The only two things that the medium said that I didn't were that the two children were currently in bed.....not hard to figure that one out since the call was made at 10:30PM and that she was worried about feeling at a loss and alone in the very near future, possibly missing hands on motherhood...again, easy to say that as I found out the age of her twins and that they were about to start school the following week!

Wang was in shock when he realised I had learned so much in such a short space of time. I was easy. I logged on to google and searched the area code to find out what area the landline number was related to. Then I searched facebook for the name. No name listed, but a few of the same surname in the same area and after about 3 minutes, found her sisters profile page, which was private. I found out it was her sister when I clicked the page of the person listed as her sisters fiance. His profile was open, so I was able to find out that it was the fiance in law of Wangs wife...10 minutes looking through the history and I found out about the cancer, the brother-in-law being killed and lots of the details, then a link to Wangs new website for the business. Clicked on that and found out his grandfather had died of a stroke and Wang had taken over the business. There was also an apology from Wang on the homepage to the customers basically saying he was sorry for any inconvenience caused while he struggles to get to grips with the business.

I could go on, but won't. Point is...if you want to find things out...you can and it is not that difficult.

I absolutely hate with a passion anyone who uses fraud and emotions to get money out of people.

I did that search purely to prove that NOTHING said by the medium couldn't have been found out easily online OR assumed as an educated guess...like, how hard is it to guess that 5 years old twins would be in bed at 10:30 at night???

I don't have any problem with people wanting this kind of thing...but I will always say to take things with a pinch of salt and don't part with too much money.
 
Aaaw, now I want you to do a reading for me, GG :D

I am actually dead curious how much about me is accessible online - I imagine there's a lot more than I think. Bit hard to check yourself when you know what and who you're looking for, though!
 
_GG_ said:
I had a man on a bike forum I have been on for years start a thread about an amazing medium that his wife had been speaking to on one of the premium rate numbers. He didn't want to go into details, but he said that she had been absolutely spot on with everything she has said to his wife including things that she could never have known or found out about, so was telling us all that it was real and we should call this lady if we wanted the same thing.

I am a scientist at heart, so I was extremely sceptical...and I was right to be.

I said to him, " I bet you anything that they have ways of finding out these things, but because your wife already called and wanted it done, she was already convinced of the validity.

I then said, I bet I could find out the same stuff about your wife if I had the 2 hours notice that the people at the "mediums" office had. Yep..that's right, the "medium" spoke to her for less than 5 minutes, told her not to give away any details other than name and landline telephone number for contact purposes and their records. She would then call her back 2 hours later while she went somewhere quiet to listen for lost loved ones and get in touch with her on a psychic level...

Another member chimed in and said, "right...you tell me the details that this medium gave your wife...GG, you go find out what you can and in two hours, I will post up both for us all to see.

just over 20 minutes later, with the same information, just his wifes name and landline number (sent by PM) I had found out that:-

She had moved house two months prior to the call

Lost a brother-in-law in a bike accident

Had a husband called Wang who was struggling to deal with taking over his grandfathers business following the death of his grandfather from a stroke

Had a friend undergoing treatment for cancer

Was always struggling with self confidence

Had two children, a boy and a girl...twins


All of the above were bang on and all had been said by the "medium". There were more but I won't bore you with all of them.
The only two things that the medium said that I didn't were that the two children were currently in bed.....not hard to figure that one out since the call was made at 10:30PM and that she was worried about feeling at a loss and alone in the very near future, possibly missing hands on motherhood...again, easy to say that as I found out the age of her twins and that they were about to start school the following week!

Wang was in shock when he realised I had learned so much in such a short space of time. I was easy. I logged on to google and searched the area code to find out what area the landline number was related to. Then I searched facebook for the name. No name listed, but a few of the same surname in the same area and after about 3 minutes, found her sisters profile page, which was private. I found out it was her sister when I clicked the page of the person listed as her sisters fiance. His profile was open, so I was able to find out that it was the fiance in law of Wangs wife...10 minutes looking through the history and I found out about the cancer, the brother-in-law being killed and lots of the details, then a link to Wangs new website for the business. Clicked on that and found out his grandfather had died of a stroke and Wang had taken over the business. There was also an apology from Wang on the homepage to the customers basically saying he was sorry for any inconvenience caused while he struggles to get to grips with the business.

I could go on, but won't. Point is...if you want to find things out...you can and it is not that difficult.

I absolutely hate with a passion anyone who uses fraud and emotions to get money out of people.

I did that search purely to prove that NOTHING said by the medium couldn't have been found out easily online OR assumed as an educated guess...like, how hard is it to guess that 5 years old twins would be in bed at 10:30 at night???

I don't have any problem with people wanting this kind of thing...but I will always say to take things with a pinch of salt and don't part with too much money.
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Have you read Christopher Brookmyre's "Attack of the Unsinkable Rubber Ducks" ?


Anyway this Lesley Anderson was talked about on this forum a few years ago. I sent her a couple of pictures. I had a new horse and I wanted to see if there (purely as I had £15 to part with) if she could guess anthying about him. Anyway, she gave me lots of information, but not a jot of it was accurate. However, some of it might have been reasonably accurate for a horse of mine that was plastered all over FB. :rolleyes:

Also, I had a friend who had gone missing (who is now presumed dead) and I sent a photo of her too, wishfully hoping that something might come from that reading. And yet another £15 spare, I sent a photo but zero information. The guff I got from that reading was the most bogus of the lot. I don't mind parting with the £30 because to be honest, I half expected it to be bogus, but hoped sincerely that it wouldn't.
 
Floxie said:
Aaaw, now I want you to do a reading for me, GG :D

I am actually dead curious how much about me is accessible online - I imagine there's a lot more than I think. Bit hard to check yourself when you know what and who you're looking for, though!
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That and the fact that it took me 20 minutes to find out what the medium had two hours to find...so just imagine, with the team of researchers that these companies have how much they can actually get.

We live today in a society where information about us is shared without our knowledge.

An individual might have no online presence on forums or facebook etc...but a quick search on ancestry.com and it would be easy to find relatives that do have an online presence and gather information that way.

This is why it is even more popular now than ever. Because we or our nearest and dearest share information about us that is very easy to find.

You don't have to be Miss. Marple to figure this stuff out.


In times past...it was the old story of popular complaint that worked. In other words...the old chestnut of, "I am getting someone called Nick...or Nicholas, or Nickie, Nicola...(no response so change to...) no, no it's not Nick, it's Rich, Richard...and keep going until you get the right name. Always common names etc. That still happens and that is what I believe animal communicators do.

If you could really communicate with animals, to the point that a horse can bleeding count or know what county it came from...they would sure as hell have some things to say to us.

I would expect readings to be more along the lines of, "by the way mum...what's with the starvation diet? I am a greedy pony and there's loads of grass next door....LET ME AT IT"

I just don't buy it. I am open to having my mind changed...a scientist never says never...but I am seriously not convinced.
 
_GG_ said:
I would expect readings to be more along the lines of, "by the way mum...what's with the starvation diet? I am a greedy pony and there's loads of grass next door....LET ME AT IT"
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Exactly. And 'You know when you bring me in from the field, can you stop it with all that uncomfortable stuff you tie around me. A bucket of feed and a good scratch around the withers will suffice. Oh and you could do with losing a few pounds...'
 
fatpiggy said:
It has fairly recently been shown that the great apes can indeed count although they seem to see numbers of things in the same way that savants do, rather than us more normal folk. Our friends dog used to visit us of her own accord (she lived half a mile away) and it was no good giving her only two biscuits, she would always wait for the third one and then toddle off home again. Even if you broke a biscuit in half she wasn't fooled.
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My cat can count. I used to sneak her kittens away, one at a time, to cuddle and socialise and she would promptly follow me and take it off me and drag it back upstairs ..you'd think with 5 she'd either not notice or be grateful. :rolleyes:
 
I have a clairvoyant medium in a link on my website.Like others I was sceptical but knowing nothing about me she told me things only I could possibly know.
I wasn't a believer and now I am and couldn't care if no one else is, she's helped me no end and that's all that matters, not what others think.If you lot want readings you go ahead and get them and good luck to you.
There's many charlatans out there I understand that but when you find someone who is genuine then it's worth sticking with them,Oz
 
cremedemonthe said:
I have a clairvoyant medium in a link on my website.Like others I was sceptical but knowing nothing about me she told me things only I could possibly know.
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This is what I was talking about earlier. I do believe in clairvoyants, but I don't believe they communicate with animals. Some may have an amazing ampathy with them, like many good horsemen do, but I believe they are reading the humans, not the animals. Why do you need to know things that you already know? What I would want to know are things that only my horse could know. Otherwise, what use is it?
 
AC really interestest me, but I am very sceptical about it all, as I am with mediums and such like. The thought of people toying with others emotions for some quick cash is awful.

Wagtail said:
Exactly. And 'You know when you bring me in from the field, can you stop it with all that uncomfortable stuff you tie around me. A bucket of feed and a good scratch around the withers will suffice. Oh and you could do with losing a few pounds...'
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^^^ THIS!
Im sure if my horse was asked about her owners, she wouldn't respond to an AC with, 'Oh no, this lady just loans me, my real Mummy is enjoying herself in another country for a few years'!!

I dont beleive someone can look at a photograph, and not even be present, and list off all these (suspiciously human) traits and habbits.

Having said that, I have witnessed a communication session at a friends yard, and it was very interesting. (Will say who if asked) This person said they asked the horse questions and was shown the answers in pictures which they then translated. We asked very silly questions about the horses life-style (such as do you like your blingy brow band-to which horse apparently let him know she thought it was very beneath her!) and we got some other wonderful answers...Alot that interestingly were spot on and the horses personalities really came out in. Some that explained problems they had too, but again no contrete evidence for anything, just some 'spooky' coincidences!
 
Wagtail said:
This is what I was talking about earlier. I do believe in clairvoyants, but I don't believe they communicate with animals. Some may have an amazing ampathy with them, like many good horsemen do, but I believe they are reading the humans, not the animals. Why do you need to know things that you already know? What I would want to know are things that only my horse could know.Otherwise, what use is it?
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She was proving to me she wasn't the charlatan I thought she was.
She has helped animals in the past, I think it's hard to prove the spirit world but it's equally hard not to prove it and the for and against argument will go on and on and on............ :)
 
I think this could be studied in a somewhat empirical manner but I imagine no one really wants to do it. Well, I do, but I imagine you'd have a hard time finding psychics to participate.

You need a large number of horse owners to send a person who says they are an animal communicator photos of their horses and ask the same question. Then the answers can be examined for accuracy and you can assess, from a large amount of data, whether or not the communicator is, for example, saying general things which would be true of most horses, saying similar general things for all the horses they are asked to read, saying things which could be specific for any individual horse, and how accurate they are.

I have asked for a reading from a communicator (in the name of science, of course) and to be honest, I remain unsure either way. I have had the horse for a very long time and, like a lawyer cross-examining a witness in court, worked on the grounds that I would know the answers to the questions, and that made it an interesting test.

The answers I got described my horse's personality with what I would say was a high degree of accuracy. All the communicator had was an emailed picture of the horse and all I said was that I wanted a "general" reading. I did not give her any further information about myself or the horse. The things the communicator chose to write about in her two page reading were in some ways broad enough to describe a lot of horses -- possibly -- but they were things which I would say are *strongly* characteristic of my horse, and if I had to write a two-page paper describing her, they're exactly the things I would choose to emphasise. Also, none of this information is Google-able (I did try. Googling my horse's name comes up with nothing whatsoever related to her, and Googling me comes up with a load of academic stuff I've done, but nothing horsey).

I asked a follow-up question, searching for more specific information, and the results from that were a bit mixed. I asked what the horse remembered from her past (in the first reading, the communicator said the horse remembered us doing lots of stuff together) and got quite fuzzy answers from that. I also asked what she liked about her current stable and the response was much more specific and again, scarily accurate.

Make of that what you will. :)
 
Caol Ila said:
I think this could be studied in a somewhat empirical manner but I imagine no one really wants to do it. Well, I do, but I imagine you'd have a hard time finding psychics to participate.

You need a large number of horse owners to send a person who says they are an animal communicator photos of their horses and ask the same question. Then the answers can be examined for accuracy and you can assess, from a large amount of data, whether or not the communicator is, for example, saying general things which would be true of most horses, saying similar general things for all the horses they are asked to read, saying things which could be specific for any individual horse, and how accurate they are.

I have asked for a reading from a communicator (in the name of science, of course) and to be honest, I remain unsure either way. I have had the horse for a very long time and, like a lawyer cross-examining a witness in court, worked on the grounds that I would know the answers to the questions, and that made it an interesting test.

The answers I got described my horse's personality with what I would say was a high degree of accuracy. All the communicator had was an emailed picture of the horse and all I said was that I wanted a "general" reading. I did not give her any further information about myself or the horse. The things the communicator chose to write about in her two page reading were in some ways broad enough to describe a lot of horses -- possibly -- but they were things which I would say are *strongly* characteristic of my horse, and if I had to write a two-page paper describing her, they're exactly the things I would choose to emphasise. Also, none of this information is Google-able (I did try. Googling my horse's name comes up with nothing whatsoever related to her, and Googling me comes up with a load of academic stuff I've done, but nothing horsey).

I asked a follow-up question, searching for more specific information, and the results from that were a bit mixed. I asked what the horse remembered from her past (in the first reading, the communicator said the horse remembered us doing lots of stuff together) and got quite fuzzy answers from that. I also asked what she liked about her current stable and the response was much more specific and again, scarily accurate.

Make of that what you will. :)
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Interesting. I still think that if the communiators are really psychic that they are reading the person, not the horse.
 
It would be good if someone could do a reading on HHO don't you think? Say, someone posted a photo and an AC could do it "live" so to speak.
 
I have to say that many years ago a member on here predicted many things about me without even knowing my real name. She described the car my husband drove and the name of my Mum (which is not a common name at all!). So I do believe people can do remote readings, but I think they are of people and not animals.
 
HHO readings would make for an interesting experiment.

I was trying to walk a fine line between fishing for specific information but not giving anything away. For example, I guess I would have liked to see something about my horse's tendency to be nasty and aggressive towards other horses, or find out if she had any understanding or perception of moving from the US to the UK (was in a big box for a while, came out, and all the people talked funny and it rains. A lot). I didn't. But I also wanted a reading as unbiased from the communicator's perceptions of things I wrote as I could get, and I feel that as soon as you introduce quite specific details about you or your horse, you run that risk. So I gave no details other than the minimum requirements, which was just the photo of the horse and her name. Not even her age or location.
 
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