Horse Communicator

horsegirl said:
Because I'm not the one trying to con people out of their money. I don't need to prove anything.
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Stick to the point here, if people believe they believe, if they dont, they dont, the OP asked for advice, she will make her mind up from the answers. What makes you think that your opinion is so important to others that they have to prove themselves to you.

Another point to ponder, have scientists never been wrong in their absolute certainty about something?
 
Oooh I dont know if I dare tell u this (I am the OP) but I am currently waiting for confirmation of a date for a communication. I feel I have nothing to lose, possible something to gain. I am keeping an open mind. I am aware of things being said that could apply in most situations but know there are a number of things that only I can know. I await in anticipation and will let you know how it goes :)
 
Chermar said:
So you don't believe................. so what, Just drop it. You'll never convince the believers they are wrong, and why should you they aren't doing you any harm. Just like no one will convince you that there are things that can't be guessed. So why trail this on it's already been hi-jacked from the original question.
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Oh get back in your box! NO-ONE appointed you arbiter of what should or should not be discussed on this forum!

And I can't see that the thread has been hijacked from the original question, which was:

"Do you think an animal communicator would be worth a try."

The OP has concerns about her horse,and questions she'd like answered. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that an AC would be delighted to give her answers - for a fee. Whether those answers are correct or incorrect guesses - or at ALL helpful - only the OP could judge AFTER she's paid her money!!

It's no skin off MY nose how the OP spends her money -or whether she acts on what an AC tells her. Except that I don't like to see caring horse owners ripped off and misdirected. Say the AC says the horse doesn't like his livery yard - so at inconvenience and expense, OP moves horse to another yard. WILL the horse be happier -or will he be unsettled by the move and object to being in a stable that faces North and is opposite a chestnut mare who makes nasty faces at him!! (And that-quite seriously - is the sort of NONSENSE AC's tell their trusting clients all the time!)

It would make it SO easy for trainers if ACs actually COULD ask a horse what its problem was - and then explain to the horse that the trainer is actually its last chance - owner has decided to have horse PTS if trainer can't solve its behavioural problems in the next 2 weeks!! As it is, we poor trainers just have to muddle along- making our best guesses about WHY this horse wants to kick everyone's head in, or why it rears under certain circumstances and not others! Or why it's the quietest thing on 4 legs EXCEPT when it sees a bicycle -or hears clippers - or ......


No-one can change my mind to what I think and I wouldn't try to change other peoples mind to what they think, why bother?? What do I care, what other people do or do not believe??
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What a sad, narrow-minded person you must be! If everyone had your outlook, we'd still be living in caves; men would still think it acceptable to crack a woman over the head with a club and drag their unconscious bodies into the cave, and of course people viewed as witches would still be burned at the stake!:rolleyes:
 
JanetGeorge said:
Because this is a discussion forum - and I'm not trying to convince the believers - although I HOPE that I can create additional doubt in those tempted to fall for it.

And the people who peddle this nonsense can't do ME any harm - because I wouldn't let them. But I have seen real instances where they have done harm - to people and to animals.
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I had a Reading done on one off my geldings, she said he was nervous, anxious horse which he is. Had a bad start and been beaten which he had. Spooky to hack on his own which he is but fine in company which was spot on again and at the end said that I had taken him hunting once by what she could tell and I missed the meet and caught up with them. SPOT ON there is no way she could know that.
 
JanetGeorge said:
But this is the clever thing! A so-called 'communicator' can say almost anything they like about a horse - the chances are that some of what they say IS true (purely by chance) - and horse's owner siezes upon that as PROOF that the communicator is genuine. And of course -unless the owner has had the horse ALL its life - he/she can't DISPROVE the claims.

Sorry to disagree with you JG. I usually respect your opinions, based on your extensive experience and down-to-earth attitude. But really....... the point about this was that this particular horse had an issue with her hind fetlocks when we got her. Something had happened to her after the viewing but before delivery. I had asked for her to be shod as part of the deal. The horse which had picked her feet up for me at the viewing with no trouble at all, was difficult for us with her feet and an absolute nightmare for the farrier. The farrier was certain that this was because a particular female farrier that he knew of in the area where she had been on sales livery, so presumably only shod the once there, used hobbles. This was never a common practice so far as I'm aware and I really think that it would have been very hard for an ac to come up with that as a generic reading.
On a different point.... do you keep many terriers in blue barrels? Ours was the only one we had ever done that with and it was only because she died at home from natural causes and the ground was frozen. Again I don't think that could be called a generic comment. By the way neither I nor my sister has ever paid for a reading. They were done at the request of the ac as practice for her. We were told things that meant nothing to us, neither of us has commented on them, as you say we don't know everything that has happened to them in their lives.
I'd like to hear the reaction of my pupils and their parents, if they knew that I had been called 'gullible'. I certainly don't need a communicator or psychic to know that they would be rolling about laughing.
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There is no diagnostic test for schizophrenia, yet it is a medically recognised illness, with specific drugs created for its treatment. It is diagnosed by clustering of symptoms, there is no prood that it exists at all. There are some things that we all accept exist, but there is no proof of that existance (just about all the psychiatric diseases) There is no scan or blood test which can be used to diagnose autism, but I know of no-one who says that it doesn't exist. The point of this? No -one can proove these exist, just like they cannot proove that remote communication, communication between species and esp exist. Worth a thought perhaps?
 
response to the OP-regardless of whatever positive or negative comments you've had on this thread, i'd still be very interested to hear what the AC says about your horse. really hope you come back and post :)
 
Pearlsasinger said:
The farrier was certain that this was because a particular female farrier that he knew of in the area where she had been on sales livery, so presumably only shod the once there, used hobbles. This was never a common practice so far as I'm aware and I really think that it would have been very hard for an ac to come up with that as a generic reading.
On a different point.... do you keep many terriers in blue barrels? Ours was the only one we had ever done that with and it was only because she died at home from natural causes and the ground was frozen. Again I don't think that could be called a generic comment. By the way neither I nor my sister has ever paid for a reading. They were done at the request of the ac as practice for her. We were told things that meant nothing to us, neither of us has commented on them, as you say we don't know everything that has happened to them in their lives.
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Did the farrier know the AC? Or did the AC know the female farrier?

I would guess that the AC had to know you - or know someone who knew you - to approach you as a practice subject. It's amazing how much gossip goes around the horse world!:D I know a well known AC who many people think is the bee's knees! I also know the source of MUCH of her information about various people and their horses! Wierdly enough, I don't think SHE knows -I think she does genuinely believe she gets it from the horses!

I'm fascinated by the terrier though - did this come up through 'communicating' with the horse?? Why on EARTH did the horse bother mentioning it to her?:rolleyes:
 
Lots of things go on that we cannot rationalize and therefore understand. I would love to believe that people can communicate with horses as they claim, but, when they do it over the phone, thats just too much for me. Lol.
 
I am sitting on the fence with all of this.
BUT (apart from the terrier in the tub..)

if I was an AC going to see someones horse, I would talk about

Farrier - horse loves or hates
Vet - horse love or hates
fencing - scary
Jumping - likes it a bit, doesnt like certain jumps
How horsey loves mum
Sore back/neck/leg - had ill fitting saddle once upon a time....
Previous lameness - Find me a horse that has NEVER been lame
horsey buddy - used to be best mates with a ginger horse..?!?!
Dogs - either loves or hates

I bet you I could do a reading for someone and they would be convinced I was brilliant.

However, I DID get one out to one of my horses. She is now hopefully in a padded cell. What a load of tripe.

But I am still genuinely sitting on the fence over this.
 
Closed-minded sceptics have changed the definition of sceptic from 'one who doubts', to 'one who refuses to accept'.

Here are some famous quotes from closed-minded sceptics who gave Eddison a hard time when they refused to take his ideas seriously!

Sir William Preece, former chief engineer at the Post Office talking at the time of Eddison's claimed inventions. "The parallel circuit (Eddison's lamp) is a completely idiotic idea."

Prior to Eddison's demonstration of the electric light globe, Professor Henry Morton, Head of the Stevens Institute of Technology said, "On behalf of science … Eddison's experiments are … a fraud upon the public."

And a British Parliamentary Committee decided that his telephone proposal was, ".. good enough for our transatlantic friends ... but unworthy of the attention of practical or scientific men" whereas the French Academy of Sciences listened to a record made by Eddison and concluded "… clearly that is a case of ventriloquism."

If the rest of the world had taken notice of them, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

The world has two sorts of people in it, those who know and those who don't want to. The first group find their lives enriched by what they discover and the second will never know what they've missed.
 
guido16 said:
I am sitting on the fence with all of this.
BUT (apart from the terrier in the tub..)

if I was an AC going to see someones horse, I would talk about

Farrier - horse loves or hates
Vet - horse love or hates
fencing - scary
Jumping - likes it a bit, doesnt like certain jumps
How horsey loves mum
Sore back/neck/leg - had ill fitting saddle once upon a time....
Previous lameness - Find me a horse that has NEVER been lame
horsey buddy - used to be best mates with a ginger horse..?!?!
Dogs - either loves or hates

I bet you I could do a reading for someone and they would be convinced I was
brilliant.

However, I DID get one out to one of my horses. She is now hopefully in a padded cell. What a load of tripe.

But I am still genuinely sitting on the fence over this.
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I will take you up on this??? I'm being serious?? Iv got a horse who has certain issues which a ac across the other side off the country to me picked up on to a tee. No way she could have known so yep anybody who thinks they can do the same sort off TRUE Reading I got than please come forward and look forward to you taking the challenge up
 
Monsters said:
I will take you up on this??? I'm being serious?? Iv got a horse who has certain issues which a ac across the other side off the country to me picked up on to a tee. No way she could have known so yep anybody who thinks they can do the same sort off TRUE Reading I got than please come forward and look forward to you taking the challenge up
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You going to delete all your previous posts then? As we can already see a lot from them.
 
Eveyone have they own choses on what they belive in. Would you still like to see a horse that bucks,bolts,bites and barge you etc etc. Or one that calm and compelty chilled out I know which one I would chose as thats what I've got now.

I think the most inmporant sp? issue is the horse state of mind and isnt that what we all want the best for our four legged beasts to be happy with us and to let go of the pastd and be able to move on from it.

It should never be forced onto anyone on which way they go with their own horse. Yes there are some who claim to be more then what they are you get that in any kind of professly people. You will know what right for you.
 
I havent read through all the posts but thought I would share my experience.

I was always rather bemused by people who spoke of these types of readings, but my friend had one done on her unrideable (bought from sales) dangerous horse which turned his life around and I thought why the heck not.

I have had my mare for 10 years, bought as a 4 year old off people I knew so therefore know 99% of her life story. The communicator had a photo of Brambles face and that was it.

One of the big things she knew was that my horse has issues with canter and often trots behind and canters in front ut only on her right rein - something ive not seen many horses do at all.
She also told me what the issue was causing it and my physio later confirmed this to be true.
She knew that I tip to the right when riding , but only when riding this horse - and to which my horse told her it was due to a muscular issue of hers not my riding which again the physio confirmed.

The communicator told me my horse was worried as I always wear a brown leather shoulder bag on my right shoulder and that it would harm my back - again spot on i always have this bag on at the yard.

My horse told her she didnt like the "other farrier" as he doesnt do her feet short and round enough. You couldnt see her feet on the photo I sent. She has an "other farrier" when down at uni with me and he leaves her feet longer than the home farrier, who said the next time her came that her hoof pastern angle was out due to bad farriery.

My horse said she had had an issue with the trailer a year ago but is fine now (true) but my horse wanted me to remember she is lower in the trailer than a lorry so to stay slow.

She said I was more confident on this horse than any other , ever even though she can be quirky. She also said my horse said "I am like an adrenaline rush to ride, and when we jump we go in our own particular way - you cant ride any other horse to a fence like you do me" - SPOT on. She is very unique to jump and there is a very set way to ride her. I no longer get jumping lessons on her as instructers try to make me ride her in a certain way and it does not work on her.

Another scary thing was that she said my horse really wanted me to know that if i have a baby its ok by her, she doesnt mind. She was insistant that I knew this. Normally this wouldnt make much sense however a week before i rang the communicator i had gone through a pregnancy scare and the only person i told, i had told whilst in the stable with my horse.
There were lots of things like this and I cant see how the above stories could have been guessed?
 
Monsters said:
I will take you up on this??? I'm being serious?? Iv got a horse who has certain issues which a ac across the other side off the country to me picked up on to a tee. No way she could have known so yep anybody who thinks they can do the same sort off TRUE Reading I got than please come forward and look forward to you taking the challenge up
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As Kaylum has said, what is the point, I can just read all your posts.

I have actually just jumped off the fence now.

Think its all a load of pants.
 
JanetGeorge said:
Did the farrier know the AC? Or did the AC know the female farrier?

I would guess that the AC had to know you - or know someone who knew you - to approach you as a practice subject. It's amazing how much gossip goes around the horse world!:D I know a well known AC who many people think is the bee's knees! I also know the source of MUCH of her information about various people and their horses! Wierdly enough, I don't think SHE knows -I think she does genuinely believe she gets it from the horses!

I'm fascinated by the terrier though - did this come up through 'communicating' with the horse?? Why on EARTH did the horse bother mentioning it to her?:rolleyes:
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No, the farrier is long dead. Although the horse came from Yorkshire, it was not in an area local to us. I doubt very much if the AC knew the female farrier - they live in very different areas and I don't think that the female farrier is still working. The AC is much younger than me. The AC is NOT local to me and as far as I know had no information about the specific area that the horse came from. She was asking on the internet for 'subjects' my sister replied to her request and sent a photo. I will add that I was sceptical at the time but have been proved wrong.
I have no idea why the horse was interested in the dog in the barrel but she had 'spoken' to the AC about it on more than 1 occasion and we didn't understand what she meant. Then when sister asked for more detail she was told that the barrel was blue - that clarified the situation. The dog was in the yard in the barrel for a few weeks until the ground thawed at the end of last winter. The dog did often run into the horse's field, when she was alive, so maybe that had something o do with it. There have been a range of other things which have meant something specific to us but which could have been considered generic enough to have been said to any horse owner who might have said 'oh yes that was when .....' and would certainly not have convinced those who are doubting the veracity of the AC. IMO these 2 particular instances are very good evidence that this AC is genuine. I quite agree that the horseworld is very small and many people know something about many other people and their horses but in this case, I am convinced that the AC is indeed genuine. How it works, I do not know.
 
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I'm another believer. I had 3 readings done all at the same time from the same AC. She told me I had 3 questions I could ask her to ask each of them. I simply asked her to ask them if they were happy (didn't want to give anything away by asking about backs / legs / saddles, etc). She is not local to me (I live in Channel Islands) in fact I can't even remember where she is based. She charged me £10 per reading and I sent her 3 photographs.

Not everything she replied to me made sense but they were 3 very different readings and the majority did ring true (one thing that particularly stuck out was how one of mine loved his baths - you cannot say that about the other two, or indeed many horses). I did post them on a thread here somewhere, I won't repost again but am happy to find it and link to it should anyone wish to view it but she was pretty damn accurate.

I didn't do it for any particular reason, none of my horses had any issues and to me were completely happy, I was just interested in what came out of it and I was quite impressed with her work tbh.
 
Just had my first session with Jackie last night and she was very accurate. Seems like my horse doesn'tlike the name Dizzy and would like 'Sophie'. 'Sophie' feels she was abandoned by her last owner and finds it difficult to let go with her emotions. After an hour Sophie told Jackie that cuddles would be OK. And it was, this morning I couldn't finish the mucking out as Sophie wouldn't leave me alone, megga cuddles. No mizzy faces and a complete dream. Yes I was sceptical but after last night I highly recommend Jackie. And a very nice lady to boot!
 
joeley said:
Just had my first session with Jackie last night and she was very accurate. Seems like my horse doesn'tlike the name Dizzy and would like 'Sophie'. 'Sophie' feels she was abandoned by her last owner and finds it difficult to let go with her emotions. After an hour Sophie told Jackie that cuddles would be OK. And it was, this morning I couldn't finish the mucking out as Sophie wouldn't leave me alone, megga cuddles. No mizzy faces and a complete dream. Yes I was sceptical but after last night I highly recommend Jackie. And a very nice lady to boot!
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Could you let us know the details of the lady you used please. I may be interested in a reading am open minded about all this.
 
it's Jackie Weaver, google her, she's got a website. I've signed up to have a reading done since reading this post too :) can't wait - it's next Friday!!! will report :)
 
Thanks, will look in to it. Has anyone used Lesley Anderson? Have seen her website and wonder what people thoughts on her are please.
 
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AS suggested I have emailed two of these communicators. I asked about any refunds if they are unable to contact the animal or get any info. One hasn't bothered to reply although it has been a while and the other replied with a flat "no". I'm sure someone will say they know that I wouldn't believe them so don't want to do it :)
 
joeley said:
Just had my first session with Jackie last night and she was very accurate. Seems like my horse doesn'tlike the name Dizzy and would like 'Sophie'. 'Sophie' feels she was abandoned by her last owner and finds it difficult to let go with her emotions. After an hour Sophie told Jackie that cuddles would be OK. And it was, this morning I couldn't finish the mucking out as Sophie wouldn't leave me alone, megga cuddles. No mizzy faces and a complete dream. Yes I was sceptical but after last night I highly recommend Jackie. And a very nice lady to boot!
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OK but do you KNOW if any of it is true?
 
horsegirl read my post on the previous page, I too used Jackie Weaver. I would be interested to know how you would explain what she told me? (I'm not looking for an arguement just curious to how you think she would know these things, as I was as skeptical as you before the reading).
 
hannah87 said:
horsegirl read my post on the previous page, I too used Jackie Weaver. I would be interested to know how you would explain what she told me? (I'm not looking for an arguement just curious to how you think she would know these things, as I was as skeptical as you before the reading).
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OK read it yes there are a few things that sound correct but I think quite a lot was very general. What other things did she say that weren't correct?

I don't think I am going to believe it until I hear things that I know are accurate about my own horse.
 
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