Horse Communicators

I have never intentionally used one so I really can't comment.

I do, however, know several horsemen and women whom I have a great deal of respect for, who have used them and have not condemned communicators as talking total codswallop so ... maybe there is something to it.

The only experience I have had was uninvited, someone from a 'relaxation and spiritual healing' centre came to see a horse of mine with a view to purchasing him for their programme (I don't have a problem with that, interaction with the right minded horses can be very soothing/healing) She didn't want him, but told me that he told her that he 'deserved a better home'

Well :( that went down like a lead balloon. I was left feeling somewhat insulted to be honest. Was it the horse saying that he didn't appreciate me rescuing him from the kill pens at 3 months old, or the woman having a dig at me? Who knows, I know that the horse didn't want for anything - physically. Mentally - maybe he wanted to be on TV !

I am open minded enough to think that communication is possible, but sceptical enough to want complete proof, unfortunately I am too tight to pay $100 to maybe hear a bunch of baloney gleaned from the social media, and as someone mentioned, it is easy enough to find something to say if you look hard enough.
 
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I think I communicate very well with my boy. Talk and whisper lol to him all the time. The change since he's been on our field in our care has been amazing - not a bad bone in his body. He's treated with love, well looked after so does that make me a 'horse whisperer' - I don't know just know I feel 'tuned' in to him if that makes sense . I know for a fact if he was showing any signs of unhappiness I'd know. Don't need to pay silly ££££ to tell me so!

A fool and his money is often parted !
 
Enfys - I thought that I was the only one who had an unsolicited reading from an AC that worked at a 'relaxation and spiritual healing' centre. Mine was very inaccurate in her reading, so tried to recruit me as a Forever Living salesperson instead (which ties in nicely with a recent thread on here).
 
Caramac71 said:
I think it's so wrong to ridicule someone else's opinion. Personally I dont believe in God, I would love to believe there is a God as I think it must be very comforting to have faith, but I find myself questioning everything I've ever learnt about religion. However, there are many millions of people who do believe in a God and totally trust their religious beliefs. Should I mock them? Of course not!
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I agree mocking is wrong because it is unnecessarily hurtful (or can be). However, I don't think one should assume that all questioning and expression of scepticism shows an intention to mock. I strongly believe claims of 'animal communication' should be questioned, along with any other extraordinary claims requiring extraordinary evidence (to use Carl Sagan's phrase).
 
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Landcruiser said:
I used one about 5 years ago. She was a work coleague of a friend, who had told her nothing (purposely) about me of my horses. This woman was a hobby communicator of dogs and cats - she knew nothing about horses whatsoever and had never attempted to communicate with them before. She didn't even charge me petrol money, did it for her own interest.

I'm a scientist and a sceptic. She blew me away. She got NOTHING from my one horse - who at the time was closed down, didn't trust anyone, and was in the hapit of saying "Nah." to mayy requests.

My other lad, who I'd not long bought, was fascinating. Many things she couldn't have known, including some startling specifics. She said "He misses the cat..."
When I had picked him up, there was a hollow in the shavings in the corner of his stable. I asked about it, and was told that the yard cat slept there with him every night. Nobody knew this but me, I hadn't mentioned it to anyone (and the sellers of the horse were strangers many miles away). She also said she could see something on the wall that went round and round, and that he missed that too and liked to play with it. That would have been the spinny "Lickit" ball attached to the wall of his box then. That I also had no cause to mention to anyone. There was a load more, 2 sides of A4 she later sent to me. Utterly fascinating.

As a PS to this, just recently another friend tracked her down to communicate with a problem mare, and she's STILL not taking any payment, and she's still bang on. So she's not a money grabbing charletan, and there's something strange going on there...
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I had a chap come and see my mare, and what he told me about her was fascinating and very accurate about her character and her bodily failings - I effectively won his visit as he was originally planning to have a film crew with him when he was visiting horses for a pilot programme. As it turned out the film crew requested a 1 week delay but he still honoured his visit - I think he did 4 horses per day over a long weekend and we were just asked for £5 to contribute to his campervan petrol costs (considering he was coming up from Epsom and we were in North Cheshire and the other horses were north of us, I don't think he exactly fleeced us). I looked him up a bit and it turned out that he was a regular visitor to a particular horse rescue centre where he would come to try to find out what was going on with the new inmates if they were showing signs of problems - he did that for free too.
 
The reason I'm sceptical is because I saw a communicator at Your Horse Live last year. Yes she talked well, told us all about her success stories etc and that anyone of us could do it if we were tuned in enough but failed to exactly explain how etc. just felt we hadn't really learned anything . Just get the feeling there are some unscrupulous people out there playing on people's emotions hoping to make a fast buck! Sorry just my opinion
 
I spoke to her very briefly again, she said that she felt much better, that her kidneys and head we were feeling better.
I have been giving her cayenne pepper (who knew a horse would eat that!), and dandelion tea as advised by her, and she said it has really started helping.
I don't know, she did jump by well on Monday, and I am jumping at Pyecombe tomorrow, so will see how she goes.
I will pm you the name, as I don't want to put it on here as I have been a bit critical.
 
Princess16 said:
The reason I'm sceptical is because I saw a communicator at Your Horse Live last year. Yes she talked well, told us all about her success stories etc and that anyone of us could do it if we were tuned in enough but failed to exactly explain how etc. just felt we hadn't really learned anything . Just get the feeling there are some unscrupulous people out there playing on people's emotions hoping to make a fast buck! Sorry just my opinion
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But that is actually true of everything in life! Look at the way they advertise cars. The fact that they do 20 to the gallon, cost a fortune to insure and the only dealership who can do certain repairs is 300 miles from you is never mentioned. They sell on the basis of charming you with the success stories, the things you want to hear. Or the stuff you see on the shopping channels. They make fantastic claims and lure you in with special TV only offers. But do a quick Google search for reviews and you will find how many people have been well and truely suckered in and now find a. it doesn't work, and b. the money back guarantee is worthless. I think the best example of this the raspberry ketone supplement which apparently just melts the fat off you. Well it melts the fat off your wallet, that's for sure, and the internet forums are stuffed the gunwales with complaints about them but still more people fall for it every single day.
 
I'd love to encounter one that could indicate that there's something to it. I remain open minded.

As kind of an experiment, I got readings from two (who were at the lower end of the price scale, because yeah). When you've had a horse for well over a decade, you know everything about it anyway, so I thought it was a good experiment. Both cold readings from a photo: I'd stood the horse up in the barn aisle and taken a side on picture.

They said a lot of stuff that was ambiguous enough to apply to most people's horses. They said a few things that were approaching accurate. And they said a few things that were not. One said my horse's neighbor, a grey Connie, reminded her of her mother, who would have been a bay TB. Okay, Dr. Freud.
 
chestnut cob said:
This, 100%. A friend of mine uses a communicator mentioned on this thread already. Raves about how "amazing" it is that this person can know so many things without her telling her. She doesn't seem to make the link that they are FB friends so she can see everything (which is a lot!) said friend posts on FB...
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Oh dear!!!
 
All communicators use cold reading- that's why they talk to you as they examine the horse. They don't examine the horse and then give a report do they! That's because they need to cold read the owner.

Think about it- if you ask a general question like "oh your horse is missing someone- another horse he used to live with?" Well nearly all horses used to live with a different horse. Then the owner will say "oh yeah he used to live with clover" and you can just guess that the name clover was probably a family pony rather than a flashy warmblood so you just say "oh yeah Clover- do you mean like the small Shetland? I'm getting a native type" and even if Clover was a warmblood, you can just apologise and say "no he's missing the native" and as most horses will have lived with a native, the owner will say "oh er there was a Shetland two fields over for a month" and you say well they were really good friends and there owner will think it's amazing you knew there used to be a Shetland two fields over. Or if they say "oh yeah Clover was a Dartmoor!" And you say "yeah a Dartmoor" (they'll have forgotten you originally said Shetland) and picking up on the past tense you then make a guess he was pts and before you know it you're amazing for knowing about Clover the Dartmoor being put down.

It's like with the cat example given above, bet there's a cat round most livery yards. Certainly round mine, for the mice. And notice the communicator never said "oh the horse misses the cat who used to sleep in the corner of his stable" just he "misses the cat' and it was the owner who said oh that must be the cat in his stable that's amazing how did the communicator know that. Well at no point did the communicator actually say that...

The ironic thing is those people who believe it are more likely to enthusiastically join in and be more easily read so get good readings, and the sceptical, who are more likely to not say anything, are harder to read and so when they don't get good results, the communicator can claim the scepticism ruined the vibe!

In any case, communicators still get paid whether they are wrong or right so you can just say anything really! And cold reading is quite a skill so I'd probably pay just to see someone do it well!
 
The Tank said:
Who's used them and what do you make of them ��
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I can recommend Sara Coppin who is a reiki lady and horse whisperer. She came out to our yard years ago when I had my present horse about four years. I'd lost four horses in the previous seven years and was desperate to find out if Bailey was going to stay around, as I'd failed to bond with him because I was scared of losing him. She gave me a lot of encouragement and told me he woudl be around for many years to come. She also said she had made contact with my previous horse who I had to have pts and also a previous much loved horse who had died very suddenly.

She told me lots of things she could have found out from judging the horses temperment/physique, but then she told me things that she could not have possibly known, that weren't broadcast around the yard or on facebook/h&h forum.

Some of the stuff she told me like I'd recently stopped feeding my horse a particular supplement with a burgundy lid (how the hell did she know that??!) and also that she told me my cat was running round the stable. We had lost a cat about twenty years before and she confirmed the sex and colour of the cat!

Many years later my partner has lost his dog and he put something on fb about it. Another whisperer happened to be on the yard doing a reading for a friends horse and said something to me about the dog which she'd seen running up the yard. However my partner and I were slightly sceptical as Candy had never spent much time at the yard during the years I'd been there so why the lady had seen her was weird to me. She knew my partner and was could see his FB posts.

It did make me think about some things that are read on social media and might be picked up as clues. Not dissing Sarah Coppin in anyway but it still makes me wonder.
 
peanut said:
This is very sad but I can well believe it to be true as I have followed many of the AC threads. I have used two communicators for my horse.

Totally agree with paragraph two. People are too quick to dismiss things they don't understand.
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Agree wholeheartedly.
 
I did have one done once, just out of curiosity. It cost me about the price of a night out at the cinema, and provided nearly as much entertainment.
It was done remotely and was part accurate, part wrong. What I enjoyed about it the most was the 'flavour' of my pony's pronouncements, it was a bit like reading Silver Snaffles where Tattles the pony talks a LOT :)
 
I think that's a good point about cold readings, but what about those done over phone? The ones where a particular ailment or injury was picked up, that the vet later confirmed, stuff that was not on social media.

The other thing that was with Anne Dee, when she was with my horse - my horse reacted very strange, looked as if she listened, or talked, etc - stuff that she didnt normally do or has done since, not like the usual 'saying hello to people' or so. Hard to describe but for her, something definitely went on.
 
peanut said:
People are too quick to dismiss things they don't understand.
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On the other hand, it may be the case that some people understand well enough to come to the conclusion that there's nothing paranormal going on in animal communication and that it's all down to human psychology - that of the 'communicator' and the client. I am very willing to examine good evidence to the contrary. My mind remains open - but not, as the quip goes, so open my brain falls out (meant in a humorous and not intentionally mocking way). The evidence had better be watertight though; I'm afraid that personal testimonials aren't enough by themselves.
 
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Sgathach said:
I think that's a good point about cold readings, but what about those done over phone? The ones where a particular ailment or injury was picked up, that the vet later confirmed, stuff that was not on social media.
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In the case of genuinely non-communicated 'hits', there needs to be a way to factor out coincidences.
 
Caol Ila said:
LOL, I wonder how that actually works out.

"Your Honor, I went to the psychic and he said that he had a seance with the victim, and the perpetrator had a handlebar mustache and a red hat. Mr. X has a handlebar mustache and a red hat. Can we get a search warrant for his apartment, please?"

Ooookay.

Or worse, in court.

"How did you identify Mr. X as the perpetrator?"
"I went to the psychic and he communed with the deceased, and he was told Mr. X was the perp."

I don't think parapsychology (as this stuff is broadly called) quite attains the standard required for scientific testimony admissable in court.
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Don't be ridiculous!
 
I've read the thread and tbh I'm amazed at how some people are taken in. Have none of you watched Derren Brown? I bet he could do the most amazing horse whispering!
I also know someone who does this sort of thing, totally deluded, awash in self belief, and as psychic as a brick! I have no doubt that his clients think he tells them wonderful things but frankly, I fell about laughing! The only good thing is that most of these people are so taken with their own whimsical wonderfullness that they don't charge very much.
On a lighter note - do horses think in English? And do they know what kidneys are?
 
Sgathach said:
I think that's a good point about cold readings, but what about those done over phone? The ones where a particular ailment or injury was picked up, that the vet later confirmed, stuff that was not on social media.

The other thing that was with Anne Dee, when she was with my horse - my horse reacted very strange, looked as if she listened, or talked, etc - stuff that she didnt normally do or has done since, not like the usual 'saying hello to people' or so. Hard to describe but for her, something definitely went on.
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I found that with Anne too, and then she said "she's really starting to relax now", at which point z got down and rolled right next to me, something she's never done prior or since.
 
I've absolutely no problem at all with people spending their money on what they want or believing or not believing in communicators/horse whisperers but what I don't understand is the point of it. So the horse says he's missing the yard cat at his last yard, or lies down next to his owner etc I'm not really sure what that achieves. If a communicator picks up an illness or injury missed by the vet, then I'd think you need to change to a better vet. I also don't understand how a horse would know what was wrong with him. If I have a pain in my leg, then I limp but I don't know if it's a strain, a blood clot or perhaps arthritis. That's why I go to the doctor. Can horses self diagnose? Personally I'd rather understand my horse by my own observations, learning as much as I can about his history and having good relationships with my vet, farrier, trainer and physio, but each to his/her own!
 
I've used one recently, as I was considering some major horsey life changes and wondered if cob had anything to say about it!

There were several things that the woman said that she could not have known. My Facebook is locked down, she didn't even have my name as I booked her by text.

Firstly, she told me that she could see my horse's action through my eyes but couldn't see me aboard her. She then told me that the cob wanted me to ride her (I don't ride her). She told me that she was incredibly happy to have a 'Mum', as she had always been someone's 'temp/second' horse, this completely fits with the info I had on her and the fact that she's a complete superstar yet had four homes in 10 years.

I had been considering what to do with her when I came to retire her and had been looking at herd retirement - with no prompting she told me that Cob wouldn't want to live out in a herd when it came to retirement and she would rather stay as she is and be with me.

The lady told me that she was a solitary horse and preferred her own company - but would take a pony as a companion (exactly right). She also knew about her sticky left hind without having seen her move. She told me that she didn't like being clipped and was a particular pain with her front right as she was once very sore there on the back of her legs.

The lady knew I had a sharer and at one stage had two.

There was just too much that was right for it not to be true and overall I feel comforted to know that she's happy to be with me. The lady said that we were equals and basically the same 'person', this is something that I have said all along and it really made me laugh.
It was worth £40 and I'll try someone else next time to test it out :) I have nothing away during the hour, to the point that I felt rude for not responding to anything that the woman said.
 
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An interesting thing I picked up on earlier in the thread, are all of you who don't believe in animal communicators atheists? I am an atheist and don't believe in communicators but I do believe in astute people who can pick up on body language and emotions (horse and owner). I had a psychic type lady come out to see mine a couple of weeks ago as I'm getting desperate. (Free of charge, donation direct to charity only). A lot of what she said was rubbish in my opinion, but she did also say that my quietly grazing horse was very anxious and that I have to calm my own anxiety and energy to help him deal with his. I have no doubt she got that from how anxious I probably look when I watch him and the fact that I'm quite a hyper person. I don't think that's a psychic ability but an awareness of your surroundings and yes someone telling me that reinforces it in my mind so possibly is helpful.

She did also mention about a fringe (she is not horsey she meant forelock) and then the fringe being swept aside. after that I moved his forelock, saw his big bulging temporalis muscles and started a conversation on a Facebook page about head pain, got the vet and osteocranial person out and have started to get to the bottom of what I think is serious head pain. Doesn't mean she diagnosed anything as she never mentioned he was in pain, but it was an interesting comment in retrospect!

More than anything she was s nice lady who took the time to chat and gave me some tips on focussing my own anxiety so that I could be quieter and more zen like around my horse. So I was happy with that.
 
I have an open mind same as with any psychic. I genuinely think there are a handful of people who can do this and a vast number of charlatans. I did see a programme and a communicator was used when an owner had a real issue with her horse being in a stable. She didn't have the choice of having him live out as her livery options were limited. Normal training hadn't worked. The communicator came with a lot of information the owner didn't know (but was then able to back track and prove). However, the communicator did also say, while she could resolve the issue temporarily so horse would walk in and out, stay out happily, she also said it was very deep rooted and horse would very likely revert when stressed. Her suggestion was..go all out to find a field with company and a shelter and keep your horse happy.!
 
KatPT said:
I am an atheist and don't believe in communicators but I do believe in astute people who can pick up on body language and emotions (horse and owner).
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That's where I stand on this.

The lady that inaccurately read my horses had observed a lot of damage to the stables, but she hadn't realised that the damage was caused by previous horses and that mine live out. I do think that a lot of what she said was pertinent to the former occupants of the stables, but she wasn't communicating with them, unless it was from the grave as at least one is long dead (I know where's it's buried).
 
I think I have posted this before, but will do again. There has been a fair bit of research done on human " right brain to right brain" communication between babies and their primary care givers. (Attachment theory, the psycho neurological work done by a dutch team) this has shown a direct method of brain to brain communication. This work has been done in relation to the impact on the brain of childhood trauma. Working with adults who have suffered severe childhood trauma, I have had the privilege of "seeing" the places where the trauma occurred, before the client has told me that part of their story. I cannot prove this to you, or offer double blind trials, but I know it to be true, so I am willing to believe that others may have that facility with other animals, whose communication methods are not fully understood by humans.
 
Rapidash said:
All communicators use cold reading- that's why they talk to you as they examine the horse. They don't examine the horse and then give a report do they! That's because they need to cold read the owner.
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I am afraid that you are wrong there, they don't all. Not all ACs visit the animal, or talk to the owner, either on the phone or by email. I know of at least one who simply asks for a photo of the horse and either the owner's address/email - no further info. After the communication session, a written report is sent. And I should point out that not all of us share every detail of our lives on the internet.
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