Horse damaging our stuff!

as others have said old head collar for turnout and keep your pricey ones for your personal use.

Get a couple of old/second hand no fill turnouts to go over the top and smoother them in cribox or no chew or anything else that tastes horrible.

Your horse obviously doesn't dislike the naughty one as they are in touching distance enough for her rug to get ripped.

My lot are always playing rough and I'm often finding rugs ripped etc. It's horses - I don't think there is an awful lot more you can do. sounds like he's bored and the owner isn't doing a lot to keep his mind busy.
 
Agree about him being under stimulated, the owner goes through phases of giving him toys/company where she can but then stops. I do feel for her it can't be easy having a tricky horse!

So the issue is the electric is just a strip across the field, its not really connected to anything...the whole paddock has a electric topper on the post and rail and that tape has been broken for months..so to get it all working again they need to repair the rest of the circuit if that makes sense?

I have told YO each time but she isn't very proactive...I will spray that stuff on the rugs and headcollars as suggested and keep on about the fence. Paying a lot for full livery so am loathed to pay for fencing too now...I can't really do much re headcollars as they won't take them back to the yard for us, they leave them on or near the fence for their convenience. I've got a cheapy headcollar coming too.

In theory they should be moving to summer fields soon so I'm hoping the gelding is moved to another location...we shall see! Thanks for the suggestions!
 
My rising 2 year old is going through a very playful stage and has been for the last few months.

I always offer to pay for anything he's damaged and currently I'm smothering stuff in anti crib liquid to deter him from playing with it. He's in a herd with 3 other horses who will play with him from time to time, and I also provide toys for him and puzzle games to play when stabled.

I understand things are different as I'm on DIY livery whereas you are on full livery but I've thought of the following ideas if they're any help? :

1) Approach the livery who owns the horse who is destroying your stuff. Let them know how much it has cost you to replace so far. Ask the livery if they have any suggestions as how to stop any more things getting damaged as it is becoming quite costly and you don't think it fair that you should have to replace what her horse has damaged (I'd be careful with this as unless you have undeniable evidence that it is her horse causing the damage things could turn very bad very fast - apologies if you've already said about having concrete proof that it is her horse!)

2) Approach the YO and explain how you are needing the electric fencing fixed ASAP, as this is becoming a problem and it's costing you a fortune to replace the stuff (might be worth mentioning about how you will potentially look at recovering the costs of replacing the damaged things by potentially deducting it from livery - word of warning though - be VERY careful if you choose this method as it could end badly, but you could use this method to call their bluff and get them to finally fix the fencing. I know a friend who has called her YO's bluff by using this method but also have heard stories of it going extremely wrong, so I'd only advise this method if you are truly at your wits end and are willing to consider a move if things go sour after the conversation!)

3) Approach the YO and explain that the horse who is causing the damage, has the potential to really hurt themselves/other horses if the fencing that they are playing over breaks and causes an injury to either horse involved - might be the incentive the YO needs to fix the fencing as no one likes horses being hurt - it also wouldn't look good on the YO having a horse injured that could have easily been prevented or stopped entirely by a simple fencing fix.

4) Approach the YO and ask if you could erect temporary fencing inside the current field boundaries to stop the destruction of items happening until the electric fencing is fixed (I know you're really not wanting to pay out for fencing, but it is always in demand so you could always sell it after you're finished with it and recoup your costs or keep it as a backup if ever needed again?)

5) Ask the yard staff if they can pop the headcollars far enough away from the horse who is destroying the stuff, but still have it so that they're in easy reach for them (i.e on the ground outside the gate to the field, set slightly off to the side so that they're not hanging on anything that they can be grabbed off)

xxx
 
If it were me I would send a bill for replacement items everytime something was damaged. That might focus the mind. I would tell them in advance that this is what I would do. Unreasonable and frankly unacceptable that you need to foot endless bills for someone else.
 
Having had a horse that was the rug ripper there's not much the owner can do. Ours was not under stimulated but just playful and mouthy with things.
People did moan but it was a stable gelding herd in big fields with grass/hay coming in at night. He was ridden most days, competed and hacked. He was a lovely boy but liked grabbing rugs.
Staff should not leave stuff lying where he can get them but apart from separating him what else can be done?
Ours once reached over a post and rail fence and picked up one of the minis in the next field by its rug😬.
Why a mini Shetland needed a rug is another matter😂. No one was injured but they were separated by electric too after that!
 
I’d completely state you do not want him in with your horses u see any circumstances due to the damage. Our friesian is like this and unfortunately he has to go on his own as it’s just too expensive to fix. A good idea is to rub a chilli over your rugs where he usually bites - he won’t do it again…!
 
I don’t think I’m going to get very far with the YO, she’s disputing that it’s this horse causing the damage despite evidence to the contrary! She accepts it probably is him but says she’s never seen it happen…she literally said “ok well…” she’s not interested frankly. Ill have to keep an eye on it and record all the damage and hopefully the nagging will result in her fixing the fence but it won’t stop him getting the headcollars while they keep them so close to the gates.

I’m not really blaming the owner, she can’t stop it really it’s just annoying and reinforces why I’m sick of being at livery! Oh for my own place! A 3 acre field actually is for sale in my village but it’s on for £200k so that’s a nope! 👎 Argh!!
 
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