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Last year I attended the GUID NYCHBURRIS cornets chases at park farm Dumfries,Scotland.A horse in a nearby horsebox was kicking heavily and trying to draw attention to itself..it was clear that this was a case of a horse that was in some distress yet no one seemed to be checking the horse..a few minutes later the horse had clearly lost its mind and somehow managed to kick its way out of the lorrybox up through the rear half closed doors.people nearbt were now panicking as the horse was now hanging from its tether that was still attached to the inside and was kicking out to try and free itself,at this stage it was to dangerous for anyone to go close??sadly with its severe distress it broke one of its rear legs and had now collapsed in agony...this as you can imagine was very distressing for all to witness and we were futher conserned to learn that NO VET was in attendance at this event..it tokk half an hour to summon avet who put the horse to sleep via injection..I reported the incident to the authoritysand the police claim that it was acase of a spooked horse who had earlier thrown its rider and was put into its box..I learned that it was hired horse..but no action was taken on the people responsible for the horse..surely if someone checked to see what was wrong this may never have happened..Hopefully this incident will bring in new measures regarding VET ATTENDANCE at these events..as from I have witnessed they are indde an accident waiting to happen
 
Terrible story and so sorry for the horse involved but I am sure this is a tragic and isolated case . I am not sure I think Vets should be everywhere a "possible" accident could happen to a horse. Where would this end? would there be vets stationed at interval segments of Bridle paths? Surely accidents can happen there too????? so and and so forth
 
Not sure what a cornet chase is...

BE events and point to points/racing under rules all require vets to be present. PtoPs require 3 vets, BE events need at least one (at least Winkleigh which I went to with my OH had only one) and they have to stay until all horses have left. Otherwise from what I can tell, local vets are "on call" to attend any events in their area so they may well be covering unaff horse trials and show jumping events on their patch while also doing their normal on call.
 
While this was tragic and I can't say the onlookers were blameless, someone should have acted before that happened, regardless whether the owner/rider had been there or not IMHO; it does sound like you want to blame the organisers when it was clearly nothing to do with them; they hadn't put the upset horse on the wagon (at least you didn't say they had). As someone mentioned before, it could well have been that the local vets were on call to this event, but they could also have been covering something else as well as their normal practise work. I don't know whereabouts this happened, how isolated it is or whether you have many vets up that way but they can only spread themselves so thinly; they can't be in too many places at once. Unless Cornet Chases stated there would be a vet on site, it's no use getting your knickers in a twist because there wasn't a vet there, however regrettable the circumstances.
Accidents happen anywhere with horses, not just at events; it's up to you to be happy with the conditions an event is held in; if you're not happy - and that includes no vet on duty - then don't enter, simple as that.
 
i live in Dumfries and obviously this story was all over. i wasn't there but from what i heard, it was a horse who got itself very worked up and was out of character. this incident could have happened anywhere.
the cornets chase, and the whole guid nychburris festival is normally well organised and goes without hitch.
the horse love the ride outs and whilst there can be injuries, there can be injuries in all horse related sports.
i don't think the vet should be there, but i do think they could have a vet on call in case of an accident.
 
Many thanks for your feedback on this issue,To reply to further issues raised from the forum.Thoes of us close by did what we could but the owner/carer arrived and took control of the situation..as spectators it would have been unsafe to open the box so the responsibity fell on the carer/owner.At this event there must have been 150+ horses and some take part in a race known as the cornets chases..these are somewhat an accident waiting to happen as there is alcohol freely consumed by some of the participants..and this together with unexperienced riders some only having the few riding lessons and the use of hired horses is indeed an accident waiting to happen.The accident was reported to BHS,ILPH,SSPCA all of whom agreed that a vet should have been in attendance not only in case of accident ..but also to act as inspector of horses taking part in the chases and rideouts and report any cases of horses deemed unfit for the chase/rideout
 
From your post I rather get the impression that this dreadful accident is being used as fodder for you to try and have this event stopped rather than call for vet assistance to be on site??

Sorry if Im getting the wrong message.
 
The horse behaved badly, hurt itself and we are meant to be sorry why?

I am an advocate for horses learning good manners!
 
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Many thanks for your feedback on this issue,To reply to further issues raised from the forum.Thoes of us close by did what we could

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but the owner/carer arrived and took control of the situation..as spectators it would have been unsafe to open the box so the responsibity fell on the carer/owner. At this event there must have been 150+ horses and some take part in a race known as the cornets chases..these are somewhat an accident waiting to happen as there is alcohol freely consumed by some of the participants..and this together with unexperienced riders some only having the few riding lessons and the use of hired horses is indeed an accident waiting to happen.The accident was reported to BHS,ILPH,SSPCA all of whom agreed that a vet should have been in attendance not only in case of accident ..but also to act as inspector of horses taking part in the chases and rideouts and report any cases of horses deemed unfit for the chase/rideout

[/ QUOTE ] So if the problems are caused by the alcohol having been drunk and the inexperienced riders what the heck was a VET going to do - unless the horses were pished? And what has that to do with the incident involving the horse in the lorry? Or are you trying to say the carers of the dead horse were drunk?
 
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So if the problems are caused by the alcohol having been drunk and the inexperienced riders what the heck was a VET going to do -

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Vets poses the grea ability to consume a lot of alcohol, they woulc feasibly single handedly reduce the level of intoxication at an event like this.
 
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The horse behaved badly, hurt itself and we are meant to be sorry why?

I am an advocate for horses learning good manners!

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I honestly dont understand your values here?! Some have no feelings?
I was recently involved in an incodent where by a friends horse got his head cought in her lorry, and he littarally hung himself. No veternary assistance was in attendance of the event, despite the fact it was a hunter trail. Two vets however, were called, and mystyriosly both were cancelled. The horse in question died before he could be treated.
How can you anyone just put such a thing down to 'horses learning good manners'. Accidents happen no matter how well behaved your horse happens to be. Its a matter of fact. All we can do is learn from them, and try to aviod those we can.
 
Thankyou all for your welcome feedback.The organisers of these parades/ridout/chases accept no liability for accidents and it up to horse owners to have adequate insurance cover.DEFRA are making progress in giving local authoritys the power to issue a code of conduct in regards to health and safety issues for both horse and rider..this would hopefully cover areas of concern ie Hiring of horses for such events,vet attendance,etc..If these evnts are to contiue they must be run properly ..or not at all??
 
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