polyphonic
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why doesnt some put put the pic of the scum bastard who did this?
HORSE DROWNED BY THUG
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tw1nn1ejo
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That is awful. Poor, poor horse. RIP
kayleigh_and_rocky
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I cried SO much reading that
poor POOR defenseless animal, BASTARD man i hope he is found and drowned.
katherinef
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angry is not the word I am feeling right now. And whether justified or not most of the anger is at the useless sodding RSPCA. not so much they didn't intervene but more that they are "considering" if any criminal action should be taken.
fionab
Member
I just cannot understand what the rspca inspectors were doing...that horse couldn't breathe before it went in the water with that damn rope round it's nose.
RachelMcTimoney
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see my reply in admin post if interested i so angry i can't write it again, and i cannot understand why anyone can defend some of the people who attend this fair it sickens me
Moggy in Manolos
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it is a tragedy, horses just dont need to be forced under the water like that, poor animal, that guy is scum and i hope he suffers for what he did to that poor defenseless animal
heathertrezise
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I have written to the organisers. I have never been so disgusted. The poor animal was not just ducked under. He was held down with all the weight of the thug.I was standing on the bridge. The RSCCA were immediately opposite i.e. approx 30feet away on the bank with no steep edge, just able to walk down into the water. The police were also close The river was opened again later in the day apparently for the animals welfare. The animals welfare would be best served by stopping a cruel yearly event. Please everyone make a real fuss to stop it.
fionab
Member
Interesting to hear from someone who actually witnessed it. It sounds even more horrific. I cant believe the rspca were so close and allowed this animal into the water with a rope round it's nose in the first place. Something has to be done. I have written to the organisers and I will also be writing to the rspca who, as a supporter of them, I am very disappointed in.
Fantasy_World
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Mrs L that was a very good and informed post and I have nothing against travellers or the Appleby fair.
I know of several nice gypsies who are local to me. One deals in horses and is a nice bloke and while I may not always agree with his idea of horse husbandry he does seem to genuinely care about his horses.
Our JR also came from the same gyspy site too and she is a really sweet dog.
I would love to go to the fair one year. Just to see the horses mainly and also because the traditional gyspy life interests me but it could be because although English I have a lot of Irish blood in me lol.
What I do deplore though is animals being exploited. Images of horses being whipped up and down lanes to the point of fear and sheer exhaustion is not a display of horsemanship nor the behaviour you would expect from people who truly care about their animals.
That said though I have never attended the fair so cannot comment on a true representation of the event as my intepretation is born from seeing images/videos in the media. Depending on the source of the material careful editing could portray events quite differently from how they actually happened. I would like to go to the fair to make up my own mind to be honest.
I have a lot of time for people who support worthwhile traditions and those that care for animals too, especially horses.
The few that do not have those qualities can quite frankly go to hell in my opinion and I would not be able to bite my tongue nor hold any punches if I witnessed such cruelty taking place.
I can be a risk taker and have little faith with the justice system or the even worse animal welfare (RSPCA) care we have. I would much rather matters be taken in hand at the time than wait and see if any prosecutions would result.
Sadly in the case of the drowned horse I fear nothing will happen.
If they even catch those responsible an excuse will be made and the CPS will probably make sure the case never sees the light of day, despite public pressure.
'Today's headlines are tomorrow's rubbish' or something like that we were taught in journalism.
This case like so many others will be simply forgotten about by the media and public.
This horse could have been saved if people had acted quickly enough.
Sadly most people are like sheep.
Don't mean that horribly but look when there is an accident or whatever. They crowd around, stare and utter a few words etc. But very few if any of the crowd will step in to help.
This man/lad was supposedly told repeatedly to take the horse out of the water according to the press.
Maybe if a few had been brave enough to go in and get him off the horse the animal would still be alive today.
The reason it drowned so quickly was that it was petrified.
As soon as its head went under that water, the water filled its lungs as it panicked.
I do not believe the horse suffered a quick death.
That animal suffered for every moment up to its death.
The suffering started as soon as it was put in a situation it was fearful of.
The horse's death started then in my opinion and not when its head went under the water.
A very sad event and one that was completely avoidable had people had the gumption to step in.
Not least the police and RSPCA inspectors who were present at the time.
I thought the latter's job included helping animals who are suffering. Well this horse was so where was the bloody help?
Sorry makes my blood boil !
No I don't feel angry towards the travelling community nor the event organisers but just to those that exploit and cruelly treat animals in that way.
I sincerely hope the lad/man gets his just desserts I really do !
Caz
I know of several nice gypsies who are local to me. One deals in horses and is a nice bloke and while I may not always agree with his idea of horse husbandry he does seem to genuinely care about his horses.
Our JR also came from the same gyspy site too and she is a really sweet dog.
I would love to go to the fair one year. Just to see the horses mainly and also because the traditional gyspy life interests me but it could be because although English I have a lot of Irish blood in me lol.
What I do deplore though is animals being exploited. Images of horses being whipped up and down lanes to the point of fear and sheer exhaustion is not a display of horsemanship nor the behaviour you would expect from people who truly care about their animals.
That said though I have never attended the fair so cannot comment on a true representation of the event as my intepretation is born from seeing images/videos in the media. Depending on the source of the material careful editing could portray events quite differently from how they actually happened. I would like to go to the fair to make up my own mind to be honest.
I have a lot of time for people who support worthwhile traditions and those that care for animals too, especially horses.
The few that do not have those qualities can quite frankly go to hell in my opinion and I would not be able to bite my tongue nor hold any punches if I witnessed such cruelty taking place.
I can be a risk taker and have little faith with the justice system or the even worse animal welfare (RSPCA) care we have. I would much rather matters be taken in hand at the time than wait and see if any prosecutions would result.
Sadly in the case of the drowned horse I fear nothing will happen.
If they even catch those responsible an excuse will be made and the CPS will probably make sure the case never sees the light of day, despite public pressure.
'Today's headlines are tomorrow's rubbish' or something like that we were taught in journalism.
This case like so many others will be simply forgotten about by the media and public.
This horse could have been saved if people had acted quickly enough.
Sadly most people are like sheep.
Don't mean that horribly but look when there is an accident or whatever. They crowd around, stare and utter a few words etc. But very few if any of the crowd will step in to help.
This man/lad was supposedly told repeatedly to take the horse out of the water according to the press.
Maybe if a few had been brave enough to go in and get him off the horse the animal would still be alive today.
The reason it drowned so quickly was that it was petrified.
As soon as its head went under that water, the water filled its lungs as it panicked.
I do not believe the horse suffered a quick death.
That animal suffered for every moment up to its death.
The suffering started as soon as it was put in a situation it was fearful of.
The horse's death started then in my opinion and not when its head went under the water.
A very sad event and one that was completely avoidable had people had the gumption to step in.
Not least the police and RSPCA inspectors who were present at the time.
I thought the latter's job included helping animals who are suffering. Well this horse was so where was the bloody help?
Sorry makes my blood boil !
No I don't feel angry towards the travelling community nor the event organisers but just to those that exploit and cruelly treat animals in that way.
I sincerely hope the lad/man gets his just desserts I really do !
Caz
herondell
Well-Known Member
Sadly, there are idiots everywhere, and it seems the traveller community has its fair share.
thats not nice my partner is a romany gypsy and goes to appleby every year and the horses up there a lovely the coloured cobs well i have seen some of his friends cobs and one was sold for £70,000 he is in ireland now he is a stunning stallion and thats what they offered for him and he was very well looked after a lot of the romany gypsys horses are more what i can say of some of them in some livery yards there is good and bad in all and my partners horses are well looked after,to say the fair should be stopped well i think is unfair while you are at it ask for some of ther top dressage yards to be closed and top show jumping to be stopped plus the horse racing oh and how many horses died at badminton in that weekend ? the man that was in the river with the horse was not a gypsy nor the owner.
thats not nice my partner is a romany gypsy and goes to appleby every year and the horses up there a lovely the coloured cobs well i have seen some of his friends cobs and one was sold for £70,000 he is in ireland now he is a stunning stallion and thats what they offered for him and he was very well looked after a lot of the romany gypsys horses are more what i can say of some of them in some livery yards there is good and bad in all and my partners horses are well looked after,to say the fair should be stopped well i think is unfair while you are at it ask for some of ther top dressage yards to be closed and top show jumping to be stopped plus the horse racing oh and how many horses died at badminton in that weekend ? the man that was in the river with the horse was not a gypsy nor the owner.