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Since I have had a bad day and have decided to bite the bullet and sell on horsey and get something else to cheer myself up I decided to have a browse and see what I could find. I like this wee man and he is not too far from me.

Here is what his ad said:

Stunning 15hh 5 year old dapple bay Cob (Part Section D)

Gavin is a true star who would excel in the show ring or working cob classes

He is straight moving, clean limbed and has excellent free flowing paces

Careful scopey jump and would make someone an ideal hunter

He is an honest wee chap and hasn’t a bad bone in his body

Super nature - can be likened to a dog on some days!

Hacks alone / company, great in traffic, to shoe and loads himself!

Currently stabled at night but has wintered out

Has all the basics established and is ready to school on and win

Sad sale but I just don’t have the time and am giving up horses altogether

And here are some pictures:

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Apart from being a bit down hill what do you think?

And just because she is cute a pic of my pony

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Nice enough horse, but I am not sure why you would want to buy exactly the same type of horse that you can't cope with at present, especially a 5yr old who will need a confident handler/rider.
Am I missing something?
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I 'think' I know him, can you give me a clue on where he is? If it's borders area I reckon I know who is selling him

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Have sent you a PM.
 
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Nice enough horse, but I am not sure why you would want to buy exactly the same type of horse that you can't cope with at present, especially a 5yr old who will need a confident handler/rider.
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Hmm Im confused as he is nothing like my current horse. I have had youngsters before with great success and I am a pretty confident rider/handler just not up to the challange of big lump of a warmblood that pins you in the corner of a stable.
 
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Nice enough horse, but I am not sure why you would want to buy exactly the same type of horse that you can't cope with at present, especially a 5yr old who will need a confident handler/rider.
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Hmm Im confused as he is nothing like my current horse. I have had youngsters before with great success and I am a pretty confident rider/handler just not up to the challange of big lump of a warmblood that pins you in the corner of a stable.

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You can ignore what I am about to say, but I still feel compelled to voice my opinion.
I believe you were the author of your own problems with Molly today.
Firstly - if you are working round a youngster that you know to be bargy, then you should have tied her up, in the box.
This would have stopped her barging you, and kept her safe too (from tools etc).
Secondly, no horse is perfect - and 6yr olds are still learning - they need confident, consistent handling, not 'nice mummies'.
Thirdly, look again at the picture of the horse above under saddle - and ask yourself if you really think that 5yr old is suitable? Welsh D's are fab, but often strong, onward bound, and have an excess of 'character' which may make for more tearful mummies.
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Fourthly, if you do hope to sell Molly, then probably best not to post too much about her propensities on an open forum.
There, I had to say it, but hope not to have offended you too much.
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Fourthly, if you do hope to sell Molly, then probably best not to post too much about her propensities on an open forum.


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Gosh thats a point... never thought of that
 
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Nice enough horse, but I am not sure why you would want to buy exactly the same type of horse that you can't cope with at present, especially a 5yr old who will need a confident handler/rider.
Am I missing something?
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Hmm Im confused as he is nothing like my current horse. I have had youngsters before with great success and I am a pretty confident rider/handler just not up to the challange of big lump of a warmblood that pins you in the corner of a stable.

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You can ignore what I am about to say, but I still feel compelled to voice my opinion.
I believe you were the author of your own problems with Molly today.
Firstly - if you are working round a youngster that you know to be bargy, then you should have tied her up, in the box.
This would have stopped her barging you, and kept her safe too (from tools etc).
Secondly, no horse is perfect - and 6yr olds are still learning - they need confident, consistent handling, not 'nice mummies'.
Thirdly, look again at the picture of the horse above under saddle - and ask yourself if you really think that 5yr old is suitable? Welsh D's are fab, but often strong, onward bound, and have an excess of 'character' which may make for more tearful mummies.
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Fourthly, if you do hope to sell Molly, then probably best not to post too much about her propensities on an open forum.
There, I had to say it, but hope not to have offended you too much.
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Ok Molly is my pony the probs I had tonight were with my horse who is a dam sight bigger than Molly. My horse WAS tied up the clip on the lead rope broke with either her second or third barge towards the door. I have owned a welsh D and had great fun and success with her, she was also a bargy git when I got her but my current horse takes it to a different level. When I sell my horse on any prospective purchaser will be tol that she can have bargy moments. I believe that part of being a nice "mummy" is confident consistent handling. The horse I am having trouble with is not some wee naughty pony she is a 750kg big, powerful, sharp, sensitive, hot headed beast.
 
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Ok Molly is my pony the probs I had tonight were with my horse who is a dam sight bigger than Molly. My horse WAS tied up the clip on the lead rope broke with either her second or third barge towards the door. I have owned a welsh D and had great fun and success with her, she was also a bargy git when I got her but my current horse takes it to a different level. When I sell my horse on any prospective purchaser will be tol that she can have bargy moments. I believe that part of being a nice "mummy" is confident consistent handling. The horse I am having trouble with is not some wee naughty pony she is a 750kg big, powerful, sharp, sensitive, hot headed beast.

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Apologies regarding the name.
Good luck in your quest to find a <750kg, small, weak, dull, insensitive, cool headed beast which you can cope with.
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Terrible rider - and the horse is so desparately on its forehand that it must bury both of them in the next couple of stides......But if you are far more relaxed, and want the animal to havea bit of fun- then it might be OK for you - but who knows, I have not got to grips with what was the problem with the other horse? Maybe try buying a horse that is as happy outside a 'sandpit' then in it?
 
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Terrible rider - and the horse is so desparately on its forehand that it must bury both of them in the next couple of stides......But if you are far more relaxed, and want the animal to havea bit of fun- then it might be OK for you - but who knows, I have not got to grips with what was the problem with the other horse? Maybe try buying a horse that is as happy outside a 'sandpit' then in it?

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Hmm Im pretty sure ill regret this but hey ho got nothing better to do (sad I know but I accept that) so Ill bite.
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I take it you ride like carl hester and have a string of competition horses that you successfully compete at a very high level every week.
Agree that horsey is on the forehand hence my apart from being a bit downhill comment. Well no horse is perfect!
Where in my original post did I mention a sandpit?
 
Karla Shester my dear.....Carl's long lost step sister!
I do racehorses, which is what I hate seeing anything in a school on its forehand.
Came in to this debate late, so might not quite caught up on all the background- but before I purchased that animal, I would want to see it going up hill as well!
Good luck and happy new year. lol xx
 
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Ok Molly is my pony the probs I had tonight were with my horse who is a dam sight bigger than Molly. My horse WAS tied up the clip on the lead rope broke with either her second or third barge towards the door. I have owned a welsh D and had great fun and success with her, she was also a bargy git when I got her but my current horse takes it to a different level. When I sell my horse on any prospective purchaser will be tol that she can have bargy moments. I believe that part of being a nice "mummy" is confident consistent handling. The horse I am having trouble with is not some wee naughty pony she is a 750kg big, powerful, sharp, sensitive, hot headed beast.

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Apologies regarding the name.
Good luck in your quest to find a <750kg, small, weak, dull, insensitive, cool headed beast which you can cope with.
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Ive been here for long enough to know that you like to wind people up and after the day Ive had you are doing a grand job well done. Why did you not respond to my OP with your opinion. Please offer me your words of wisdom on how you would have dealt with the situation.
 
Nice horse, needs a lot of schooling if you have the knowledge to bring him on and that forehand should lighten given time - worth the trouble i'd say

should be a better match than your current horse certainly
 
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Ive been here for long enough to know that you like to wind people up and after the day Ive had you are doing a grand job well done. Why did you not respond to my OP with your opinion. Please offer me your words of wisdom on how you would have dealt with the situation.

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No, it is not my intention to 'wind you up' at all, and I think I knew that you would rather blame your current horse, than address any issues.
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Not sure what you mean by 'respond to your OP with your opinion'? If you mean that I should tell you what I think of the horse for sale above, then that goes against forum etiquette as I understand it, so I shan't.
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Karla Shester my dear.....Carl's long lost step sister!
I do racehorses, which is what I hate seeing anything in a school on its forehand.
Came in to this debate late, so might not quite caught up on all the background- but before I purchased that animal, I would want to see it going up hill as well!
Good luck and happy new year. lol xx

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And just because a horse has it pic taken in a school means that it never/wont hack out. Your prob not interested which is fair enough but here is a link to my OP
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post5179432
dont blame you if you cant be bothered reading it as it goes on for a while. But would be better to get your facts straight before posting rather cheeky comments. Now I dont know how you manage your racehorses but if we are generalising as we do seem to be tonight I have quite a few things I could say about how racehorses are kept/managed. Raced too young, stabled 23 hours a day oh and I have also seem a fair few on the forehand tbs.
 
A little sensitive I think in relation to Shilarsdair's post?
I think that if you pose a Q, then you should expect a number of balanced responses.
How would I have dealt with the barging mare? A big stick i suspect, which might not be the PC response - but why would I want to be run over by a large horse?
 
Sadly we should both be out partying rather than sniping at each other on this forum - but I have an ill husband that is keeping me at home tonight.
Ohhh terrible generalisations about race horses......my boys are pointers. so trained at home (and I work full-time as well) - no two days are the same - and we don't have a horse walker. Went hunting today with one, he was an ass - but I was quite pleased that he was, as very dull normally in his roadwork. Very uphill - I wish they were less so, as their top lines would improve - but I do lots of hill work to try and improve that. When Harry (the pointer) goes forward, then I can ask him to come down, but he is such a lazy sod...
Chill out - please, and you may find that the nags do too.......
 
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A little sensitive I think in relation to Shilarsdair's post?
I think that if you pose a Q, then you should expect a number of balanced responses.
How would I have dealt with the barging mare? A big stick i suspect, which might not be the PC response - but why would I want to be run over by a large horse?

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I did not have one in my hand at the time as I was trying to untie a haynet. I have tried the big stick approach she just gets more wired and it further re inforces her desire to get out the stable which means she runs at the door faster. Not good when you sre trying to leave the stable.
 
FFS, she's sending the one she doesn't get on with away to be sold. She's buying another. Why shouldn't she and why should the other be a problem?
 
OK - I freely admit that the big stick thing can go the other way - What happens if you open the stable door, where does she go then? is the stable a problem? Perhaps a field shelter?
Like you, I have had horses / ponies in the past where I have struggled to know where to go next.......and like having a partner, some are a match made in heaven, and others are not. And I have let them go - but in those days I used to do a bit of dealing, so they were destined to go anyway - latterly I want to keep them, and get on with them - and as you pointed out my horses are kept in 24/7 for about 5 months of the year - so we have to get on! And we do.......lots of polos - a varied routine, and lovely big stables where thay can see everyting that is going on, together with chickens and geeses!
 
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