Horse Hit by Rally Car
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Hels_Bels
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Can't find the story? link takes me to the homepage
barbaraNcolin
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That is truely awful. I can't believe the article then goes on to focus on the fact that the driver only lost 30secs in time.... What a sad world it is sometimes
GinaB
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Try this link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...3-feet-air.html
Its the Daily Mail BNC, you can't expect anything less from their reporting I'm afraid
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnew...3-feet-air.html
Its the Daily Mail BNC, you can't expect anything less from their reporting I'm afraid
stencilface
High upon a hillside
Christ! I just hope they dispatched it quickly - poor thing
Driver sounds like an idiot though, hope he gets reincarnated as something car squishable
Driver sounds like an idiot though, hope he gets reincarnated as something car squishable
Over2You
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Bloody cars!! They cause far too many accidents on the regular roads, now an innocent horse has lost his/her life because of a pointless, stupid race. That driver should punished - he would be if it were a person he hit!
Poor horse - R.I.P
Poor horse - R.I.P
JM07
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it would be nice if the DM picked up on the day to day carnage of semi-feral ponies on BRITISH roads!!!!
Hedgewitch13
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Here, here! They need to see the damage caused on Dartmoor, the New Forest, Exmoor etc, etc by speeding motorists or those just not taking care when driving in open, animal inhabited countryside. Not much of a story in that though I guess - grrrrrr.
chunklovescooks
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Shocking, why did he keep on driving? :O
RIP horsey
RIP horsey
cathrineskinner
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Amazed the car did not seem to be damaged - a fox hit cost OH £700!!! And that was with a new L R Discovery!!!
only_me
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http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/287960.html
it truely is horriffic - the horse looks like a play horse
seriously people, severe warning on the vid
it truely is horriffic - the horse looks like a play horse
seriously people, severe warning on the vid
happyhack
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"Despite the crash, Villagra not only escaped injury, but the incident only cost him 30 seconds of time during the race"
What an insensitive and ridiculous thing to write.
It was quite clearly an accident and nothing could have been done to prevent the horse from wandering into the path of the car. There would have been no point in the driver stopping either, what could he have done? He is a trained profesional driver, not a vet. Although, as a professional driver, he should have been looking out for hazards surely...
What an insensitive and ridiculous thing to write.
It was quite clearly an accident and nothing could have been done to prevent the horse from wandering into the path of the car. There would have been no point in the driver stopping either, what could he have done? He is a trained profesional driver, not a vet. Although, as a professional driver, he should have been looking out for hazards surely...
Elle1085
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poor thing
, the car must've had some serious reinforcement or something to get away with that but surely any normal human would have been too shocked to carry on racing.
suzysparkle
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Yes of course they look out for hazards but rally drivers go seriously fast and there's no way he could have stopped in time. Saying the race is stupid / pointless is a bit harsh. It's a very popular sport, why shouldn't they do it???????? Everyone is entitled to their own hobby / sport / job.
This was a tragic accident. Yes the comments made about time loss were a bit insensitive.
I'd say most people have hit something at some point. Be it a suicidal pheasant, deer, rabbit etc. I ran over an Otter in a lorry once. It ran between the wheel. I was doing 30mph and absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it. I felt terrible but it didn't stop me from carrying on (after I had checked it was actually dead and moved it off the road).
This was a tragic accident. Yes the comments made about time loss were a bit insensitive.
I'd say most people have hit something at some point. Be it a suicidal pheasant, deer, rabbit etc. I ran over an Otter in a lorry once. It ran between the wheel. I was doing 30mph and absolutely nothing I could have done to prevent it. I felt terrible but it didn't stop me from carrying on (after I had checked it was actually dead and moved it off the road).
PinkFairy
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Oh my god. Have just seen this and can't find the words.. Poor horse
Hedgewitch13
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I really can't click on the link but it reminded me of a rally car going through some poor herders goat flock during the Dakar rally. They didn't stop then either - basically didn't give a [****]. Not a sport I would want to be involved in, winning seems to be all they are interested in and they don't seem to give a stuff about anytthing that gets in there way. Callous barstewards.
neddynesbitt
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Bloody hell, what a heartless b*****d to keep going!!
Over2You
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There is something else that really bothers me about this tragedy. If the area was known to be inhabited by wild horses, then why the hell did they not find another location where an encounter was far less likely?? They cancelled some off-road 4x4 event not that long ago here in UK, after concerns were raised about possible harm to wildlife and habitats. Too bad the flipping Argentines weren't as concerned about their beautiful horses. That horrid driver obviously didn't give two-hoots about that poor horse, or he would have stopped. He was more concerned about his precious position in the race than a sentient being. People like him are scum!! Most motor-sports really get me narked anyway. World leaders talk about regular drivers polluting the planet and to only use the car when absolute need be. Yet, there those racing drivers are, tearing up the countryside, killing goodness knows how many innocent creatures. All the while adding to the ever-growing mass of carbon in the atmosphere. They then use the excuse that they are using/experimenting with bio-fuels. Have they ever heard of the food crisis? There is hardly enough crops for us and our animals, let alone fuelling their juice guzzlers!
I also agree that there should be some kind of expose on the daily carnage in the countryside - particularly in the New Forest. Either that or drastically reduce the top speed of cars. People managed years ago when cars were much slower. If only we could go back to that more relaxed way of living. No more impatient sods yelling and going hell for leather on the horn if they have to wait any more than a minute for a light to change. Or losing their temper if they can't get past a tractor or horse and rider. We should definitely go back in time and enjoy the benefits of not needing everything done yesterday.
Rant over!
I also agree that there should be some kind of expose on the daily carnage in the countryside - particularly in the New Forest. Either that or drastically reduce the top speed of cars. People managed years ago when cars were much slower. If only we could go back to that more relaxed way of living. No more impatient sods yelling and going hell for leather on the horn if they have to wait any more than a minute for a light to change. Or losing their temper if they can't get past a tractor or horse and rider. We should definitely go back in time and enjoy the benefits of not needing everything done yesterday.
Rant over!
Garfield1537
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That is awful!
Erehwemos
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it would be nice if the DM picked up on the day to day carnage of semi-feral ponies on BRITISH roads!!!!
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My thoughts entirely! The statistics from the New Forest in particular are tragic
it would be nice if the DM picked up on the day to day carnage of semi-feral ponies on BRITISH roads!!!!
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My thoughts entirely! The statistics from the New Forest in particular are tragic
monkeybum13
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it would be nice if the DM picked up on the day to day carnage of semi-feral ponies on BRITISH roads!!!!
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My thoughts entirely! The statistics from the New Forest in particular are tragic
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exactly what I was thinking
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it would be nice if the DM picked up on the day to day carnage of semi-feral ponies on BRITISH roads!!!!
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My thoughts entirely! The statistics from the New Forest in particular are tragic
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exactly what I was thinking
My_chestnut_mare
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got to say im with you on this on suzysparkle.
V1NN
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Poor poor horse, RIP x
PapaFrita
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There is something else that really bothers me about this tragedy. If the area was known to be inhabited by wild horses, then why the hell did they not find another location where an encounter was far less likely??
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They were most likely NOT wild horses. I see horses wandering loose on remote roads all the time. It would be more pertinent to ask why they weren't securely penned/stabled/otherwise enclosed when the rally was taking place.
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They cancelled some off-road 4x4 event not that long ago here in UK, after concerns were raised about possible harm to wildlife and habitats. Too bad the flipping Argentines weren't as concerned about their beautiful horses.
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I'll thank you not to tar all Argentines with the same brush. Argentina is a VERY poor country and the rally brings in a LOT of money and work. As I said before, the owners of the horses should've made they were securely enclosed.
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That horrid driver obviously didn't give two-hoots about that poor horse, or he would have stopped. He was more concerned about his precious position in the race than a sentient being. People like him are scum!!
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Whilst I would've certainly stopped, what exactly could he have done? Also, don't forget he's doing a JOB, not on a sightseeing tour.
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Most motor-sports really get me narked anyway. World leaders talk about regular drivers polluting the planet and to only use the car when absolute need be. Yet, there those racing drivers are, tearing up the countryside, killing goodness knows how many innocent creatures. All the while adding to the ever-growing mass of carbon in the atmosphere. They then use the excuse that they are using/experimenting with bio-fuels. Have they ever heard of the food crisis? There is hardly enough crops for us and our animals, let alone fuelling their juice guzzlers!
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Not really relevant to the case in point, but having nearly been run over by a knob in a rally car practising near our yard, I share at least part of your sentiment.
There is something else that really bothers me about this tragedy. If the area was known to be inhabited by wild horses, then why the hell did they not find another location where an encounter was far less likely??
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They were most likely NOT wild horses. I see horses wandering loose on remote roads all the time. It would be more pertinent to ask why they weren't securely penned/stabled/otherwise enclosed when the rally was taking place.
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They cancelled some off-road 4x4 event not that long ago here in UK, after concerns were raised about possible harm to wildlife and habitats. Too bad the flipping Argentines weren't as concerned about their beautiful horses.
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I'll thank you not to tar all Argentines with the same brush. Argentina is a VERY poor country and the rally brings in a LOT of money and work. As I said before, the owners of the horses should've made they were securely enclosed.
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That horrid driver obviously didn't give two-hoots about that poor horse, or he would have stopped. He was more concerned about his precious position in the race than a sentient being. People like him are scum!!
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Whilst I would've certainly stopped, what exactly could he have done? Also, don't forget he's doing a JOB, not on a sightseeing tour.
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Most motor-sports really get me narked anyway. World leaders talk about regular drivers polluting the planet and to only use the car when absolute need be. Yet, there those racing drivers are, tearing up the countryside, killing goodness knows how many innocent creatures. All the while adding to the ever-growing mass of carbon in the atmosphere. They then use the excuse that they are using/experimenting with bio-fuels. Have they ever heard of the food crisis? There is hardly enough crops for us and our animals, let alone fuelling their juice guzzlers!
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Not really relevant to the case in point, but having nearly been run over by a knob in a rally car practising near our yard, I share at least part of your sentiment.
2diamondlova
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i dont think the driver should have stopped after it because if he stopped something could come round the corner and crashed into him i am more annoyed at the people who organised it to mae sure things like this dont happen and i was very suprised that the driver wasnt seriously hurt also very upset to see a horse hurt in this way just like as if it was nothing the video was quite shocking tbh
Over2You
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There is something else that really bothers me about this tragedy. If the area was known to be inhabited by wild horses, then why the hell did they not find another location where an encounter was far less likely??
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They were most likely NOT wild horses. I see horses wandering loose on remote roads all the time. It would be more pertinent to ask why they weren't securely penned/stabled/otherwise enclosed when the rally was taking place.
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The organizers of the rally could have quite easily relocated or had people corral any loose horses, so they wouldn't come to any harm. If not for the horses' sake, but for the safety of the drivers. Or better yet - not taken place at all.
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They cancelled some off-road 4x4 event not that long ago here in UK, after concerns were raised about possible harm to wildlife and habitats. Too bad the flipping Argentines weren't as concerned about their beautiful horses.
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I'll thank you not to tar all Argentines with the same brush. Argentina is a VERY poor country and the rally brings in a LOT of money and work. As I said before, the owners of the horses should've made they were securely enclosed.
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I regret you took offense to my post and I apologize for that. I can assure you, I would be every bit as disgusted, and ashamed of authorities here in Britain, had something similar happened. An accident like this WAS avoidable. I am sick and tired of animals suffering because of human greed and glory. And if race cars are allowed to continue polluting the atmosphere needlessly, then the poorer countries will be amongst the worst off when Mother Nature inevitably starts biting back. Instead of approving of such events, you should be boycotting them for the future well being of your country.
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That horrid driver obviously didn't give two-hoots about that poor horse, or he would have stopped. He was more concerned about his precious position in the race than a sentient being. People like him are scum!!
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Whilst I would've certainly stopped, what exactly could he have done? Also, don't forget he's doing a JOB, not on a sightseeing tour.
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He should have stopped as that would have been the compassionate thing to do. To carry on like he did without a second thought for the animal to whom he had just served a death sentence, was absolutely disgusting. What if, say a plumber was on his way to a call out and struck a deer, a dog or some other creature, and didn't stop to check on the animal. Would you be as quick to say oh, he was doing a job or condemn him for the heartless sod that he is?
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Most motor-sports really get me narked anyway. World leaders talk about regular drivers polluting the planet and to only use the car when absolute need be. Yet, there those racing drivers are, tearing up the countryside, killing goodness knows how many innocent creatures. All the while adding to the ever-growing mass of carbon in the atmosphere. They then use the excuse that they are using/experimenting with bio-fuels. Have they ever heard of the food crisis? There is hardly enough crops for us and our animals, let alone fuelling their juice guzzlers!
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Not really relevant to the case in point, but having nearly been run over by a knob in a rally car practising near our yard, I share at least part of your sentiment.
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At least we agree on something.
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There is something else that really bothers me about this tragedy. If the area was known to be inhabited by wild horses, then why the hell did they not find another location where an encounter was far less likely??
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They were most likely NOT wild horses. I see horses wandering loose on remote roads all the time. It would be more pertinent to ask why they weren't securely penned/stabled/otherwise enclosed when the rally was taking place.
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The organizers of the rally could have quite easily relocated or had people corral any loose horses, so they wouldn't come to any harm. If not for the horses' sake, but for the safety of the drivers. Or better yet - not taken place at all.
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They cancelled some off-road 4x4 event not that long ago here in UK, after concerns were raised about possible harm to wildlife and habitats. Too bad the flipping Argentines weren't as concerned about their beautiful horses.
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I'll thank you not to tar all Argentines with the same brush. Argentina is a VERY poor country and the rally brings in a LOT of money and work. As I said before, the owners of the horses should've made they were securely enclosed.
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I regret you took offense to my post and I apologize for that. I can assure you, I would be every bit as disgusted, and ashamed of authorities here in Britain, had something similar happened. An accident like this WAS avoidable. I am sick and tired of animals suffering because of human greed and glory. And if race cars are allowed to continue polluting the atmosphere needlessly, then the poorer countries will be amongst the worst off when Mother Nature inevitably starts biting back. Instead of approving of such events, you should be boycotting them for the future well being of your country.
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That horrid driver obviously didn't give two-hoots about that poor horse, or he would have stopped. He was more concerned about his precious position in the race than a sentient being. People like him are scum!!
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Whilst I would've certainly stopped, what exactly could he have done? Also, don't forget he's doing a JOB, not on a sightseeing tour.
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He should have stopped as that would have been the compassionate thing to do. To carry on like he did without a second thought for the animal to whom he had just served a death sentence, was absolutely disgusting. What if, say a plumber was on his way to a call out and struck a deer, a dog or some other creature, and didn't stop to check on the animal. Would you be as quick to say oh, he was doing a job or condemn him for the heartless sod that he is?
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Most motor-sports really get me narked anyway. World leaders talk about regular drivers polluting the planet and to only use the car when absolute need be. Yet, there those racing drivers are, tearing up the countryside, killing goodness knows how many innocent creatures. All the while adding to the ever-growing mass of carbon in the atmosphere. They then use the excuse that they are using/experimenting with bio-fuels. Have they ever heard of the food crisis? There is hardly enough crops for us and our animals, let alone fuelling their juice guzzlers!
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Not really relevant to the case in point, but having nearly been run over by a knob in a rally car practising near our yard, I share at least part of your sentiment.
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At least we agree on something.
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village idiot :D
Similar things do happen in Britain in rally stages and in the IOM TT and also in the New Forest. OK it's horses in only one of those but should we not feel sorry for the cattle and sheep?
3BayGeldings
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Can't believe they kept going after hitting it! Jesus christ....
Can't believe they kept going after hitting it! Jesus christ....
PapaFrita
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I'm sorry, I've got a bit befuddled with all the quote unquote business so will just summarise my POV.
Nope, it wouldn't have been easy at all to relocate the rally. I have no idea what made you think it would be. YEARS of organization are involved and the rally covers thousands of miles. The sheer size of Argentina is something difficult to comprehend.
I also think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when you suggest I (or perhaps Argentinians in general) should boycott such an event. I personally have absolutely no interest in it. None. I'm actually p*ssed off when my route to work is cut off to let some knobs in very loud cars go by, BUT, you have no IDEA of what my country is going through, so I rather resent being told how it should be taken care of.
As Jemima_too has explained, these things happen all over the world, including the UK, and I dare say FAR more animals (domestic as well as wild) die as a result of being hit by regular road users than rally drivers, so perhaps your wrath is rather misdirected.
I still don't see why you're so adamant the driver should've stopped. If one of the riders that were chased by dogs at Badminton this year had hurt or killed one of them, do you think they should've stopped? I personally don't think so. You may not value your job very highly, but I'm sure other people do and it's utterly unfair to compare a professional race driver to a plumber on his way to a job. Completely different.
I do understand your concerns and your frustration BUT I do feel you're being unrealistic and not seeing the big picture.
Nope, it wouldn't have been easy at all to relocate the rally. I have no idea what made you think it would be. YEARS of organization are involved and the rally covers thousands of miles. The sheer size of Argentina is something difficult to comprehend.
I also think you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about when you suggest I (or perhaps Argentinians in general) should boycott such an event. I personally have absolutely no interest in it. None. I'm actually p*ssed off when my route to work is cut off to let some knobs in very loud cars go by, BUT, you have no IDEA of what my country is going through, so I rather resent being told how it should be taken care of.
As Jemima_too has explained, these things happen all over the world, including the UK, and I dare say FAR more animals (domestic as well as wild) die as a result of being hit by regular road users than rally drivers, so perhaps your wrath is rather misdirected.
I still don't see why you're so adamant the driver should've stopped. If one of the riders that were chased by dogs at Badminton this year had hurt or killed one of them, do you think they should've stopped? I personally don't think so. You may not value your job very highly, but I'm sure other people do and it's utterly unfair to compare a professional race driver to a plumber on his way to a job. Completely different.
I do understand your concerns and your frustration BUT I do feel you're being unrealistic and not seeing the big picture.
letrec_fan
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I personally don't think so. You may not value your job very highly, but I'm sure other people do and it's utterly unfair to compare a professional race driver to a plumber on his way to a job. Completely different.
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Sorry, PF, but why is this any different? Between a plumber and a racing driver I mean. Every job should be valued but being a racing driver isn't exactly a job - its just a money making sport in my opinion! The racing driver clearly shows little to no respect or regret to the animal he hit either in the article. Okay, so he didn't stop. Fine. It probably would of caused more danger but if I had hit a horse I would of felt awful..
On a seperate note - some of the comments made by people below are so heartless. Like this for example:
"You people need to grow up, seriously. It's a horse for crying out loud."
Some people just couldn't give two hoots about animals. They think there flaming superior to everyone else. Thats what gets me.
I personally don't think so. You may not value your job very highly, but I'm sure other people do and it's utterly unfair to compare a professional race driver to a plumber on his way to a job. Completely different.
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Sorry, PF, but why is this any different? Between a plumber and a racing driver I mean. Every job should be valued but being a racing driver isn't exactly a job - its just a money making sport in my opinion! The racing driver clearly shows little to no respect or regret to the animal he hit either in the article. Okay, so he didn't stop. Fine. It probably would of caused more danger but if I had hit a horse I would of felt awful..
On a seperate note - some of the comments made by people below are so heartless. Like this for example:
"You people need to grow up, seriously. It's a horse for crying out loud."
Some people just couldn't give two hoots about animals. They think there flaming superior to everyone else. Thats what gets me.