Horse i sold last year am getting ignored! Help???

johnrobert said:
Sorry but sometimes being blunt is the best policy. not everyone is kissy kissy, a lot of sellers once horse is sold, it's sold, why sell a horse otherwise, when you sell a car, house or what you have no say on what the new owners do, and sorry but why should these new owners keep her in the loop. I've owned horses for over 40 years and if I'm being tactless to her feelings, I say again grow up.
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Ok Johnrobert, please butt out now! You are beginning to get on my nerves!
 
johnrobert said:
Sorry but sometimes being blunt is the best policy. not everyone is kissy kissy, a lot of sellers once horse is sold, it's sold, why sell a horse otherwise, when you sell a car, house or what you have no say on what the new owners do, and sorry but why should these new owners keep her in the loop. I've owned horses for over 40 years and if I'm being tactless to her feelings, I say again grow up.
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Thats blokes for you. A house or car is not quite the same. They don't depend upon you or form a bond.
 
johnrobert said:
Sorry but sometimes being blunt is the best policy. not everyone is kissy kissy, a lot of sellers once horse is sold, it's sold, why sell a horse otherwise, when you sell a car, house or what you have no say on what the new owners do, and sorry but why should these new owners keep her in the loop. I've owned horses for over 40 years and if I'm being tactless to her feelings, I say again grow up.
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As i said, theres being blunt and theres being rude. YOU are rude. Your analogy is also silly, few people feel the same way about a car or a house as they do about a horse.

Your post really was unecessary and its a shame you are still standing by it. It was obvious the OP was upset and comments like yours dont help. I dont mind saying something that soemone might not want to hear but there are ways of doing it and your way is plain rude.
 
yeeharider said:
sorry but I agree with everything johnrobert has said you sold the horse your choice get a life and grow up not everything in life is kissy kissy nicey nicey
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I have a life thanks, a very nice life as it happens. I am now adding you as well as JR to my ignore list and leaving this discusssion! So if you insist on posting pointless hurtful stuff i wont be able to read it, people like you aren't worth it!
 
I dont know why im getting involved in this but posts like yours make me cross! It doesnt have to be kissy kissy nicey nicey or totally rude- what happened to being in the middle sometimes? The OP asked for advice and being told to get a life and grow up is hardly good advice! Except maybe to you and JR
 
yeeharider said:
dont understand how the truth can be described as hurtful,
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Well it sometimes is. And there are also many ways to tell the truth. Using a sledgehammer to crack a nut is not the best way. As i said, i dont mind telling it how it is but if youre living in the real world im glad i live in cloud cuckoo land
 
Like others have said, the new owners have no obligation to keep in touch with you- its just luck whether they do or don't. I am still in touch with old ponys owners- 2 years down the line and my horses old owner- 3 years down the line, but that is just luck really! Sadly you can't really do anything.
 
Tinypony said:
Sadly Ischa, that piece of paper isn't legally enforceable, as has been proved in the past.
Sorry if I was a bit blunt katekinghts, I think I was in a blunt mood when I posted! Glad you appreciated the kick up the bum... !
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it is if its done by a qualified solitor which bth mine where done by a vey close friend who is one
 
Shame people don't read the threads before posting. I was a bit blunt - not rude, and so were others. Kateknights thanked us for giving her the kick up the posterior that she needed.
I'm not sure what the point is in coming on after that and being nasty to her, or repeating what has already been said.
 
p.s. Ischa, I hope you are right, but a lady I know who is a respected Arabian breeder had what she thought was a watertight "right to buy back" piece of paper drawn up by a solicitor and her case was thrown out of court. I can't remember the details, but if you think about it, what do you do about the price for example? What if the new owner wants to sell, but at a higher price than the old owner wants to pay? But, I hope if you ever need to test it you are right, because my friend did not get to buy her mare back.
 
Oh how I sympathise with you.
This happened to me. I sold a pony and asked to be told if she was sold on. However, she was sold on and I wasn't told and now I don't know where she is.
It is heartbreaking. I have posted several times to see if anyone knows her but no luck. I've checked with WPCS and palomino society as she was registered, but no luck.
However, as posters above have said, there is nothing I, or you can do.
Absolutely heartbreaking.
(Id like to put a crying icon here but can't find one)
 
Of course when you sell a horse you relinquish all rights to it BUT is it too much to ask to have an update once or twice a year? Or to receive a phone call if the horse is being sold on? If the new buyer has agreed at the time of purchase 'We'll keep in touch and let you know how things are' and/or 'We will call you first if we ever sell on?' then why go ahead and just do the opposite? There is another human being who cared for that animal and not everyone who sells is selling to make money, it could be circumstance. Maybe I am old fashioned but it doesn't take much effort to send one email or to let an old owner know you are selling. I have kept in touch with the people who sold me our gelding who was grown out of and daughter was having to move onto horses, not very often but the odd email at Christmas etc, five years later I still do it! They are probably sick of me! ;)
 
johnrobert said:
Sorry but sometimes being blunt is the best policy. not everyone is kissy kissy, a lot of sellers once horse is sold, it's sold, why sell a horse otherwise, when you sell a car, house or what you have no say on what the new owners do, and sorry but why should these new owners keep her in the loop. I've owned horses for over 40 years and if I'm being tactless to her feelings, I say again grow up.
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What actually is your problem, I can only presume that you have having a particually bad day and are venting it on people who are feeling a little vunerable and upset. Back off and butt out if you have nothing constructive to add!

In ref to the actual post, it is so sad when you are disconected from a horse that you were attached too, i personally agree with you and have always kept in contact with new and old owners. It doesnt take 2 seconds to send a quick text saying how they are getting on.
Hope you do make contact soon and it is good news.
 
I have to say that i never fully understand the need for a first refusal if the horse is to be sold . Surely if the horse was sold in the first place it was becasue it was no longer wanted/needed/could be cared for ect. So if the new owner decides to sell th ehorse on, why woudl they want to sell the horse back to someone who had already decided they could not/did not want to look after them any more. I have to say that if i bought a horse off someone and they wanted first refusal if i ever sold the horse on , they would be the last person i would sell to. You cant just sell a horse when your life means you cant look after them any more, then expect them back when it suits you. it is a hard fact to deal with , but that is it. I think that when you sell a horse, being able to keep in contact is a bonus. I have always been truthful when selling my horses/ponies on over the years. I have found that owners have wanted to stay in contact. It is nice to know how the horse is doing, but thats as far as it goes. Yes there are times when i do miss those that have been sold on , but then i realise they where sold for a reason. I could not meet there needs, or maybe we where not quite compatable, or what ever the circumstance. I think that the problem is that people feel only they can love there horse or give it the best home. Surely if you trust the person you ell to, you trust there judgement enought to find the horse/pony a good home should they have to resell.

Some people just dont do the whole "lets stay in touch " thing. It isnt alays down to any other reason other than they just dont see the point. Or are maybe worried about an old owner interfearing. At the yard i am on there is a gelding i sold to a friend 2 years ago. I owned him for 2 years. I see him every day, but i never get involved. I always am on hand to help the new owner if they need anything, but thats as far as it goes. Yes there are times when i look at how him and think how i woudl of done things differently. He had lammi thsi year, and i feel that was a shame, and was down to poor management. (he got lami from beeing over fed, and was not even on turnout) However i bite my tougue, offer advise if asked, but i let her get on with it.
 
KingCharles said:
I have to say that i never fully understand the need for a first refusal if the horse is to be sold . Surely if the horse was sold in the first place it was becasue it was no longer wanted/needed/could be cared for ect. So if the new owner decides to sell th ehorse on, why woudl they want to sell the horse back to someone who had already decided they could not/did not want to look after them any more. I have to say that if i bought a horse off someone and they wanted first refusal if i ever sold the horse on , they would be the last person i would sell to. You cant just sell a horse when your life means you cant look after them any more, then expect them back when it suits you. it is a hard fact to deal with , but that is it. I think that when you sell a horse, being able to keep in contact is a bonus. I have always been truthful when selling my horses/ponies on over the years. I have found that owners have wanted to stay in contact. It is nice to know how the horse is doing, but thats as far as it goes. Yes there are times when i do miss those that have been sold on , but then i realise they where sold for a reason. I could not meet there needs, or maybe we where not quite compatable, or what ever the circumstance. I think that the problem is that people feel only they can love there horse or give it the best home. Surely if you trust the person you ell to, you trust there judgement enought to find the horse/pony a good home should they have to resell.

Some people just dont do the whole "lets stay in touch " thing.
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But you have to understand that in a moment of their life that some people may have to sell due to a marriage breakup? Illness which may improve in time? Being made unemployed and faced with no house or no horse? What someone is suffering or going through in a specific year may improve dramatically in a couple or few years and they could be in a position to buy their horse back. I certainly don't think in every case that it is specifically that they think they are the only 'owner' for that horse but simply that they have bonded with their horse and would appreciate another chance to have their horse that they cared for back in their life.

I also don't think it has to be a 'let's stay in touch' thing, a few sentences in a text or email once a year would suffice but maybe I am just a soppy old fogey :D
 
I can sympathise about wanting to know horse is ok, i sold a gelding 3 years ago and im friends with the owner on facebook and iv emailed her a couple of times asking how horse is and does she still have him coz id love to know how he is, i got a reply saying she'd send some photos but never did :( I dont mind where he is but it would be nice to have a little update on him but like eveyone has said once you've sold the horse then you dont really have a say :(
 
I've only been a buyer thank goodness. But my last mare was sold to me because the lady was having financial probs and I kept her up to speed every Christmas with pictures and a report , the worse thing I had to do was sit down the afternoon Thea was pts and phone to tell her the news. I still send her cards and tell her how my new horse is doing. I also keep the previous owners of Sami up to speed too, and I got in return a complete record of her showing successes which I didn't know about.
 
Dont despair .Heres what happened to me.
I am new owner past 18 months.
I emailed and forwarded pics as promised and also sent texts and never heard anything back so gave in.Spoke to old loaner of my horse and found out that previous owner had changed her job email and lost her phone this is why she never replied.We have since been in contact and she is really happy to hear about her previous horse.
Give it once last chance with letter and good luck
 
I Can only really echo what others have said but sadly when you sell a horse you give up all rights to it. People make all sorts of promises that they rarely keep to, always not being rude but the horse is hers now, so she doesn’t have any sort of obligation to keep in touch. People have busy lives. But I do massively feel for you.

I’m still in touch with my horses old owner – 3 years later. Speak all the time on facebook and I always let her know how she is getting on.
 
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Hi,
I still keep in touch with the old owners of my pony. I brought her from them when she was 18 and they had had her for years.I keep in touch with them because I think if it was me that had sold her I would be gutted if I didn't know how she was getting on. They come over and visit her too maybe once or twice a year. Horses and ponies are such a big part of our lives it is hard to just switch off emotions about them. I hope the people who brought your horse get in touch with you soon :)
 
I would never keep in touch, I don't want strangers breating down my neck, sighing over the horse that might have been (if only they hadn't sold it to me) and to be honest, I don't see it as any of their business anymore.

After all, if I buy your horse, you exchange it for my money. Can I now tell you how to spend that money that I had saved up and taken such good care of?

I do feel a little for the OP but spare a thought for the buyer, who probably just wants to be left in peace to enjoy their own horse, without asking permission from anyone.
 
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