Horse is home. More lami advice please?!!!

Spot_the_Risk said:
One useful thing that I think should be in many First Aid kits now is a set of frog wedges from Formula 4feet. Tear drop shaped they were bandaged on and instantly gave support and he moved more easily. From there we moved on to hideous,y expensive glue on shoes - we had two full sets at £400 per set... They made him instantly sound and so happy. From there is was metal heart bars for two or three sets and now it's normal shoes.
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Years ago now but my vet used similar frog supports, I have seen those frog wedges recently and wondered if I am tempting fate by buying them or asked myself if they were any good. Glue on shoes worked unbelievably well, 2 sets later and I was so worried he would overdo things as he felt so good in himself, the vet also used something like plasticine to make frog supports but that was useless, it dried out and fell to pieces. Those x-ray aprons are a bundle of fun they make you feel like you have a ton of bricks hanging on your shoulders

He was then dx with EMS and with a paranoid owner who checks for pulses, any changes, constantly frets he has been sound for the last 9 years, my farrier used to say once they are lame its gone too far for some, it mustn't get that far, making me even more paranoid

I may buy some frog wedges now I have read your post and just keep them in the first aid box, thanks for that
 
poiuytrewq said:
She did, in all fairness say I can have X-rays if I really wanted but absolutely made out it was a waste of time and only done in horses who were in work and to rehab back to a ridden career.
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As a general rule if they are sound after a week or so I wouldn’t bother with X-rays. When it goes on for weeks there’s more likelihood of rotation or sinking. By having X-rays and trimming the hoof to those, the Farrier is making sure the new growth is putting the least amount of pressure on the laminae, which makes healing a lot quicker.

I think your vet was perhaps implying that time taken to heal isn’t as important in non-ridden horses but actually healing quickly is surely just as important in all horses.
 
Cecile said:
Years ago now but my vet used similar frog supports, I have seen those frog wedges recently and wondered if I am tempting fate by buying them or asked myself if they were any good. Glue on shoes worked unbelievably well, 2 sets later and I was so worried he would overdo things as he felt so good in himself, the vet also used something like plasticine to make frog supports but that was useless, it dried out and fell to pieces. Those x-ray aprons are a bundle of fun they make you feel like you have a ton of bricks hanging on your shoulders

He was then dx with EMS and with a paranoid owner who checks for pulses, any changes, constantly frets he has been sound for the last 9 years, my farrier used to say once they are lame its gone too far for some, it mustn't get that far, making me even more paranoid

I may buy some frog wedges now I have read your post and just keep them in the first aid box, thanks for that
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My vet showed me how to create frog supports from crepe bandage rolls. Not only cheaper but you can make then just the right thickness. Bind on with vetrwrap and then duct tape.
 
OldNag said:
My vet showed me how to create frog supports from crepe bandage rolls. Not only cheaper but you can make then just the right thickness. Bind on with vetrwrap and then duct tape.
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What an excellent idea as I always have crepe bandage in the first aid box, thank you ^^
Someone on here some time ago suggested under felt for carpets which I thought was genius too
 
meleeka said:
As a general rule if they are sound after a week or so I wouldn’t bother with X-rays.
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Did you read the extract from TLS? Rehabbing is all about getting the trim right to realign the pedal bone, and that can't be done without knowing what is going on inside. I would suggest that X rays when the horse APPEARS sound are the most important of all
 
Spot_the_Risk said:
One useful thing that I think should be in many First Aid kits now is a set of frog wedges from Formula 4feet. Tear drop shaped they were bandaged on and instantly gave support and he moved more easily. From there we moved on to hideous,y expensive glue on shoes - we had two full sets at £400 per set... They made him instantly sound and so happy. From there is was metal heart bars for two or three sets and now it's normal shoes.
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I would think styrofoam pads would give more general support, given that you don't know at that stage where the tip of P3 has got to. And my (then) farrier told me the glue on (?plastic?) shoes would not give adequate support to the bone column on my horse who is a WBx - chunky but by no means heavy. So you need to really educate yourself and assess what is best for y our horse - if this thread reveals anything it is that you really can't rely on many of the professionals, you need to educate yourself and question everything
 
JillA said:
Did you read the extract from TLS? Rehabbing is all about getting the trim right to realign the pedal bone, and that can't be done without knowing what is going on inside. I would suggest that X rays when the horse APPEARS sound are the most important of all
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Not all laminitis results in movement of the pedal bone. If you catch it early and it resolves in a few days there’s less chance.
 
JillA said:
I would think styrofoam pads would give more general support, given that you don't know at that stage where the tip of P3 has got to. And my (then) farrier told me the glue on (?plastic?) shoes would not give adequate support to the bone column on my horse who is a WBx - chunky but by no means heavy. So you need to really educate yourself and assess what is best for y our horse - if this thread reveals anything it is that you really can't rely on many of the professionals, you need to educate yourself and question everything
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I truly believe there is no one size fits all with laminitis, the reason for laminitis is different in each case, liver disease, EMS, Cushings, toxic overload and so many other causes
My farrier went crazy when he arrived and styrofoam had been fitted, the pony had no weight to squish it down and was basically trying to walk on stilts, with others my farrier would of thought styrofoam a good idea,
somehow he knew the glue on's would be better suited, so much so I only paid for the shoes the rest was free with the first pair

You have to run with your gut instinct with horses and laminitis, I also like to look at what is happening with the whole body not just the feet, I want to know what is happening with the liver so I want bloods done and have been known to take all urine to the hospital to run tests as it doesn't look normal but everyone is so different in how they deal with things.

I love these sort of threads as it shows each horse is so individual and like my vet always says *The more I learn about Laminitis the less I seem to know* which I can work with as its honest
 
Tiddlypom said:
Tbf to the vet, the OP has always made it clear on here that she's somewhat strapped for cash. Maybe vet presumes paying for x rays ect etc is beyond her reach, so didn't suggest them for this retired horse?
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That's true! However I would find it if necessary! I'm trying to do my best here, my job situation changed a few years back. This particular vet had only been at the practice for a week so she doesn't know me or my situation.
 
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