Horse lame in trot - no swelling or heat. Advice please!!

amymay said:
So what exactly was the purpose of your post?

And what explanation did your YO and farrier have for a strong digital pulse?
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Farrier said it means there is pain, most likely a result of concussion when trotting on hard ground.
 
Dumbo said:
I felt his strong pulse, posted on here that I'd call the vet asap (as in, once I'd finished working) and in the mean time spoke to my Yo and mentioned lami. She thought I was bonkers and said not to look at the internet! Farrier happened to be at the yard at the same time so he had a look and again thought I was bonkers to consider lami. As an experienced farrier/hoof expert I'm trusting his word. He was sure it was just hoof concussion when he's trotting on hard ground as there's no foot. He said he needs to grow some foot which will take at least 2 weeks. I'm going to check for improvement after the weekend but vet is coming on thursday anyway.
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You trust the man who took so much foot off your horse when he shod him with heart bars that he lamed him to tell you what the best way to treat him now is?
 
Dumbo said:
Farrier said it means there is pain,
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Exactly! And after three weeks you should be extremely concerned. Pain can be treated and managed, once a vet has diagnosed the cause.

Why would you leave your horse in continued discomfort for another 6 days - on the say so of two people who have no idea what is wrong?
 
He didn't take much foot off at all. First time I have used this farrier and he was highly recommended by several people. I don't think he is to blame for the lameness.
 
amymay said:
Exactly! And after three weeks you should be extremely concerned. Pain can be treated and managed, once a vet has diagnosed the cause.

Why would you leave your horse in continued discomfort for another 6 days - on the say so of two people who have no idea what is wrong?
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To save money. Or maybe that's just the cynical mind I have.
 
Dumbo said:
He didn't take much foot off at all. First time I have used this farrier and he was highly recommended by several people. I don't think he is to blame for the lameness.
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Then why is he telling you that the horse will be sound once it has grown more foot?
 
Has he had bar shoes on long.
imho they shouldnt be long term, ive only seen them make heels worse.....
hes been severely lame on and off. For that reason id be getting the vet out asap
 
Just to add my 2 pence worth, my horse has had similar symptoms to your horse, we finally have a diagnosis (difficult horse for vets) and he has fractured his pedal bone. Definitely worth having the vet look. 3 weeks lame is too long for a sore foot.
 
Ok, so... Horse has had two abscesses in two weeks in different feet and now has presented with inexplicable lameness and high pulse in foot. Horse has bad feet requiring remedial shoeing and farrier thinks new lameness is due to bad feet.

I'd get the vet out and have some X-rays to be safe but I'd also get a different farrier in. Abscesses can be caused by bad shoeing, poor feet are generally the result of poor foot management.

All roads seem to lead to you needing to change the management of your horses feet, regardless of whether this new lameness is farrier-related or not.

This is what I'd do, anyway.
 
OP I do hope you got the vet out to do a check up on your horse.

Farriers can be useful, as can experienced YO's for helping with mild cases of lameness IE bruised sole/abcess. But they fact it has come back nastier than it was several weeks ago would have me suspicious and concerned. It may not require lots of tests/x rays etc but a vet will be able to go through the correct processes to help determine what it is, and if not the course to take to help eliminate any conditions such as lami etc.

Having had a horse that kept pulling shoes with crap feet from previous owner, bad diet and shoeing, I can tell you it was fairly easy to determine I had a footy horse. Vet checked- no issues, tack all fine, no back issues, farrier suggested removal of shoes due to absolutely nothing there (this is where we determined she was footy as shoes had helped to disguise this), change in diet, rested out in the field for a couple of months to allow growth, brought back into work on soft surfaces, then hard, then rough terrain (where her footiness orginally showed). It was not a hard diagnosis and a horse that is hopping lame- especially if still showing/or no improvement on softer surfaces, I would probably assume it was not just footiness...

We are not vets on HHO however and all replies are based on assumptions made from your descriptions, and so call a real one!

wishing your horse a speedy recovery either way.
 
You could do more damage by turning out. Alternatively you could do more damage by leaving in. Best to get it sorted and get a trot work up to establish what is wrong, where its wrong and how to treat whatever it is.
 
He's sound.
Vet and Yo's farrier both agreed it would have been bruising from the abscess. Vet was pleased and said I'd done the right thing - she would have only said a week's box rest if she had come out earlier.
He's going out for 2 days then I can start bringing him back into work.
 
Dumbo said:
He's sound.
Vet and Yo's farrier both agreed it would have been bruising from the abscess. Vet was pleased and said I'd done the right thing - she would have only said a week's box rest if she had come out earlier.
He's going out for 2 days then I can start bringing him back into work.
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Glad he is OK :)
 
Dumbo said:
He's sound.
Vet and Yo's farrier both agreed it would have been bruising from the abscess. Vet was pleased and said I'd done the right thing - she would have only said a week's box rest if she had come out earlier.
He's going out for 2 days then I can start bringing him back into work.
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Why did you call the vet if the horse was sound?
 
Dumbo said:
He's sound.
Vet and Yo's farrier both agreed it would have been bruising from the abscess. Vet was pleased and said I'd done the right thing - she would have only said a week's box rest if she had come out earlier.
He's going out for 2 days then I can start bringing him back into work.
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Good thing. Had it been anything else your horse could have suffered badly.
 
Dumbo said:
He's sound.
Vet and Yo's farrier both agreed it would have been bruising from the abscess. Vet was pleased and said I'd done the right thing - she would have only said a week's box rest if she had come out earlier.
He's going out for 2 days then I can start bringing him back into work.
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So, not concussion then? Terribly confused.

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