Horse mutilation

[FionaM12]

I am simply saying that I suspect that this acts have been carried out by some individual or individuals that have some different motives to what you would expect.

I don't really understand why you suspect this though.

 

[jonisaigon]

Because of many, many reasons. The main thing being the amount of effort involved and systematic damage caused, the FACT that these incidents always happen on Full moon lit nights ( I havent made that up, that is fact) whether anyone wants to laugh at that , it happens to be the truth.
The fact that I know I have n't upset anyone so I dont think it is a vendetta and that other people locally have had the same problems, and I dont think it is kids.
The prescription drugs packets I always find are heart drugs and stomach acid drugs and the real ale bottles , sorry if that gave everyone such a laugh , wow I think I will start writing comedy if it is that easy.
What I meant by that is that I dont really think kids drink that stuff and not many kids are on heart medication!
Just perplexed that many people seem to want to laugh about this situation.
If I knew how to attach a photo of the foal I would do, but it really is so upsetting that I would have to warn people before showing it.
I am not a soft lad either , I have been brought up on a farm and I thought I had seen it all. I look after my animals but I am not neuritic about them but it really did upset me to see an animal suffer like this. Glad many people saw fit to goad and laugh at me

 

[Clava]

, the FACT that these incidents always happen on Full moon lit nights ( I havent made that up, that is fact) whether anyone wants to laugh at that , it happens to be the truth.

Well it is easier for people to see what they are doing under a full moon, vandal, thieves or youths out for a laugh.

 

[YorksG]

Occult means secret.

I follow Crowley/Isreal Regardie/Golden Dawn - hence I spell magik with a 'k' - you cannot bracket it with satanism in any way, shape or form!

As I said, if we use blood, we use or own, as do Odinists, Fenrites, and other norse followers.

Surely Crowley followed satanism. blood sacrifice was not unknown and was not the practitioners blood! There are people who purport to be satanists, follow Crowley and believe that this permits them to do harm to others, based on their religeous beliefs.

 

[Queenbee]

I m not interested in everybodys so called expertise in the occult , paganism, witchcraft, satanism and everything else everyone seems to think it is funny to spout on about. I am simply saying that I suspect that this acts have been carried out by some individual or individuals that have some different motives to what you would expect.
I cant believe how many of you horse lovers seem to be showing no sympathy or empathy for me as an owner and some people seem to have no thought at all for the animals involved and choose to trip me up on the choice of terminology I have used to provide some cheap laughs.
So far I have yet to see the funny side and I am grateful to some of the people who have private messaged me and do seem to know what they are talking about and do agree with some of my observations and thought process.
As I have said all along I dont KNOW for sure what is happening I simply suspect, I havent pointed the finger at anyone I just wanted to know if anyone has or is experiencing similar incidents.

In short OP I would say grow up, your statement that we are not or the majority of us are not showing sympathy just shows how wrong you are. The facts are (if you re read this thread) that you have been extended great sympathy as have your horses for being on the recieving end of such a vile act, by nearly everyone.

Yes, the majority of posters do feel your accusations about ritualistic blood letting, and marking, and the occult are, laughable and ludicrous. You asked what our opinion is, and it is that.

Just because we have sympathy for you and your horses and hope the perpetrators are caught, does not mean we can not point out that we disagree with you on motive and voice our feelings about this... as per your request.

Our sympathy for you and the occult motive issue are two different topics.

If you just wanted sympathy you should not have come on her pointing the finger at any group of people, just because of their beliefs. Furthermore, the Young Farmers brigade drink real ales down here does that make them culprits too?

Slashing all your crops for the winter sounds like a vendetta and I would think anyone who may have had a revenge attack. Do you really think that people should agree if deep down they do not? You seem to suggest that people are being unsympathetic by not agreeing that it could be occultist.

 

[misterjinglejay]

If you read Crowley's teaching and take them with the pinch of salt that he himself recommended, you will see that is not what he taught at all.

Yes, 'blood sacrifice' was used, but using his own blood - not from others. it was all very theatric, and tongue in cheek.

Nothing permits one to do harm to others, it is ethically, morally, and legally wrong in any sphere.

His infamous phrase 'Do what thou wilt....' is a clear message to carry your own ego, take responsibility for your own actions and take the concequences. It is often wrongly interpreted to mean do whatever you want.

Surely to be a satanist, you must also be christian; satan is a christian figure, and thus exists only in the christian ethos. Interestingly, in the Book of Enoch, when Lucifer, the Light Bringer was sent down to Earth - the Fall, with the archangels, he was the one that taught women how to make and use cosmetics (sorry this has gone way off track).

Most of Crowley's teaching meld very well with the wicca path I tread, and the bits that don't, I don't use. Simple as..... Nothing is a doctrine, all is fluid.

Anyway, back to the far more serious, and important, subject of horse mutilations (sorry OP for getting carried away!)

 

[fburton]

In short OP I would say grow up, your statement that we are not or the majority of us are not showing sympathy just shows how wrong you are.

Or else the majority of us are secret satanists (or secret santaists, or both).

 

[FionaM12]

Or else the majority of us are secret satanists (or secret santaists, or both).

Or we could be

some hippy type who doesn't agree with enclosure or land ownership.

 

[misterjinglejay]

Secret santaists

 

[Jim Moriarty]

His infamous phrase 'Do what thou wilt....' is a clear message to carry your own ego, take responsibility for your own actions and take the concequences. It is often wrongly interpreted to mean do whatever you want.

Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law - Love is the law, love under will.

Effectively no different in intent from the Christian tenet of 'do unto others as you would have them do to you'.

Surely to be a satanist, you must also be christian; satan is a christian figure, and thus exists only in the christian ethos. Interestingly, in the Book of Enoch, when Lucifer, the Light Bringer was sent down to Earth - the Fall, with the archangels, he was the one that taught women how to make and use cosmetics (sorry this has gone way off track).

The concept of something Satanic, per se, exists in several belief systems, including the three major Abrahamic traditions.