Horse on trial with view to buy - owner know wants a loan....

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I have had a rising 4 yr old on trial with VTB for the last month. We agreed a price up front.
Horse was broken and turned away last year having been worked with about 20 times.

Since having said horse I have introduced it to everything - longreined, loading, hacked in company and alone, farrier, dentist, trimming etc and also had a pro help school it.

The owner came yesterday with her new man who rides. She left saying how brilliantly the horse had come along and how wonderful it was to see it growing up.
Today I have had an email saying she is not ready to seel and would I consider a years loan .....

OH says leaqve it as he doesn't trust her not to take a back a nicely produced 5 yr old next year ...
but I am starting to bond with it.....

WWYD ...
 
By the sounds of it to me, she's ready to let you do the work and then take her much improved horse back!

Leave it, or purchase would be my honest opinion!
 
TommisMum said:
I have had a rising 4 yr old on trial with VTB for the last month. We agreed a price up front.
Horse was broken and turned away last year having been worked with about 20 times.

Since having said horse I have introduced it to everything - longreined, loading, hacked in company and alone, farrier, dentist, trimming etc and also had a pro help school it.

The owner came yesterday with her new man who rides. She left saying how brilliantly the horse had come along and how wonderful it was to see it growing up.
Today I have had an email saying she is not ready to seel and would I consider a years loan .....

OH says leaqve it as he doesn't trust her not to take a back a nicely produced 5 yr old next year ...
but I am starting to bond with it.....

WWYD ...
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I'd tell her she is a cheeky bint, has broken terms of agreement and she can collect the horse immediately.

Bringing on a youngster takes a huge amount of time, patience, money and expertise. You are not her free schooling livery!
 
Step away from the horse now. You will be more heart broken in 12 months time when she takes it back after you have worked hard for 12 months. I think she's very cheeky tbh
 
See loads of these on fb, it's amazing how many people want to loan out their 'unbroken 3 year olds with fantastic prospects' no idea why...
I'd sent it back (or buy it if poss) you may have started to bond now but think how much more gutted you'll be in 12 months after all your hard work.
 
Give the horse back, tell the owner she is taking the piss and to go and pay for this work to be done by someone else, with the operative word being PAY FOR. Thre really are some odd people around.
 
I assume you want the horse. Do you have a written agreement?

If yes, hold her to the terms of it, and pay the money. If no, reiterate your offer in a 'take it or leave it' way.

Don't spend a year producing a nice horse for her.

Good luck.
 
Email back saying you are not comfortable with loaning so you would like to return the horse ASAP as you have another to look at. Calling her bluff might force her hand.
 
Send back asap! Unless you are happy to bring on the horse for free for 12 months, then have her taken away when you've bonded even more.

I'd make it clear to the owner that I was very upset and that as she'd breached the LWVB arrangements you'll be charging her full livery from today until she comes to collect the horse and that you won't be doing anything other than basic care from today. Sounds like just the sort that 'won't be able to arrange transport for a couple of weeks' just so she gets a few more weeks free schooling livery from you.

If she won't stick to an agreement now what makes you think she will in 12 months time?
 
I would say walk away. She was clearly not upfront at the start, or hernew man is just greedy!

I sent my horse off on Loan with the purpose that the loanee WAS improving him, but I never planned to sell him on or anything. But the loanee knew this as I was terrified of said horse!
 
jemima*askin said:
How long was the "loan" period supposed to be before you bought it?
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I wonder too?

TBH, I'm asking myself why it has taken you so long to buy? Isn't it usually something you would do within a few weeks/months?

If it was your choice to wait, then you have painted yourself into a corner.:(
 
Trial period was 2 months we are part way through it was never a loan .... the time is due to horse is believed to have sweet itch so I wanted the midges out to see how bad...
Do have a written agreement which gives me right to buy at agreed price in a fortnight. But if owner wont give a receipt or take the money I'm a bit up the swanny without a paddle...

All of you have wise words ....

Jemime*askin .....Was previously Madabout .... but lost my Mojo....
 
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Would definitely return the horse to the seller ASAP but would also reply to email stating that the terms were LWVTB and NOT a loan and if she is changing the terms of the agreement (verbal or otherwise) then you are rightly changing yours too and that she will now owe you £X amount for livery and schooling charges.

Damned cheek!
 
TommisMum said:
Trial period was 2 months we are part way through .... (horse is believed to have sweet itch so I wanted the midges out to see how bad...)
Do have a written agreement.
All of you have wise words ....

Jemime*askin .....Was previously Madabout .... but lost my Mojo....
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Send back then. Sadly you have no choice.
 
ditto the others!!!


buy it now or hand back! the cheek of her!!!!!!!!!!!


id never loan again for exactly this reason.....put loads of hard work into the horse and then months later get them snatched back......!!
 
OP you're right you can't force her to sell which is why written agreements are useful to a point - ultimately they are worthless.

Have you seen enough of the sweetitch to make a decision now - tricky I'd imagine with the spring weather being so late. I'd still be calling her today and saying you'll buy her today or she comes to collect her today - no more risk in it for you then.
 
Polos Mum said:
Have you seen enough of the sweetitch to make a decision now - tricky I'd imagine with the spring weather being so late. I'd still be calling her today and saying you'll buy her today or she comes to collect her today - no more risk in it for you then.
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Agree with this. No point getting shirty, just offer to buy it now if you still want it or ask for it to be taken back immediately.
 
That's an awful thing to happen to you.
You have no choice , email her say you will buy it at the agreed price or return it at once .
Not fair at all.
 
Even if the agreement was verbal it would be a contract to sell but the fact you have it in writing means that there is no doubt that both of you entered in to an agreement that if you so wished you could purchase the horse after the trial period.

All you have to do is to give/send a cheque (if you give the cheque in person have a witness and if you send then send by Royal Mail Special Delivery) for the amount agreed and the horse is yours.

The fact that the vendor fails to bank the cheque is of no consequence as you have a written agreement to sell the horse to you.
 
Give the horse back this weekend (or buy if she is willing to sell). Don't leave it any later as you will get hurt and you don't want to put all your effort time and money into something for nothing.
I feel for you as I got my boy on LWVTB. Luckily the owner was very straight as I fell in love with the horse straight away and I put so much time and effort into him. I was so lucky that the owner kept her word and sold him to me for the price we agreed on at the beginning as it quickly came apparent with some one to one just how useful he was!

I'm so grateful to her for standing by her word as it would have crushed me to return him. Your horses owner is being selfish and cheeky but if she wants him back... she wants him back, you haven't a leg to stand on :(.
 
Since she will have broken the terms of the agreement I would reply telling her to come and collect it and bring the money for its keep shoes lessons etc to date. I would imagine she will change her mind pronto and sell to you assuming you have enough idea of how the sweet itch will be
 
I would reply telling her that as she has broken the verbal agreement she needs to come and pick the horse up within the next 24 hours and bring with her £X for Dentist, £x for Farrier, £ for schooling and education and £x for livery for the past 4 weeks. Or she can take the £x she agreed to sell him for. You are not a mug! My youngster recently went away for schooling and I was charged £140 per week all in - not including farrier and dentist so you could use this as a benchmark...

Please don't keep this horse on loan... she will take it back in a years time and either have it for herself or sell it for a profit.
 
hnmisty said:
Completely agree with your OH.

Nice way of getting your horse brought on for free.
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Me too. Call her bluff and remind her that you agreed LWVTB. I'd also remind her of the costs incurred with regards to the professional help and that you will bill her for those costs if the sale falls through.
 
Echo what everyone else has said. Reply to her saying you wish to buy (assuming you're happy with the sweet itch) not loan and that if she is not happy with that to collect the horse within 24 hours and as she is breaching your contract you expect £X to cover the costs of bringing him on over the last few weeks.

Considering how the owner has conducted herself so far there is no way I would loan the horse for a year, especially as you say you've already started to bond with it as you're only going to end up heartbroken this time next year when she takes the horse back.
 
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