Horse passed vetting but one bad point?!

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Just a quick question, a friend of mine has just had a horse vetted, he is perfect in every way. He has passed the vetting but has found a very small lump near his umbilical (sp)! cord possible sarcoid. He has passed the horse but has to make the point for insurance reasons. The vetting was perfect otherwise.

Should she still go ahead and purchase the horse?! I have bo experience of sarcoids.

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He has said he isn't sure what it is, 'possible sarcoid' but has said if you start taking bloods from it it might irritate it.
 
I think that no horse will be absolutely perfect, even if theres nothing wrong now the vet would probally be able to warn you about something that could develop in the future
 
But presumably insurance would then exclude the horse for sarcoids?

The insurer we use excluded our mare's left hock after vet's 'passing comment' about scars on her hock having 'cosmetic impact'. I had to get the vet's partner to send a letter stating that the hock was normal and had caused no probs at renewal to get the exclusion removed.

Given the cost of sarcoid treatment it's worth clarifying...
 
If the horse has passed an all singing all dancing 5 stage vetting with flying colours then it wouldn't stop me, its not easy these days to find your perfect horse and then pass a full stage vetting to meet your requirements, I had a horse with sarcoids and they were successfully removed by our vet, and never had any probs!
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IMO i wouldnt want the complication of even poss sarcoid and unless you have a bottomless wallet, an exclusion from an insurer is a huge undertaking, when sarcoids are long treating and need regular investigation!! i wouldnt knowingly buy a horse with sarcoids, but if a horse developed them i would cope, and in which case then would have backing of insurance!!!
 
My horse had one is a really similar place - I still brought her, had uneffected her for years but I still had it taken off as a precaution. It has never effected her way off going and 3years on hasn't regrown or caused a problem
 
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IMO i wouldnt want the complication of even poss sarcoid and unless you have a bottomless wallet

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I;ve known quite a few horses with sarcoids - not one of them has been a bottomless pit money wise. Even the worst affected one.......
 
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IMO i wouldnt want the complication of even poss sarcoid and unless you have a bottomless wallet

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I;ve known quite a few horses with sarcoids - not one of them has been a bottomless pit money wise. Even the worst affected one.......

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What about impact on the horse, I bought one with one on it's chest, never thought much about it until he started getting them near his eyes, on his girth area and then his groin area - the impact was time off so not able to compete and also the risk of them coming back, which they did. Personally if thevet thought that it might be I would get a second opinion for clarification and if it was a sarcoid I would stay well clear.
 
That is a good point LP. Happily only one - the worst affected - had one (two actually) that were real problems. Face and girth.

But can understand people's caution if they have had particularly bad experiences themselves with sarcoids.

It's a judgement call I suppose isn't it??
 
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i was on a yard where 2 horses had sarcoids, one had creams ect ect (they still spread)for a year costing a fortune and regular checks from the vet, the other was operated on and they came back with avengence, caused all kinds of problems and money,,,, the vet at the time said sometimes horses get them due to changes in imune system ratio,,, !!! wouldnt want the complication knowingly!!!!!
 
i personally would not buy a horse with the possibility of it having a sarcoid, especially if now it would be noted on the insurance and excluded. i had a friend who's horse developed one on his sheath and it cost her a small fortune and it never did go.
 
My friend's horse has a sarcoid on her tummy and its never caused her any bother. However I don't really have any experience with them. Don't know if I would buy a horse with them. I would see if I could get it clarified as to what it actually was. It might not even be a sarcoid. You could find it is actually something more problematic. Maybe get a second opinion?

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Personally I wouldnt, unless of course this is a dream horse in every other way.

I dont think they are bad, I would just rather spend my money on a horse without them. Saying that any horse can get one
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Personally i wouldn’t - have had friends who've experienced all manner of problems with them spreading etc (although that's not to say all sarcoids spread or even become and issue for those that have them).
Also something to bear in mind is that no one knows what's round the corner and if your friend ever needed to sell the horse in a hurry she might encounter problems with buyers etc.
 
I wouldn't touch anything with even a possible sarcoid. I have seen it go badly wrong twice now. One was sold as a brood mare as she was so covered that she couldn't wear tack, and due to very unfortunate circumstances the other horse had to be destroyed.

I guess everyone has their pet hates. Mine are sarcoids and laminitis. It doesn't matter how perfect the horse was in other ways, those two would mean rejection with no hesitation.

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Re the insurance exclusions, one of our mares stuffed her face with wilted nettles, got an impaction colic, the insurance paid about £50 towards the vet bills and then excluded ALL colic in the future. So I would not think that the exclusion for sarcoids is a big issue, they exclude just about any darn thing.
 
If the horse is an older horse, then i wouldnt worry unduly, if it is a younger horse (under 5) then you may be more concerned it could spread etc.
 
There are six types of sarcoids, all of them of different invasiveness and likeliness to spread or recur so it's impossible to tell really. I've had three horses with sarcoid, one dropped off the sheath, the other grew some years, was inactive in others but was on his chest and did not affect him at all, and the third one disappeared before we could confirm if it was a sarcoid. On the other hand the horse I had with melanomas had to be PTS because they were spreading everywhere, but that was 10 years later which is a good, long time to have a horse.

I wouldn't hesitate in buying this horse, you will never find anything with a clear vetting and if you do it'll get kicked the first day you bring it home and break its leg!
 
i had a pony with a sarcoid, dropped off within 2 years and never re grew, so i would actualy concider it, probably get a 2nd oppinion about it though.
 
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