Horse psychic - sceptic

[nagblagger]

Some of you may know I purchased a mare during lockdown, history unknown. She has many issues, obviously from 'firm handling' in the past. We have developed a strong bond through time, patience, no whips or raised voices and she has become a character with her own personality. I would love to find out what she is thinking and/or what she has been through and someone suggested a horse psychic. I am a bit of a sceptic so was wondering if anyone has used one, would share their experience either good or bad...thank you

 

[Caol Ila]

I used one once, years ago, when my mare completely malfunctioned after a yard move. I was desperate. My horse who had perfect ground manners became almost unhandleable when she was in the barn by herself, like if you brought her in to be ridden before YOs brought the neighbor in, or God forbid, the neighbor's owner took it out on a ride. She'd always had some strange behaviours, but this was new.

I learned that the neighbour, apparently, reminded my horse of her mother.

I learned that my mare evented (not sure when, given that the previous owner bought her as a 2-year old from the breeder and didn't even teach her to jump in the five years she owned her).

I learned she once had a deep relationship with a young boy. Again, not sure when. Previous owner didn't (and still doesn't) have kids.

I learned she might have had a foal (nope... unlike my current mare).

I learned she likes cows. Very nope. Unless you assume "liking" means spinning and bolting in the opposite direction.

Then I got a few sentences about checking her teeth and checking for ulcers. Like I hadn't already tried those very standard things.

 

[Lois Lame]

I used one once, years ago, when my mare completely malfunctioned after a yard move. I was desperate...

I learned that the neighbour, apparently, reminded my horse of her mother.

Oh that was funny. Loved it.

I'm not a believer in horse psychics but I do believe in people who can read animals well, like my partner. I doubt he can read them THAT well though.

 

[Peglo]

I got one to Flo. Mostly out of curiosity and I liked the idea but wasn’t sure about it. TBH still have no idea.
He was in a different shed when he ‘spoke’ to her. Didn’t meet her until after the reading.
he found out she was older. True
threatened to kick in the stable because she didn’t want tacked up. False. Never tacked up in the stable.
She would stand at the top of a hill and look out and think of missed opportunities. False. No hills in her fields.
can’t really remember anything else that was said. It was all a bit odd. Probably would get one again though. Still pretty curious

 

[Caol Ila]

I should say that I made her job hard by asking very vague, not leading questions. Instead of, “Why does my horse fence walk?” I asked, “How does my horse feel about her turn out arrangements?” That sort of thing. The answers were generic waffle that applies to most horses, “she likes being out with her friends,” (not addressing the fence walking) interspersed with random and bizarre details, like the cow thing.

 

[Gloi]

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[Cherryblossom]

I remember my old boss on an eventing yard getting a telephone psychic reading on one horse. We had to leave the phone in the stable for 20mins so she could talk to the horse. I imagine she went and got a cuppa before coming back and telling us the the competition horse ‘felt under pressure to perform’.

Nice work if you can get it!

 

[littleshetland]

Now no sniggering, but Ive used AC's (animal communicators) occasionally over the years. One or two Ive tried have obviously been charlatans, fed me a load of garbage and happily taken my money leaving me feeling like the complete twit that I am sometimes.....and one two have been completely amazing and have genuinely helped me shed light on some problems that I've had. There are good and bad practitioners out there. If you're lucky enough to find a truly genuine one then they can be enormously helpful......ok, you can snigger now.

 

[poiuytrewq]

I remember my old boss on an eventing yard getting a telephone psychic reading on one horse. We had to leave the phone in the stable for 20mins so she could talk to the horse. I imagine she went and got a cuppa before coming back and telling us the the competition horse ‘felt under pressure to perform’.

Nice work if you can get it!

Hell! Was going to say I may retrain as a horse communicator for that kind of gig…. Don’t expect much training Is involved though ??

 

[Equi]

I used one once, years ago, when my mare completely malfunctioned after a yard move. I was desperate. My horse who had perfect ground manners became almost unhandleable when she was in the barn by herself, like if you brought her in to be ridden before YOs brought the neighbor in, or God forbid, the neighbor's owner took it out on a ride. She'd always had some strange behaviours, but this was new.

I learned that the neighbour, apparently, reminded my horse of her mother.

I learned that my mare evented (not sure when, given that the previous owner bought her as a 2-year old from the breeder and didn't even teach her to jump in the five years she owned her).

I learned she once had a deep relationship with a young boy. Again, not sure when. Previous owner didn't (and still doesn't) have kids.

I learned she might have had a foal (nope... unlike my current mare).

I learned she likes cows. Very nope. Unless you assume "liking" means spinning and bolting in the opposite direction.

Then I got a few sentences about checking her teeth and checking for ulcers. Like I hadn't already tried those very standard things.

Ahh the old mother line. I was once told my 19yo boys anxiety was due to missing his mother by a potential sharer lol

 

[Antw23uk]

A friend of mine has used one who took a hair sample? I dont know all the details but apparently they've seen her a few times for various horses and on her advise they have changed the way they treat said horse with good results (again i dont know the details) He did say tho they had one who was ready to be shot and this woman was spot on with her advise to them and talked about how he felt and wanted to be treated ... they treated him that way and he went from nearly being PTS to the most amazing horse, which i think they still have now.

I'll sheepishly admit im going to call her about my boy who is rather sensitive and i have no history on him other than he would have been handled a little too firmly shall we say!

 

[dorsetladette]

So a few years ago there was one visiting a local yard who regularly ran a clear round. We popped up with B, had her talk to him and got a free clear round thrown in for good measure (bonus). She told us B was very happy with us and didn't like his previous home. (people pleasing).

Then when Benjamin Brown went off for breaking, the lovely pro suggested we get someone to him to see what he said about his past. (it turned out to be the same person) I don't know what the pro told the psychic, but she told us he had been kneed in the stomach and hit while having a saddle introduced in the past. certainly all that was said matched his behaviour. Apparently he really enjoyed being at the pro's yard (really??!!) and was loving learning new things even through they were a bit scary.

For context BB dumped the pro a week later and put her in hospital - he was evicted from the yard the following day

 

[Cortez]

I got one to Flo. Mostly out of curiosity and I liked the idea but wasn’t sure about it. TBH still have no idea.
He was in a different shed when he ‘spoke’ to her. Didn’t meet her until after the reading.
he found out she was older. True
threatened to kick in the stable because she didn’t want tacked up. False. Never tacked up in the stable.
She would stand at the top of a hill and look out and think of missed opportunities. False. No hills in her fields.
can’t really remember anything else that was said. It was all a bit odd. Probably would get one again though. Still pretty curious

Good lord, why? It’s obvious nonsense, preying on people’s sentimentality and foolishness.

 

[Rowreach]

Good lord, why? It’s obvious nonsense, preying on people’s sentimentality and foolishness.

I do believe that good horsepeople can "read" horses much of the time, but not in a Mystic Meg/crystal ball/hokum pocum kind of way ?

 

[ihatework]

*whispers quietly* this sceptical scientist has used an AC twice.

Different ACs.

First time on the 3 horses I had at the time. It was complete and utter Mumbo Jumbo, literally nothing said reflected any of the horses.

Second time on 2 horses. Scarily accurate and with very specific details that there was no way the AC would have known. I told the AC nothing about me or the horses and they wouldn’t have been able to glean what they said off the Internet.

 

[Peglo]

Good lord, why? It’s obvious nonsense, preying on people’s sentimentality and foolishness.

i honestly don’t know ? I like the idea although I’m no convinced it’s real. I’m quite intrigued by people so find it interesting watching them and hearing what they come up with when it comes to psychic stuff.

but your probably right. For people who has an emotional attachment and need to believe in it, I probably shouldn’t encourage these ‘psychics’ to carry on taking their money because I’m curious.

 

[nagblagger]

If you get the details of them Antw23uk can you PM me and ihatework the 2nd AC details. if I do go ahead it will be with scepticism and giving them the minimal details about her - out of curiosity. At the end of the day what harm can it do - expect a fool easily parts with money!
In the past i have had my cards read, the last one was uncannily accurate, almost scarily accurate - it was booked on a whim with a friend so they wouldn't have time to do any homework on facebook or twitter as I am not on any of those sights.. i think i am what they class as 'open minded' (or stupid!)

 

[Regandal]

I read about one encounter in a book by John Lyons, I think. He met an owner of valuable stallions, one was a bit narky and had bitten one of the owners fingers off. Owner contacted a communicator who asked to ‘speak’ to the horse on the phone. After a few minutes, he relayed to the owner that the stallion was jealous of the attention that the other stallion was getting, and if he didn’t stop it, the stallion would bite another finger off!

 

[littleshetland]

Good lord, why? It’s obvious nonsense, preying on people’s sentimentality and foolishness.

'There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.'

 

[Annagain]

I don't really believe in it all - especially the ones who do it from a photo but there's no real harm in it (other than relieving people of their hard-earned) so I wouldn't judge anyone for doing it. They're never going to tell an owner the horse needs beating or starving are they. Their money their choice.

Having said that my dental vet often says she sees colours around the horses which she interprets as their emotions. Monty exudes pink which is love apparently and Archie blue which is calm. It kind of fits. I've never asked for or paid for this but I'll happily let her carry on. She's also a fully qualified vet and lecturer so not the sort you'd expect to say that sort of thing.

 

[Caol Ila]

Ahh the old mother line. I was once told my 19yo boys anxiety was due to missing his mother by a potential sharer lol

I mean, there's something to the mother line. There is increasingly more evidence suggesting that early/traumatic weaning can lead to stereotypies like box-walking, fencewalking, and separaion anxiety-type behaviour. But it's a big anthropomorphic leap to then say that a certain horse reminds your horse of its mother!

 

[smolmaus]

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Having said that my dental vet often says she sees colours around the horses which she interprets as their emotions. Monty exudes pink which is love apparently and Archie blue which is calm. It kind of fits. I've never asked for or paid for this but I'll happily let her carry on. She's also a fully qualified vet and lecturer so not the sort you'd expect to say that sort of thing.

I mean synesthesia is a real thing. If someone can associate colours with numbers or days of the week it's only a small jump to associating colours with certain people or horses.

I'm afraid I lump all of the psychic readers into the same emotionally exploitative pot as the ones who do readings for bereaved people and tell them stuff like their miscarried child is communicating with them from the beyond and they need a reading every month to stay in contact. Obviously there are degrees and someone thinking their horse really loves their yellow bucket isn't exactly the same thing but it all just gives me the ick.

 

[Blanche]

I don't really believe in it all - especially the ones who do it from a photo but there's no real harm in it (other than relieving people of their hard-earned) so I wouldn't judge anyone for doing it. They're never going to tell an owner the horse needs beating or starving are they. Their money their choice.

Having said that my dental vet often says she sees colours around the horses which she interprets as their emotions. Monty exudes pink which is love apparently and Archie blue which is calm. It kind of fits. I've never asked for or paid for this but I'll happily let her carry on. She's also a fully qualified vet and lecturer so not the sort you'd expect to say that sort of thing.

I see colours around animals, sometimes people. I have never actually told anyone before as I thought everyone would think I was baths!t crazy. The most common colour I see is pink( I call it the pink cloud, didn’t realise it was an aura), which I always feel a huge rush of love when seeing it. I also see it more when an animal is pts.

 

[Annagain]

I mean synesthesia is a real thing. If someone can associate colours with numbers or days of the week it's only a small jump to associating colours with certain people or horses.

I know that - it's the interpretation of the colour as the horse's emotion that I struggle with but Blanche has said she sees the same thing so maybe I'm just a giant cynic. I'm not so arrogant to think that because I can't see it nobody can.

 

[Winters100]

Never used one and never would, but I do know someone who did to satisfy their teenage daughter. It was by phone and they gave very few details about the pony in question, but were told that he misbehaved because he didn't like the horse in the next stable (he lived out 24/7 in a pack and had no particular behavioral problems), that his saddle did not fit properly (he was retired years before and had no saddle), and that he dreamed of being a top showjumper (we can all have dreams, but he was a Shetland, so this seems to be rather optimistic).

 

[ecb89]

I had one to see my lad. I was a massive sceptic. I tried very hard to give nothing away with facial expression, body language etc. She was bang on about him, his personality, my personality, my riding goals, my riding fears. This woman knew nothing about me.

 

[smolmaus]

I know that - it's the interpretation of the colour as the horse's emotion that I struggle with but Blanche has said she sees the same thing so maybe I'm just a giant cynic. I'm not so arrogant to think that because I can't see it nobody can.

The interpretation of the colours pink=love and blue=calm seem to be pretty "standard" in terms of how society in general sees and uses those colours. It makes sense that if a brain is choosing to associate a colour with an emotion or a person or a horse etc it would choose the ones that it has already learned to associate with those things.

I see colours around animals, sometimes people. I have never actually told anyone before as I thought everyone would think I was baths!t crazy. The most common colour I see is pink( I call it the pink cloud, didn’t realise it was an aura), which I always feel a huge rush of love when seeing it. I also see it more when an animal is pts.

Not batshit at all! Just your brain wiring itself up in an interesting way!

 

[Birker2020]

Had the lady we all use on the yard who is a Reiki Grandmaster and also a horse whisperer. She is marvellous, I'd say 90% of the 15 or so of us that have used her would rate her highly.

She told me the first time I had Bailey 'read' that she could see a number of horses in the stable with us, one horse with wobbly legs (my wobblers horse) and also 'a horse that had to leave me suddenly, his chest hurt' (Billy who dropped down dead of a heart attack). She also mentioned my cat that I'd lost 19 years prior, I'd never told anyone on the yard about the fact we had a cat when I was a child, she not only named the colour but the sex of the cat correctly. I only had her because I couldn't Gel with Bailey, I'd lost four horses in quick succession and was terrified I'd fall in love again and lose her. She reassured me I'd have her until she was 21, that was the only time ****** was wrong as I had Bailey until she was 24.

Since that time she's mentioned various things like I'd stopped feeding Bailey a supplement with a burgundy lid (Red Cell) and that she had an issue with her near fore. This was about 8 years ago, she was pts with her near fore issue, so maybe she saw it was trouble even then, or maybe it was just luck that she mentioned it. She also said she missed her 'nuts'. I said that she had them every night in her snakaball and the whisperer said 'no, not those type, these are very small, fine nuts'. I had to laugh as I literally the week before I'd thrown away her untouched bag of Veteran Vitality Light, previous to that I'd fed her the full fat version but it made her too fat so I gave her the non fat version which she wouldn't touch!

The last reading was about 9 months before she was pts. The lady said she was bored because she wanted to do things (her continued lameness prevented me doing much). She also said that Bailey pleaded with her to tell me to get the dentist out to her. Initially I scoffed at the idea as the vet had rasped her teeth three months prior. But Bailey was persistent and saying "please tell Mum she has to call the dentist". In the end I rang the EDT and he came out, opened her mouth, took one look and said she had a huge 'slab fracture' of an upper back tooth, something the whisperer could never have diagnosed from sight or watching her eat as she was eating normally. Hence tooth was removed! There were lots and lots of other instances over the years, most of them are lost to me now.

But during the last reading with the nuts and the tooth the final thing she said to me which has stuck in my mind, and I get quite choked up when I describe this to people, but she said "Bailey has said please don't let anyone use her headcollar, she says its mine, I don't want anyone else using it". I told the lady that she was most certainly wrong on this as I'd never have dreamt putting her headcollar on another horse as there was no reason to.

After ****** had gone I spoke to one of the staff who was on their lunch break in the tea room and relayed what *****had said to me about the headcollar. The chap looked sheepish and then admitted that the previous week a new horse had come for a weeks holiday and when she'd turned her horse out in the paddock she'd not left the horses headcollar on the gate. As it was a big horse the only one that fitted was Bails headcollar so he'd understandably borrowed it in order to get her horse in from the field before going back for Bailey.

When Bailey was pts the new horse had all her hand me downs. The only thing that Lari will never wear belonging to Bailey is her headcollar which is in my wardrobe along with a length of her tail. And there it will stay. The only trouble is Bailey had a number of headcollars so all of them are out of action now.

She is an animal communicator and a Reiki Grandmaster, if anyone wants her details she covers the Midlands area.

 

[Birker2020]

Never used one and never would, but I do know someone who did to satisfy their teenage daughter. It was by phone and they gave very few details about the pony in question, but were told that he misbehaved because he didn't like the horse in the next stable (he lived out 24/7 in a pack and had no particular behavioral problems), that his saddle did not fit properly (he was retired years before and had no saddle), and that he dreamed of being a top showjumper (we can all have dreams, but he was a Shetland, so this seems to be rather optimistic).

Hilarious.

like anything there are frauds out there.

 

[nagblagger]

If anyone has a positive experience please can you pm me with their details..interesting reading..?