Horse really unsettled

[poiuytrewq]

I bought him last winter and he was like this , well a lot worse actually when I got him, put that down to a new home etc
He did settle after time.
Now he’s being a nightmare. It’s like the hunt is around in the morning. He’s listening, careering round the field, chasing the others away from me. I can always catch him but have gone from them all waiting at the gate to having to follow him round a while. He’s then rude and bolshy in the stable, dashing from door to back window between gulps of food.
He does settle inside but can’t stay in 24/7 and doesn’t want too. By afternoon he’s ready for dinner and turnout where it all starts again ?‍ One morning he was actually out of his field. Electric on, fence intact.
He’s warm enough. I don’t rug as well as his old owner but he feels fine.
They had a bit of grass, not much but the others have their heads down. I’m also putting hay out, there’s always hay left over in the morning.
I’m really trying hard to stick with out at night and I’m during the day because first I prefer it, it’s easier having him in and clean for riding or the farrier etc.
Secondly I’m really not sure if I was going out to catch him in to ride everyday if I’d then really start having issue with getting hold of him ?‍
He’s also pretty revved to ride but tbh it’s the field I’m concerned/pulling my hair out about.
Any ideas?
He has the dentist, chiropractor and saddler booked soon.
He’s got ad lib hay and half a scoop of unmolassed chaff with a balancer in.

 

[Barton Bounty]

Id add some magnesium, or calming cookies

 

[Flowerofthefen]

My boy is a pain in the field and there is no way he would be happy out at night this time of year. It may be that you have to change it round and have him in at night unfortunately.

 

[SEL]

When my mare gets like that it's her gut playing up. I often get issues at this time of year and wondered if it's hormones relating to coat change. No difference in routine or feed ?

 

[poiuytrewq]

I *think his balancer contains magnesium but will check that.

? I really don’t want them in this early!

 

[poiuytrewq]

When my mare gets like that it's her gut playing up. I often get issues at this time of year and wondered if it's hormones relating to coat change. No difference in routine or feed ?

Interesting, What do you do about it?

 

[Fieldlife]

I think there are currently late autumn grass flushes causing issues. I'd consider trying a course of Equishure. Think would know if has helped within a week.

Shortage of sodium or magnesium can make hyper and both are cheap to try.

Does his balancer contain enough magnesium? Think ideally want 10gms of elemental magnesium (which is more than 10gms of magnesium oxide)

Table salt is cheap, I feed 2 x 25ml all year round.

 

[silv]

I would be inclined to think it is related to a flush of autumn grass if you have that. I would try some extra magnesium first of all. Lots of information here too
www.calmhealthyhorses.com

 

[poiuytrewq]

I did blame the grass at first, we have had nothing but scorched frazzled brown all summer and then got a sudden burst of green. I’d just hoped he may have settled down by now had that been the case but maybe not.
I will look at the balancer levels.
I do add a bit of salt but not the recommended levels as he just won’t eat it. I can get about a teaspoon in without him turning his nose up.

 

[motherof2beasts!]

How long has he been like this ?

 

[silv]

I did blame the grass at first, we have had nothing but scorched frazzled brown all summer and then got a sudden burst of green. I’d just hoped he may have settled down by now had that been the case but maybe not.
I will look at the balancer levels.
I do add a bit of salt but not the recommended levels as he just won’t eat it. I can get about a teaspoon in without him turning his nose up.

The sudden burst of green is a red flag to me, plus the very short shoots are full of sugar and are the worst culprits for nutty behaviour.
Hope you get it sorted

 

[Fieldlife]

I did blame the grass at first, we have had nothing but scorched frazzled brown all summer and then got a sudden burst of green. I’d just hoped he may have settled down by now had that been the case but maybe not.
I will look at the balancer levels.
I do add a bit of salt but not the recommended levels as he just won’t eat it. I can get about a teaspoon in without him turning his nose up.

I find beetroot powder helpful to mask taste without being high sugar.

 

[Squeak]

My horses gut is playing up this last week or two so something is definitely going on with the grass at the moment. I use Ron fields products when his gut plays up and they really help.

 

[SEL]

Interesting, What do you do about it?

Slippery elm powder for her. I've just got the Equinatural one but used thunderbrook before. She does get magnesium too. The other thing I've used is zeolite for a couple of weeks.

 

[fredflop]

When my horse was like this he hated the yard he was on. Turned into a monster

 

[poiuytrewq]

How long has he been like this ?

Not entirely sure, a month maybe.
Thanks for other suggestions. I’ve ordered some magnesium incase.
I can’t move yards, really not an option unfortunately. He’s pretty chilled in his stable during the day, other than yelling at me if I happen to show my face.

 

[Boulty]

Definitely try things to support his gut if it seems to be since the grass has flushed but if you suspect his old owner used to rug him more may be worth putting the next weight up of rug on just to see if makes a difference as would cost nothing to try & you'd probably only have to try it for a few days to see if any difference. The orange idiot used to run laps of the field away from me when he was cold (especially if the reason I was trying to catch him was to change his rug... Welsh logic at its finest there!) but would happily actively want to be out overnight year round if he was wrapped up warm. (I gave up on what I thought normal rugging for a native should be in the end & just went along with his softness)

 

[meleeka]

Definitely try things to support his gut if it seems to be since the grass has flushed but if you suspect his old owner used to rug him more may be worth putting the next weight up of rug on just to see if makes a difference as would cost nothing to try & you'd probably only have to try it for a few days to see if any difference. The orange idiot used to run laps of the field away from me when he was cold (especially if the reason I was trying to catch him was to change his rug... Welsh logic at its finest there!) but would happily actively want to be out overnight year round if he was wrapped up warm. (I gave up on what I thought normal rugging for a native should be in the end & just went along with his softness)

I wonder if it’s an orange thing as my Welsh mare is the same. She’s been a witch lately, but once her rug went on she cheered up no end. She’s retired now but was like this even when she was younger. Even if she didn’t feel cold to me (and shouldn’t have been at the temperature), she obviously likes to be warmer than most. I just go with it now and if she’s grumpy I’ll try a rug first. At least she makes her needs clear ?

 

[Hallo2012]

my youngster can get unsettled and a bit frazzled like this, started him on coligone (also thinking grass) and that seems to have helped.

 

[Melody Grey]

It’s time of year with grass flushing and high winds most likely. I have three idiots here who were doing their finest dressage in the field this morning to another gelding over the fence ?‍