ForeverBroke_
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And does that mean you hunted it twice within the first week of having it??
Horse Rearing and Dealer - Help - sorry long
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Ranyhyn
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If its a good riding horse but an unsafe hunter, why don't you just sell it on as a riding horse?
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Now this had nedver occurred to me - clever flame!
If its a good riding horse but an unsafe hunter, why don't you just sell it on as a riding horse?
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Now this had nedver occurred to me - clever flame!
ever_hopeful
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Was it your vet that did the vetting? Or one from the dealer's area? Hopefully the vet took bloods during the vetting, but they don't always.
It's hard to believe he'd risk it with a vet coming out to do a vetting, but if the dealer was happy to suggest you try doping the horse to calm it down - sounds as if he wouldn't be disinclined to try that himself.
Have you got paperwork from the dealer? A recipt?
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And does that mean you hunted it twice within the first week of having it??
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I must admit, that does seem a lot to be doing with a newly purchased horse that's just come from a dealer's yard. Maybe he needed a bit of settling in time, and time to bond and familiarise himself with you and your daughter before he went hunting. He's still young.
It's hard to believe he'd risk it with a vet coming out to do a vetting, but if the dealer was happy to suggest you try doping the horse to calm it down - sounds as if he wouldn't be disinclined to try that himself.
Have you got paperwork from the dealer? A recipt?
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And does that mean you hunted it twice within the first week of having it??
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I must admit, that does seem a lot to be doing with a newly purchased horse that's just come from a dealer's yard. Maybe he needed a bit of settling in time, and time to bond and familiarise himself with you and your daughter before he went hunting. He's still young.
LadyRascasse
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first choice by any chance pm me if you prefer
Clodagh
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Surely though you don't need to dope a horse to calm it down, plenty of exercise beforehand, keep it thirsty and so on, lots of tried and tested (untraceable) methods of making a horse appear quieter.
It still isn't doing what its supposed to be doing, so isn't fit for purpose, surely?
It still isn't doing what its supposed to be doing, so isn't fit for purpose, surely?
freddiesmum
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You're right - prob too much to do straight away with it - maybe it just needs more time. My old vet vetted it and will get bloods tested but I can't believe it was doped at yard although of course maybe it was. Also maybe it is one of those that can't take hunting but that's not what I want - aargh. Don't want to have hassle of selling it if possible.
pookie
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It's fine travelling and has only acted up out hunting. I've only had it for 3 weeks now but said I wanted to return it 2 weeks ago.
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Ahhh ok, sorry my mistake
I thought when you said electric from the moment it was unboxed you meant it was a nutter as soon as you got it.
I guess ultimately it depends how much you want to try with this particular horse. As someone's suggested, you could phone some of the hunts it's supposed to have been on and see how it did.
As it's so young you might be able to school it to hunt safely - being a youngster it may well have just been completely overwhelmed by the day out and the fact it's got new owners, a new yard etc etc. I'd be inclined to give it time, work on it settling in with your family and getting to know what's going on and what's expected. But if you don't have the time or you want a horse you can just get on and ride then selling or claiming money back is probably the best idea.
It's fine travelling and has only acted up out hunting. I've only had it for 3 weeks now but said I wanted to return it 2 weeks ago.
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Ahhh ok, sorry my mistake
I guess ultimately it depends how much you want to try with this particular horse. As someone's suggested, you could phone some of the hunts it's supposed to have been on and see how it did.
As it's so young you might be able to school it to hunt safely - being a youngster it may well have just been completely overwhelmed by the day out and the fact it's got new owners, a new yard etc etc. I'd be inclined to give it time, work on it settling in with your family and getting to know what's going on and what's expected. But if you don't have the time or you want a horse you can just get on and ride then selling or claiming money back is probably the best idea.
ForeverBroke_
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What Pookie said x
freddiesmum
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Thank you everyone for your replies and help. Need to give it some serious thought. Like the look of the grey advertised though, thanks.
Lanky Loll
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Sorry you're in this situation but just to point out - a horse can react very differently in new situations and with new owners. What can be perfect with one jockey can be a total loon with another.
I know you tried the horse out but in a new home I'd want to give it at least 6 weeks to settle in and relax, and personally wouldn't hunt anything within a week of owning it, I wouldn't feel that I knew it well enough.
I know you tried the horse out but in a new home I'd want to give it at least 6 weeks to settle in and relax, and personally wouldn't hunt anything within a week of owning it, I wouldn't feel that I knew it well enough.
littleme
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Who was the dealer (feel free to pm)?
Unfortunatly, cant say for definate without knowing who but its unlikely you'll get your money back, probably best to 'swap' it or sell it on.
ALso, its a well known fact the irish hunt hard, and can seriously ride - so it may well have been a saint previously? Horses being horses do change in different enviroments and with different riders, the dealer may have been aware the horse did this but in all honesty probably didn't
Unfortunatly, cant say for definate without knowing who but its unlikely you'll get your money back, probably best to 'swap' it or sell it on.
ALso, its a well known fact the irish hunt hard, and can seriously ride - so it may well have been a saint previously? Horses being horses do change in different enviroments and with different riders, the dealer may have been aware the horse did this but in all honesty probably didn't
cluedo
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Please PM the name of the dealer... I think it may be the one we are suing at the moment. Sounds familar.
ladyt25
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I'm sorry maybe there's more to this than I think or maybe I'm just a total idiot?! You bought a horse less than a month ago so horse in new environment and then you took it hunting?! How long after you got it did you take it hunting?
What's it been like when it's not hunting - ie general hacking etc?
To be honest in my mind you're expecting a lot from a 6 yo horse in an exciting environment and within such a short space pf time - OR maybe that's just me!!!
If you wanted a reliable, seasoned hunter for your daughter than I beg the question - why not buy something older with a good track record of hunting???
I don't feel you've given the horse a chance for a start, after all, as we all know, they are not machines and react differently to different people and different situations.
What's it been like when it's not hunting - ie general hacking etc?
To be honest in my mind you're expecting a lot from a 6 yo horse in an exciting environment and within such a short space pf time - OR maybe that's just me!!!
If you wanted a reliable, seasoned hunter for your daughter than I beg the question - why not buy something older with a good track record of hunting???
I don't feel you've given the horse a chance for a start, after all, as we all know, they are not machines and react differently to different people and different situations.
pookie
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LadyT, from what I can gather the OP hunted the horse within a week of ownership - she says she has had the horse for 3 weeks and wanted to return it 2 weeks ago after the first hunting try out (before the doping).
MagicMelon
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It depends. You said the dealer had said the horse had hunted. Did he actually say it was GOOD and calm to hunt? You have to be very careful so as to ask exactly the right questions!
LindaW
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Don't take this the wrong way, but when at the hunt, what was your contact like? You say he has a light mouth. If there is any chance at all you were 'in his face' trying to hold him, you may have your answer there.
When I first took my lad a few years ago if I'd hung on at all he'd have been upright in no time, but I knew him well and kept quiet and confident. He came of the box looking wired for the first 2 seasons, but by the 3rd or 4th ride out with me condfident on him he was a super hunter - a different rider who was worried 'could' have got a different response.
Is this possible? Could he have been hunted happily by someone quite confident, and now he's insecure at another new home, with people who don't know him and who have possibly tensed up because he's starting to escalte behaviour?
Don't take this the wrong way, but when at the hunt, what was your contact like? You say he has a light mouth. If there is any chance at all you were 'in his face' trying to hold him, you may have your answer there.
When I first took my lad a few years ago if I'd hung on at all he'd have been upright in no time, but I knew him well and kept quiet and confident. He came of the box looking wired for the first 2 seasons, but by the 3rd or 4th ride out with me condfident on him he was a super hunter - a different rider who was worried 'could' have got a different response.
Is this possible? Could he have been hunted happily by someone quite confident, and now he's insecure at another new home, with people who don't know him and who have possibly tensed up because he's starting to escalte behaviour?
natalia
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Hmmm, tricky one. I tend to sell mine as hunters with the stipulation if the purchaser wants to take them before buying they can (we have hirelings though so its no trouble and everything here is well hunted) I don't think that by taking them straight out your asking too much, but only if your a very confident rider. I would also second what LindaW has said in regards to the pony having alight mouth, as if you did pull a little to hard it may have caused it to rear without your even knowing. Is there no one you could pay to hunt it once who is very experienced, just to see if this is the problem? As you have said your daughters a bit windy which prob isn't helping the ponies nerves.