Horse running off whilst leading...

Thank you for all your headcollar ideas these are fab!

I'm very particular about the horses. I like them to be as perfect as possible which I know you can only get so far with. If I can't find an answer I ask someone else or ask for help. If a horse shows behaviours I try and work out why. I'm lucky to rent my own fields. Whenever he runs off, which is rarely, he runs into the field and that's it. Eats grass which is cheekily, al he's recently wanted. We never lead him out of the field he is always ridden and as I mention is fab ridden out. When there is a situation that anyone leads him from field to stable they know what he is like. And 99.9% of the time he is fab! I know he needs some kind of device to stop him when required hence this thread. I've already had numberous natural horsemanship people out with long lines, rope halters, done ground work I've practiced and practiced. It comes to a point when you realise your horse has learnt this behaviour - stuff has happened to him before I have got him that unfortuately I can only change so much. I have spent hours, blood sweat and tears over him but he has got better and better. I'm not afraid of spending money or time on him to get him sorted I've already done that. It just comes to a point when you realise, this horse is good most of the time. But what equipment can I use to make him that 100% safe hence my thread and appreciate your answers. Def given me some fab ideas! Thank you
 
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the problem with rope halters and dually's is that if you don't teach your horse to understand pressure and release, they will be totally useless.

I have a dually, rarely use it these days but I also had some training with a Kelly marks trained person and my horse learnt how to response when the pressure was applied!
 
We use a chain on our bargy pony. He came to us with no manners aged 10. We use a chain across the nose. It works really well for us. He leads perfectly with it, but knows the difference if you use a normal head collar and reverts to his previous behaviour. We just lead him in the chain to keep consistency, and because I don't want my children hurt when they lead him.
 
My big mare can get stroppy and bargy now and again, I use a chain, only for a day or two, then I thread it through the side ring on the nose band, then though the side ring higher up and then clip it to itself, so when I add pressure it tightens the side, (not on the horses face) and I find that, and the noise of the chain enough, and should she get stroppy I can just unclip and put it under or over the nose...
 
Dually for my small thuggy cob. Bridles, halters, chains, even the rope through his mouth (which wasnt me and I wasnt happy) didnt even register. A bit of work with the Dually and he just got it. He only wears it if I think the situation calls for it, which isnt very often nowadays :)
 
We use a chiffney with my friends lightweight cob. He is great under saddle but has run off with all of us at some point or other. Be nice head collar didn't work. It's not a training exercise, this is a horse completely dictated by his stomach. He looks at you, eyes up the options and just keeps on walking...
 
I'll try and be be Brief! Had said horse for 6 years. When he first arrived he had unfortunately already learnt he was stronger than a person on the floor and use to just put his head down and run off as and when he felt like it, literally every two steps. Fast forward to now, he's ace riding but on the floor, it's more cheekiness now. If he decides to run as there is some nice grass for example, he will.

What head collar, devices or possible bit do you recommend for leading a horse who becomes so strong when they want to run off they do?

Have tried him in rope halter. Have had numerous people out to see him over the years but just looking for something for that odd time he decides he's going!

Thank you

We have one here that does that and puts her shoulder into you so you either run or let go. Owner now turns her out in a bridle and keeps her attention with a few treats in her pocket to give her when she is safely where she is suppose to be,
 
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