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I had a horse that was prone to lymphangitis you really need to get on top of the infection quickly if current antibiotics aren’t doing that the vet should change them. Has the vet been out to check for signs of infection still being present.
It also needs as much movement as possible morning noon and night and between if possible or out as much as possible, if the fields are dry enough then she needs out everyday.
I could be found out walking mine at 2am and again at 6am when she was bad.
Feeding cleavers and marigold has also really helped mine.
If she’s fed up with in hand walking could you do some lunging as well.
 
I really hope you can get to the bottom of things for your horse. 🙏

I have found a really good system for the mud with my mare, it’s time consuming & goes against advice about washing legs but honestly before this I had tried everything. A friend recommended these products and we literally haven’t looked back.

Before turnout, I liberally dust all her legs with this:

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Lincoln Muddy Buddy Powder

A powerful antibacterial water repellent powder for application to the lower legs of horses in wet and muddy conditions. Beneficial to horses prone to irritation from a wet and muddy environment. Effectively protects the area and offers a powerful water repellent barrier to keep the area...
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Then when she comes in, I wash off her legs in warm water and apply this as per directions leaving on for 5-10 mins and then rinse off with warm water after which I throughly dry her legs:

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Lincoln Muddy Buddy Scrub

A powerful antibacterial leg wash for easy removal of mud and dirt from the legs of horses. Contains a powerful broad spectrum antibacterial agent to help overcome and combat harmful bacteria present in wet, muddy and dirty environments. Will effectively cleanse, helping to maintain hygienically...
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Once dry, I then slather her legs in this:

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Lincoln Muddy Buddy Ointment

A powerful, soothing and protecting antibacterial waterproof barrier for horses. For application to the heels and lower legs in wet and muddy conditions. Will soothe the affected area and offer an effective, protective waterproof barrier.
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If she does get any scabs overnight, then she stays in that day & I use this on the scabby area and wrap her leg in cling film:

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Lincoln Muddy Buddy Magic Mud Kure Cream

Fast, effective therapy for mud fever. Scientifically proven. Use in conjunction with the Lincoln Muddy Buddy Magic Mud Kure Powder.
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Definitely worth a try 🤞
 
unfortunately i can't lunge her due to a pre-existing issue on a different leg, just trying to be conscious of not making anything worse :,) - who knows though. she has been having walks 3x a day plus cold hosing, she went in the field saturday and is going back out today hopefully, the field is awful but she seemed more inclined to be out as its slowly drying up.

mahogany- thanks for those recommendations, i actually have a couple of those on my shelf so thankyou!! :)

blitz/wuz - she did have a temperature last week, its gone down. shes rugged up correctly and has a HUGE straw bed and i mean huge :D thick and deep etc to keep her comfy.

i don't think this leg is covered by insurance anymore :S dumb question- are you allowed to ask if that leg is covered due to whats happening, to your insurance company, ahead of starting a claim?
 
I don’t see an issue with asking if the leg is covered by insurance.
If the answer is no, then you have no claim.
If the answer is yes then say you’d like to start a claim please.
Your renewal documents should list any exclusions.
 
apparently she would be covered as its a skin complaint rather than linked to pre existing issues, so thats something, now to decide whether or not to start the claim :S
 
TBH you might as well start a claim as this is now noted on the horses vet history and whether you make a claim or not now say in 2 years time if you did you want to make a claim the insurance would deem it potentially re existing. It really doesn’t matter if you claim now or not in that regard.
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apparently she would be covered as its a skin complaint rather than linked to pre existing issues, so thats something, now to decide whether or not to start the claim :S
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i've no idea sorry, it wasn't listed on my invoice (test was free through careforcushings) and when the vet rang she just said the above and nothing else. i'll find out tho
 
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i've no idea sorry, it wasn't listed on my invoice (test was free through careforcushings) and when the vet rang she just said the above and nothing else. i'll find out tho
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Then it was the ACTH test, they are notoriously unreliable. I would ask the vet for a Prascend trial, or the TRH -stim test but theyvwere in short supply recently.
 
why are cushing tests offered if they're unreliable, and how is anyone meant to know they're unreliable??

appreciate you're helping btw. but it just feels like even though i'm doing the right thing by my mare, its still not enough, because i'm having to look for clarification elsewhere. why don't vets share this information readily?

few questions
what is a prascend trial? i thought once they're on that medicine, they can't come off it?
why are TRH -stim tests in short supply?
is there any other different way to test for cushings?
 
You can Google Equine Cushings result data and see what comes up. The Prascend test is to start the horse on a low dose of Prascend to see if it makes any difference. It is usually done when the results don't match up with what you are seeing, or in the case of obvious clinical signs, and no testing carried out. Might be worth asking your vet if Agnus Castus would be worth trying - this is a herbal type supplement that mimics Prascend in borderline cases. Some get good results with it, some don't.
ACTH is usually good at confirming most of the developed cases. It's the borderlines, and cases not showing many or any symptoms that are often diagnosed through the more sensitive stim test. Hope this helps.
 
You could also take a look at mucuna, which is a dopamine agonist used in the Indian subcontinent to treat Parkinsons. Pergolide is effective in the same way, but banned for use in humans because over the long term it affects heart valves. In a horse that effect isn't worried about. There has been some research for use for Cushings in horses, in Norway if I remember rightly. Sold on ebay.
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why are cushing tests offered if they're unreliable, and how is anyone meant to know they're unreliable??

appreciate you're helping btw. but it just feels like even though i'm doing the right thing by my mare, its still not enough, because i'm having to look for clarification elsewhere. why don't vets share this information readily?

few questions
what is a prascend trial? i thought once they're on that medicine, they can't come off it?
why are TRH -stim tests in short supply?
is there any other different way to test for cushings?
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No need to shoot the messenger!

We had our Appy mare tested. ACTH kept coming back 'within normal range', although rising each time, but we were still suspicious, so had the TRH-Stim test which came back *8x* the normal limit. Vet asked if I was sitting down when she rang with the results!

I have no idea why your vet hasn't shared this info, you will have to ask them.
A Prascend trial is exactly what it says, if there is no change, you stop giving it to the horse. People often choose to take their horse off Prascend if they feel that the side-effects are too much.
There are already two tests and the possibility of a Prascend trial, how many more ways do you want to diagnose Cushings?
I assume that test shortage is similar to all the other drug shortages and likely Brexit- related
 
Ref: steroids. My EMS mare recently completed a course of steroids, the vet prescribed “Invokana” which is essentially a diabetes drug. It’s not a long term solution but it got us safely through a course of steroids.
 
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