Horse shopping help??

lucky7

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Hi
Can Can you point me in the direction of a stud or does anyone know of anything that matches what I am after? I am based in shropshire/Worcestershire border so looking for something in the area - so West midlands or North west England.
After a yearling or a nice 2 yr old to make at least 16hh, a nice alrounder but aiming for dressage ,with a good temprement . Something like a wb/wb x or a tb x. Don't have a massive budget, 2k at absolute tops.
I have a cob and a Welsh D and had these both since yearlings and backed them myself so have experience with young horses, planning on selling the D in the spring as after something bigger and more suited to what I want to do. I used to have a tb and quite miss the extra gear and energy she always had! 😀😊
 

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You could try VNM Sport Horses just outside Shrewsbury - they have some lovely untouched youngsters, with some great WB bloodlines. I can give you a phone number for them.

Friend of mine has a lovely well bred homebred youngster for sale - shame you don't want a 3 yr old!!
 

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I am confused why does she need to read that? She isn't breeding a horse but buying one.


Just because it is CRAZY to expect to buy a horse for a fraction of the cost of producing it!! The costs quoted by H&H are a little higher than mine - I have most of my brood mares and youngsters at home and access to big fields 3 miles down the road for youngsters at reasonable cost. And I use my own stallion for some mares and a very good stallion whose owner gives me a good deal for semen. But the actual cost of putting a foal on the ground is still at LEAST £1,800! (And of course that's assuming all mares have foals who survive.)

It costs me at LEAST another £2,000 to rear these foals to 2 years old - grazing, supplementary feed in winter, foot trimming, worming, vaccinations, registration/passport costs.

Just one filly added £800 to those costs - failed her grading for alleged cataracts. Went to a specialist to have THAT despatched. Got a kick the day before which had vet treatment - but then developed a persistent infection in the leg - needed antibiotics, poulticing, stabling etc. etc. etc. She's fine now - but still has to go back to grading next year!

And we won't mention the gorgeous 5 year old - who was going brilliantly and ready to sell. I was asking a HUGE £5,500 for him.
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He got colic (while I was in hospital) and was operated on to correct a twist in the small colon (unusual.) He then got small colon dystrophy (VERY rare) and died 2 weeks later. Total vet costs were around £7,000 - and enormous amount of time from staff and me. Broke our hearts when we failed - he was a lovely boy - hang the huge cost!

But WHY should breeders be a charity for horse buyers - we should be able to cover direct costs, at least!

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These were 3 year olds - some have been sold - to good homes who appreciate them. A couple are STILL here - at 5. If they're still here after Christmas they will have LOST me about £5,000 each.

A lot of breeders have given up - a lot more are likely to (including me!) Bankruptcy is a big price to pay for the pleasure of breeding horses.
 

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I completely get the breeders arguments and whilst I don't disagree at all buying any horse is about supply and demand. At the end of the day the market will dictate what the OP is able to buy.

OP you will find a sports type for 2k. But expect it to be lower end of quality.
 

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Have a look at Longacres stud, in the north west. Their young stallion Samara Fly is beautiful and doing very well at dressage. Their babies are lovely. I think they have a fb page too x
 

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OP I know of a very nice weanling gelding for sale (well he's 8 months). He'll make in region of 16h (based on 2 full brothers). He's by Strinesdale Mastermind and has been bred at the Strinesdale Stud. One full brother is competing county level show hunter and doing well at dressage and the other full brother (rising 4) has just been sold - he was standing at 15.2 as a 3yo.

He's in the North West. I've got some pics of him and videos of him moving but not on this computer so please PM me if you want to see them. He isn't advertised as yet.

He isn't a huge price and is a really nice chap.
 

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Just because it is CRAZY to expect to buy a horse for a fraction of the cost of producing it!! The costs quoted by H&H are a little higher than mine - I have most of my brood mares and youngsters at home and access to big fields 3 miles down the road for youngsters at reasonable cost. And I use my own stallion for some mares and a very good stallion whose owner gives me a good deal for semen. But the actual cost of putting a foal on the ground is still at LEAST £1,800! (And of course that's assuming all mares have foals who survive.)

It costs me at LEAST another £2,000 to rear these foals to 2 years old - grazing, supplementary feed in winter, foot trimming, worming, vaccinations, registration/passport costs.

Just one filly added £800 to those costs - failed her grading for alleged cataracts. Went to a specialist to have THAT despatched. Got a kick the day before which had vet treatment - but then developed a persistent infection in the leg - needed antibiotics, poulticing, stabling etc. etc. etc. She's fine now - but still has to go back to grading next year!

And we won't mention the gorgeous 5 year old - who was going brilliantly and ready to sell. I was asking a HUGE £5,500 for him.
AlvinandGrace-2.jpg


He got colic (while I was in hospital) and was operated on to correct a twist in the small colon (unusual.) He then got small colon dystrophy (VERY rare) and died 2 weeks later. Total vet costs were around £7,000 - and enormous amount of time from staff and me. Broke our hearts when we failed - he was a lovely boy - hang the huge cost!

But WHY should breeders be a charity for horse buyers - we should be able to cover direct costs, at least!

3%20yos-1.jpg



These were 3 year olds - some have been sold - to good homes who appreciate them. A couple are STILL here - at 5. If they're still here after Christmas they will have LOST me about £5,000 each.

A lot of breeders have given up - a lot more are likely to (including me!) Bankruptcy is a big price to pay for the pleasure of breeding horses.

Guess so but 8 grand for a youngster, seriously? It's kind of no wonder to me that people go bankrupt that's a lot of money to spend on a gamble. I wouldn't pay 8 grand on a youngster.

I bought my horse from his breeder when he was 6. She paid for livery for a year and two lots of breaking in as she ignored him for months and he needed retrained as he had forgotten everything. I have put the most training into him since I bought him and got him for £3000. No way would I have paid 8 grand for him although his breeder has clearly spent a lot more. Her loss though she sold a brilliant horse.

I just can't wrap my head around paying that much for an average horse you know as there will be breeders who don't breed the next Grand prix horse. Think only people who do want a grand prix horse would pay that much for a youngster. I mean it doesn't sound like OP wants the next valegro and even he was sold for £4000 as a youngster at one point. I get that you want to make a profit or at least break even but I can see also why people won't pay that much. Guess to make money from breeding you need to be doing a lot more than just breeding horses.
 
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