Horse taken for livery debt Whilst on loan x

[Mossi]

Surely it is illegal to take your property (horse) without a court order. In other circumstances when debts are owed, the seizure of property has to be granted by the court and a bailiff appointed. You hear of this so often on livery yards, YOs taking horses or tack etc, when they probably have no legal right to do so, not to mention a horse is not just property, but usually a much loved member of the family. It is unfortunate that some horse owners, for whatever reason, do not pay their livery fees, but if the YOs need to take measures to get the money they are owed then surely they should do it through the proper channels. It must be heartbreaking to have your horse taken.

 

[Mossi]

Also bearing in mind that livery yards are a business, they are also able to charge what they like, some dictate what you feed you horse, how you keep it, when you see it and when you can't etc etc, they are unregulated businesses leaving horseowners at the mercy of the many unscrupulous YOs that exist (not all of course, some are great), and then they decide that they are above the law and take your horse - no other business would get away with what some livery YOs do. Personally I have always paid my way, but I understand that some people (annoyingly) don't, but nevertheless confiscating an animal seems rather draconian.

 

[clydesdale]

any updates?

 

[Beckie65]

Update? x

 

[pixie]

Also bearing in mind that livery yards are a business, they are also able to charge what they like, some dictate what you feed you horse, how you keep it, when you see it and when you can't etc etc, they are unregulated businesses leaving horseowners at the mercy of the many unscrupulous YOs that exist (not all of course, some are great), and then they decide that they are above the law and take your horse - no other business would get away with what some livery YOs do. Personally I have always paid my way, but I understand that some people (annoyingly) don't, but nevertheless confiscating an animal seems rather draconian.

Er, if liveries are not happy with the service, then they must leave. They are only "at the mercy of YO" if they continue to stay

 

[Dry Rot]

Haven't read the whole thread but isn't there an action called "detinue"? Basically an action (presumably available through Small Claims) to recover property that is yours but held illegally by another? The claimant would have to produce evidence of ownership, e.g a receipt, witnesses, loan agreement, vet bills, etc.

The police will attend if you can convince them there may be a breach of the police. Any mention of a shotgun would probably mean they'd come armed!

 

[LANCIA]

hhhhmmmmm...
I had a horse taken whilst on lone, and as I had ALL the proof the horse was mine, I got him back!! Seems very strange that you can't and your story seems not to add up and things change!
I personally contacted Northants Horse Watch and they were absolutely fantastic, they liased with the police as I gave them a crime reference number and the police were able to verify that my case was a genuine one. Horse watch and the police were with me when I went to retrive my horse.... seems to me there is more to this than meets the eye! I got my boy back.....

 

[justmemydear]

We got OUR horse back nothing funny was going on thank you very much for that comment! I tried to do it the nice way but we found him from a tip off from someone on the farmers own livery yard and as per our solicitors advise took him. He had a few things that needed addressing and from now on if we loan a horse out the contract will be water tight so this can't happen again x