Fiona_C
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horse that just glanced off the vicarage vee....
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CastleMouse
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Poor poor lad
RIP x
moon_drop
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thats very sad as you say they where both doing what the loved
RIP
not a great few weeks for eventing!!!
RIP
not a great few weeks for eventing!!!
StrawberryFish
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Have you read this post?
If true - I am a little disappointed at the people who decided to run Skwal.
If true - I am a little disappointed at the people who decided to run Skwal.
Hannahbone
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ive just finished watching it and am very upset to hear about both horses but like perviously said they went doing something they love
Fiona
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Why???
The horse jumped round OK, seemed to be confident at 4* level, and even though they don't use a noseband on him (due to an old injury I believe) he was very straight through skinnies and combinations.
Why should the owners not have run him?
I have more of a problem with the Badminton organisers using wooden flags!!
Even here in old fashioned Ireland, we have bendy plastic flags (attached with velcro for skinnies/corner etc) which have far less potential for injury.
Fiona
The horse jumped round OK, seemed to be confident at 4* level, and even though they don't use a noseband on him (due to an old injury I believe) he was very straight through skinnies and combinations.
Why should the owners not have run him?
I have more of a problem with the Badminton organisers using wooden flags!!
Even here in old fashioned Ireland, we have bendy plastic flags (attached with velcro for skinnies/corner etc) which have far less potential for injury.
Fiona
StrawberryFish
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Why???
The horse jumped round OK, seemed to be confident at 4* level, and even though they don't use a noseband on him (due to an old injury I believe) he was very straight through skinnies and combinations.
Why should the owners not have run him?
I have more of a problem with the Badminton organisers using wooden flags!!
Even here in old fashioned Ireland, we have bendy plastic flags (attached with velcro for skinnies/corner etc) which have far less potential for injury.
Fiona
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I posted a link - I said IF true, then they probably shouldn't have run him.
Apparently he was sold as a hack / to have an easier life, not to compete at the highest level.
Why???
The horse jumped round OK, seemed to be confident at 4* level, and even though they don't use a noseband on him (due to an old injury I believe) he was very straight through skinnies and combinations.
Why should the owners not have run him?
I have more of a problem with the Badminton organisers using wooden flags!!
Even here in old fashioned Ireland, we have bendy plastic flags (attached with velcro for skinnies/corner etc) which have far less potential for injury.
Fiona
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I posted a link - I said IF true, then they probably shouldn't have run him.
Apparently he was sold as a hack / to have an easier life, not to compete at the highest level.
StrawberryFish
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http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/2004050/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD
link didn't show up on my original post - sorry, just realised
link didn't show up on my original post - sorry, just realised
Fiona
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Tried to edit but time expired...
Just remembered that he ran out at vicarage vee, but the angle of the camera showed that the rider wasn't straight into it.
Fiona
Just remembered that he ran out at vicarage vee, but the angle of the camera showed that the rider wasn't straight into it.
Fiona
pixie
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I believe Clair Balding went up to one of the jumps and demonstrated that the flags were only attached by velcro, so should fall away quite easily when hit. I think it was just the fact that the horse hit it at a funny angle that caused it to snap instead of just fall off to the site. Just an unfortunate accident.
teapot
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Some of the flags are velcro like the corner in huntsmans close, others are tied on with those plastic ties
Even a plastic flag, if broken in two could still be quite sharp
Even a plastic flag, if broken in two could still be quite sharp
Eccles
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Hmmm, depends really. Horse looked fine, admittedly bit weird not being ridden in a noseband, but there was a damn good reason for it and it was full of running. With respect, horse and rider got to badders through a whole world of work a slightly off/"hack only" horse would never have made it. We don't know the full story and people expect/do different things with horses. What I am trying to say is we know less about the old owner than that horse's rider, who worked and worked and had to know his horse inside out to get there.
TarrSteps
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He's been PTS.
I'm sure the context of the injury made it much more serious than the same thing happening when the horse was quiet. His heart would have been pumping hard and he did continue galloping for a few strides after the injury, even with quick action on the rider's part, which would have pushed an incredible amount of blood through his quarters. I suspect there was very little chance.
Very, very sad.
I'm sure the context of the injury made it much more serious than the same thing happening when the horse was quiet. His heart would have been pumping hard and he did continue galloping for a few strides after the injury, even with quick action on the rider's part, which would have pushed an incredible amount of blood through his quarters. I suspect there was very little chance.
Very, very sad.
Eccles
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I know, thought he would have no chance and surprised and relieved when bbc said he had been stabilised. Poor poor horse, feel so awful for all involved. In many ways an awful badders. OH was ill otherwise would have gone, relieved we didn't
helpplease
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I was at the fence and saw this accident, and to be honest I didn't believe a word of it when they said he'd stabilised. The amount of blood he lost was incredible, it was an arterial bleed that was pumping instantly.
Poor horse - just hope he'd gone into shock and it numbed the pain a bit.
Poor horse - just hope he'd gone into shock and it numbed the pain a bit.
teapot
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read someone online that he was sedated to help him out as they moved him or something like that anyway
sunflower
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Indeed, We were at that fence and you could clearly see the blood spurting. We were all yelling at him to pull up and he did within about 3 strides.
Eccles
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I'd walked out of room for a sec and OH shouted to me what was going on and tbh didn't believe him for a while! Am prob totally wrong but with severed artery wouldn't he have gone into shock = less pain ????
helpplease
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Indeed, We were at that fence and you could clearly see the blood spurting. We were all yelling at him to pull up and he did within about 3 strides.
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That makes at least 4 HHO'ers at that fence at that time - what are the chances!!
He did pull up v quickly, full credit to him.
Indeed, We were at that fence and you could clearly see the blood spurting. We were all yelling at him to pull up and he did within about 3 strides.
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That makes at least 4 HHO'ers at that fence at that time - what are the chances!!
He did pull up v quickly, full credit to him.
severnmiles
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What about flags on springs for all corners and skinny's - like that skinny at WEG had. It would prevent freak accidents like this happening in the future...
Must say I felt so, so sick seeing it having witnessed a similar 'freak' accident with a horse of my own. RIP ICARE D'AUZAY
Must say I felt so, so sick seeing it having witnessed a similar 'freak' accident with a horse of my own. RIP ICARE D'AUZAY
sunflower
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The horse knocked the flag and it fell straight forwards. Unfortunately as the horse landed his hoof pushed the flag end of the pole down and effectively pushed the bottom end of the pole up which is what caused the injury. As he landed he snapped the pole. Trust me, I sadly have photos of this which I am not going to post but here is one of him taking off. I hope nobody minds, it is meant as a tribute.
Skhosu
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oh my, so sad just look at those ears.
severnmiles
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Aww lovely pic, fitting tribute! Who would have ever thought the above picture would end in such tragedy?
What a sad end to a lovely horse.
What a sad end to a lovely horse.
teapot
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what a gorge photo - horse's ears say it all really
My friend's just emailing me her photos of today - first one I saw that she took was of Skwal. Despite her being there all day, she hadn't heard about either horse
My friend's just emailing me her photos of today - first one I saw that she took was of Skwal. Despite her being there all day, she hadn't heard about either horse
Eccles
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Sunflower, poor horse is jumping so well and i agree, don't post any more! Its a tribute and its nice to see him (looking ok), poor pony did nothing wrong xx
weevil
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We heard at the time that there was a problem with skwal, but didn't know any more till I logged on to HHO
H-J
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I was at that fence too. Was AWFUL I saw the blood spurting out and turned away it was horrid I was so tearful as was everyone around me.
I so hoped it would be ok and felt physically sick all day.
RIP xxxxxxxxxxx
I so hoped it would be ok and felt physically sick all day.
RIP xxxxxxxxxxx
Eccles
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I know, its strange, but I knew more from today from HHO (why didn't I find your forum before??) than when when I've been there!
helpplease
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I just can't believe that many HHO-ers were at the same fence at the same time!! We must all be psychic
teapot
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was bad enough seeing it on tv, so god knows what it was like for you lot who were there at the time