Horse that's forgot he's gelded!!

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tryingnotogiveup

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I have a 5 year old gelding. He was cut EARLY by the breeder due to the chaos he was causing. He is quite flighty most of the time but quite often I'll take him out and hel go mad showing off to mares in the field. Which fair enough a lot of geldings do... But he also goes to eat the muck of mares in the Arena. Can't keep a balanced relationship in the field with the old gelding he's with. Is particularly aggressive to the big gelding on the yard when he passes his stable. The other day I took him out his stable and he was so boisterous throwing me around when leading him barging past me going through the yard (he normally has very good manners) then proceeded to try fight a horse over the fence by the time if finished with him I did actually have to look to remind myself he was infact a gelding my yard owner said it all does seem hormonal I was just wondering if anyone's had the same problem or can recommend a supplement ?!
 
You can have a blood test done to ensure he is a gelding.
A horse like this can be an asset as long as you can steer his energy into work. If he is too much for you, or you can t give him enough to do, he may need a new home. Not that this would be a reflection on your ability, just that he may need a different place.
 
I haven't had him tested, untill the other day it's always been something I've quite easily got under control and I've not thought much about it but the other day he really was a pain in the arse ! And made me add it all up I would never describe him as dangerous. I always refer to him as my hormonal teenager he's just frustrating sometimes I didn't know if there was something I could give him like moody mare but for geldings or something. I feel like it wouldn't be a problem if he was working properly but because I've had to rebreak him it's getting in the way of progress. Don't get me wrong I'm in it for the long haul if it takes me years I WILL get him sorted it'd just be easier if I could sort this bit out untill I've got him sorted ridden wise and can start channeling the energy better
 
Also breeder ( who I contacted after buying from someone else 200 miles from breeder) told me about the gelding and that she's definetly seen both in the bucket so didn't think about that untill just now
 
It makes no odds, if there was a problem, but sold as a gelding, breeder would not necessarily admit it , sorry............
can t you ask for castration certificate?
 
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Yes I know what you mean, I'd just trusted her as I asked no questions she offered the information, might get the vet to give him a blood test when he next has his jabs
 
At my old yard which was also a riding school, the YO got a phone call from the next door neighbour saying there was a stallion in the field, having a fine old time with the mares. She immediately went to take a look only to find the then 27 year old school cheeky chappie exercising his fifth leg. He was obviously suffering from memory loss due to his age because he had clearly forgotten he had been gelded 26 years or so before!! Personally I don't think gelding them stops the urges. I also knew a mini-donkey that went the whole hog, down to the finest detail (sorry!) and would wander off looking pleased with himself and doze under the sun for an hour after, but when I checked with his owner she said he was definitely gelded and then some.
 
I would get him tested as a precaution. In the meantime you could try giving him rig calm and see if that makes a difference
 
tryingnotogiveup said:
I have a 5 year old gelding. He was cut EARLY by the breeder due to the chaos he was causing. He is quite flighty most of the time but quite often I'll take him out and hel go mad showing off to mares in the field. Which fair enough a lot of geldings do... But he also goes to eat the muck of mares in the Arena. Can't keep a balanced relationship in the field with the old gelding he's with. Is particularly aggressive to the big gelding on the yard when he passes his stable. The other day I took him out his stable and he was so boisterous throwing me around when leading him barging past me going through the yard (he normally has very good manners) then proceeded to try fight a horse over the fence by the time if finished with him I did actually have to look to remind myself he was infact a gelding my yard owner said it all does seem hormonal I was just wondering if anyone's had the same problem or can recommend a supplement ?!
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Sounds like he is a true rig (and has retained testicular tissue) or a false rig and has been cut correctly but still retains some charachteristics of a stallion - all in his mind.
 
Even properly gelded males can show some colty behaviour in springtime - some of the reasons for this are covered here:http://horsesunderourskin.wordpress.com/2013/04/04/lets-talk-about-sex-baby/

Separately from that, a lot of time unwanted behaviour is written off as hormonal, when in fact it's just that the horse's training has a few holes. Address the behaviour by doing a bit of work on leading (rewarding the horse when he's doing what you want), stopping, standing still, backing up and moving quarters and shoulders away from leader when asked, and keep practising during the off season, and you may find he is more attentive next spring :)
 
It could just be the fact it's spring, the reason I've put it down to hormones and not training is that out of the arena his manners are impeccable ! He's the best behaved horse I've ever had, everyone comments at how good he is in the stable, coming in, turning out etc
 
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It could just be the fact it's spring, the reason I've put it down to hormones and not training is that out of the arena his manners are impeccable ! He's the best behaved horse I've ever had, everyone comments at how good he is in the stable, coming in, turning out etc
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Ive got my mare on NAF Oestress, just finsihed the loading period and now on normal levels, she is usually stressy and more spooky in season, this states you can use it on Geldings too for hormonal beaviour. Have to say it seems good so far, she is chilled out and not stressy in the least.
 
Thankyou I've been to the feed shop this afternoon she recommended Dodson and horrell placid that she uses for her gelding so hopefully this starts working in next few weeks and we can get some proper work done ! If not I shall be working my way down these suggestions ! Definetly going to get a blood test done too, if nothing else but just to know what I'm dealing with
 
My boss has just sold a very lovely gelding, who was definitely a gelding, but kept covering her mare. He wasn't sold for this reason by the way but they had to be kept seperate. He wasn't remotely interested in any of the other mares she had, just this one who used to act very strangely toward him (constant calling/nickering/squealing/'roaring') and she just used to pester him constantly until he gave up and 'agreed' to jump her!!
 
One of mine likes to have a go in the spring and my friend was at the castration and held both testicles. He was gelded late, though. It could be your boy was just well developed for his age, in which case testosterone is produced both by ectopic tissue and also the pituitary (if I remember correctly, have to look the last bit up!). Agnus castus is the active ingredient in Rigcalm, so if you want the herbal route, I'd buy that.
 
fatpiggy said:
At my old yard which was also a riding school, the YO got a phone call from the next door neighbour saying there was a stallion in the field, having a fine old time with the mares. She immediately went to take a look only to find the then 27 year old school cheeky chappie exercising his fifth leg. He was obviously suffering from memory loss due to his age because he had clearly forgotten he had been gelded 26 years or so before!! Personally I don't think gelding them stops the urges. I also knew a mini-donkey that went the whole hog, down to the finest detail (sorry!) and would wander off looking pleased with himself and doze under the sun for an hour after, but when I checked with his owner she said he was definitely gelded and then some.
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I have a similar 22 year old gelding that loves mounting my mare when she is in season. He also went through a phase of trying to block other horses from going near her when we were out hacking which drove me mad. I wouldn't worry too much, have the test to check if you need peace of mind, but I've seen a lot of posts on here recently of horses acting out of character. Think its the warmer weather and spring air!
 
My gelding used to regularly mount my mares ( not so much anymore). He was gelded at a year old. He shows no other riggy behaviour though and I would definitely get your checked out if he were mine OP.
 
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