merrymeasure
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Personally I'm glad that the fashion for ripping hair out of horses manes and tails is dying off. Many of them find it very painful and are forced to ensure it for no more reason than Kate Moss wears sunglasses indoors.
What's wrong with a mane and tail as nature intended if it doesn't interfere with what the horse is being asked to do?
I loved every single minute of the Freestyle dressage to music and watching Charlotte break the world record but all I could think was, at least her groom pulls the horse's tail!
Good Grief - I wanted to cut at least 6 inches off all those horse's tails and why doesn't anyone plait tails anymore? If you can't be bothered to plait at least pull the tail! Elberg's horses tail was plaited but what a mess!
Personally I'm glad that the fashion for ripping hair out of horses manes and tails is dying off. Many of them find it very painful and are forced to ensure it for no more reason than Kate Moss wears sunglasses indoors.
What's wrong with a mane and tail as nature intended if it doesn't interfere with what the horse is being asked to do?
Personally I'm glad that the fashion for ripping hair out of horses manes and tails is dying off. Many of them find it very painful and are forced to ensure it for no more reason than Kate Moss wears sunglasses indoors.
What's wrong with a mane and tail as nature intended if it doesn't interfere with what the horse is being asked to do?
Pulling tails is a question of taste, not a question of laziness.
Long tails on dressage horses has been the fashion for as long as I can remember: bang tails are for hunters slopping through mud.
That's nothing to do with standards for dressage it's perfectly usual for dressage horses to be presented with natural tails.
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This ^^^ totally. Fashion is just fashion and I'm sure the horses would prefer to be left in as natural a state as possible. Long tails on dressage horses has been the fashion for as long as I can remember: bang tails are for hunters slopping through mud.
I have to say, absolutely non of the horses i have seen on the TV coverage looked 'badly' turned out, and i just enjoy the action.
Personally I'm glad that the fashion for ripping hair out of horses manes and tails is dying off. Many of them find it very painful and are forced to ensure it for no more reason than Kate Moss wears sunglasses indoors.
What's wrong with a mane and tail as nature intended if it doesn't interfere with what the horse is being asked to do?
The thing is, I was at the dressage, which is what the OP is referring too, and they WEREN'T poorly turned out?
All very neatly plaited, groomed appropriately, good skin, clean tack and the riders were neat and tidy (I'd say the standard of dress on the riders was excellent, as you'd expect at this level) - as I said above, I was in the competitors seating, down in the warm up and in the stables too, so I got pretty close although obviously didn't see everyone, but I got an overall feel and I have no idea what on earth the OP is talking about. If tails are the problem, well, I guess that's your preference but I don't think natural tail in dressage = poorly turned out (I actually think it correct turn out for dressage, and I personally love a pulled tail on a show horse).
Speaking as an ex groom, I was told how the owners wanted the horse turned out (hunters, dressage, pointers, show) and I expect show jumpers are no different. If the rider/owner wants free tails and no plaits that's what they get, it's not up to the grooms. I have worked for both types, there was no choice, except a walk down the road!
How rude to blame the employee.
Personally I'm glad that the fashion for ripping hair out of horses manes and tails is dying off. Many of them find it very painful and are forced to ensure it for no more reason than Kate Moss wears sunglasses indoors.
What's wrong with a mane and tail as nature intended if it doesn't interfere with what the horse is being asked to do?
By all means be an armchair critic, but its probably better to know what you are talking about...
Completely agree. I hate pulled tails in particular, and haven't pulled a mane for 15 years. The fashion in dressage now is for un pulled tails that are left really long and huge fat plaits (around 7 of them). Manes are left long so that the plaits can be fat!
also the unplaited blocked off you see in SJ is kind of 'the norm'- i think the Whitakers played quite a role in that...
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The Whittakers were merely re-inventing the wheel, they are good at that, look at their branded products !
Blocked manes have been around in North America for aeons, as have the long, long tails, banded manes and myriad plaits, very soon, if it hasn't already, the latest fad in plaited tails will be little cartwheel finishes ...
Are you joking? a privilege to 'work at such a high standard'. These grooms are payed peanuts, treated like **** and one in particular rider in the puissance, rings them in the middle of the night and expects them to clip a horse out there and then, That's no privilege. I could tell you so much more, as a close friend has just returned home from working for him.
also the unplaited blocked off you see in SJ is kind of 'the norm'- i think the Whitakers played quite a role in that...
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The Whittakers were merely re-inventing the wheel, they are good at that, look at their branded products !
Blocked manes have been around in North America for aeons, as have the long, long tails, banded manes and myriad plaits, very soon, if it hasn't already, the latest fad in plaited tails will be little cartwheel finishes ...
I guess i meant in the UK...