Horse won't/can't turn right

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One of my project ponies, a 15hh 6 year old Irish cob, has been beset with issue after issue. Trying to persevere with him but could really do with a breakthrough soon..!
When he arrived he had become unmountable, would buck as the rider sat down, had also obviously been roughly treated too. He'd hunted, XC etc but limited schooling.
With lots of patience and natural horsemanship we've conquered the mounting issue, and he's pretty much ok with it now just a little bit nervy. He's been fine in the school, popped little jumps, bit of hacking. Only thing I noticed in the school was he was bent slightly to the left and wasn't keen on right bend although I expect this with most unschooled horses.
In the last week he's had 2 massive tantrums out hacking, both quite extreme and for no apparent reason. Out with other horses, past tractors and lorries, and then randomly on a quite track his bum shoots under, scoots forward and then bucks and plunges/tries to go up. The first time was manageable and the rider carried on fine after, the second time she had to get off and lead him home. Today she rode him in the school and he was fine going round on the left rein but when she tried to turn him right he would panic and try not to do it, bum would shoot under, tail tucked and he shot forwards. He's not obviously lame at all and frolicks around the field happily.
We tried it bareback, same response, tried it without (lightweight!) rider and he was better so extra weight obviously makes it worse.
He's had teeth and back done, I'm going to leave him for a week and see how he is, in case it's just a strain from his bucking episode, if still a problem I'll get the osteopath out to look at him again.

I'm afraid he won't be getting full veterinary diagnostics or anything like that unless he actually goes lame - I'm still unsure how many of his issues are mental and how many physical. He came to us as a last chance and if he isn't rideable will have to become a companion/babysitter but I'm still holding out some hope that we can sort him out as he's such a lovely little person.

Has anyone had experience with a similar reaction to turning in one direction? In a way it looks like a trapped nerve or something, as he seems totally fine and then is like OWW! suddenly and panics, it doesn't seem to be a constant thing. And so specifically when you try to turn him to the right.
 
One of my project ponies, a 15hh 6 year old Irish cob, has been beset with issue after issue. Trying to persevere with him but could really do with a breakthrough soon..!
When he arrived he had become unmountable, would buck as the rider sat down, had also obviously been roughly treated too. He'd hunted, XC etc but limited schooling.
With lots of patience and natural horsemanship we've conquered the mounting issue, and he's pretty much ok with it now just a little bit nervy. He's been fine in the school, popped little jumps, bit of hacking. Only thing I noticed in the school was he was bent slightly to the left and wasn't keen on right bend although I expect this with most unschooled horses.
In the last week he's had 2 massive tantrums out hacking, both quite extreme and for no apparent reason. Out with other horses, past tractors and lorries, and then randomly on a quite track his bum shoots under, scoots forward and then bucks and plunges/tries to go up. The first time was manageable and the rider carried on fine after, the second time she had to get off and lead him home. Today she rode him in the school and he was fine going round on the left rein but when she tried to turn him right he would panic and try not to do it, bum would shoot under, tail tucked and he shot forwards. He's not obviously lame at all and frolicks around the field happily.
We tried it bareback, same response, tried it without (lightweight!) rider and he was better so extra weight obviously makes it worse.
He's had teeth and back done, I'm going to leave him for a week and see how he is, in case it's just a strain from his bucking episode, if still a problem I'll get the osteopath out to look at him again.

I'm afraid he won't be getting full veterinary diagnostics or anything like that unless he actually goes lame - I'm still unsure how many of his issues are mental and how many physical. He came to us as a last chance and if he isn't rideable will have to become a companion/babysitter but I'm still holding out some hope that we can sort him out as he's such a lovely little person.

Has anyone had experience with a similar reaction to turning in one direction? In a way it looks like a trapped nerve or something, as he seems totally fine and then is like OWW! suddenly and panics, it doesn't seem to be a constant thing. And so specifically when you try to turn him to the right.

I would spend the money on a vet/physio rather than an osteopath and ask for neck & poll to be investigated. It does sound like a trapped nerve type issue. We had one which acupuncture worked well for with a similar issue.
 
Refusal to turn right is sometimes a symptom of ulcers.

Improvement without a rider could be because the leg is not there by the stomach.
 
Well it does sound like a typical pain reaction and I honestly think that to be fair to him he needs a vet work up to rule anything out, especially with his history, it could end up saving money in the long run rather than waiting until he goes lame. Once you know that there aren't any pain issues you can work on the behavioural issues more confidently ime. Good luck, I hope he comes right for you.
 
His teeth and mouth are fine, the dentist only saw him a month ago. I'll probably leave him a week on field rest and see how he is, as this extreme reaction has only appeared this week. If no improvement I will get the vet out as would be good to rule out/know about pain issues but I also have to be practical about it financially given what he is. I would of course do anything to stop him from being in pain but not about to go full on with diagnostics and treatment - and at the moment he's very ha
 
*happy except when asking to turn right!
I'd also be surprised if it is his neck/poll - I've done lots of stretching with him and he seems fine with it, it's when you ask him to move his hindquarters that he reacts.
 
I agree with getting him checked out. It does seem like a fairly extreme reaction even if he was stiff which is why it sounds like there is something underlying.

Assuming all is OK then there are exercises that you can do to loosen him up as well, although I'd probably hold off on these until he's been looked at just to be on the safe side!
 
No he's not insured, was bought for pretty much meat money as I felt sorry for him - he was in a field with a slightly smarter horse I bought. Normally don't buy broken in project horses and won't be again! So I won't be spending a fortune on trying to fix him - I definitely won't let him suffer in pain but if he's unrideable without extensive treatment then he will just have to be retired as a companion or something. I've just watched him careering around the field chasing my youngsters and doing some lovely manoeuvres so finding it hard to feel sorry for him at the moment..!
 
I have seen this twice .
Once in my best ever horse who when she arrived refused to turn right and resolutely bucked me off every time I got to the top of the school.
It was a long standing soft tissue issue easily fixed .
The other was Tatts he was a near side horse in a driving team when he arrived he was completely unable to turn his neck even a cm to the right and chose to go with his neck curled round to the left.
Lots of training lots of physio imput and passive stretches carrot stretches etc etc and he's now even but it will catch up with him in the end .
Ulcers as others have said and hock issues can cause this too as can head and neck issues it really is a job for a vet .
 
I've had the opposite, left hand bend issues with my mare, very wooden in the mouth and would not work softly at all. She was very tight on the right hand side behind her saddle and over her pelvis though trotting up level and sound which was preventing her from stretching to the left. Walk work was ok but trot resulted in raised head, hollowness and rushing, and a bronc session. I checked and straightened her saddle which was sitting slightly to the right in the cantle with a different girthing pattern (front two on off side, balance and point strap on near side) and had physio work done, yesterday for the first time in weeks she was a pleasure to work with, lots more to come yet but hopefully getting there now.
 
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