dressage_diva
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What's the bare minimum payload you'd expect on a 7.5t lorry for carrying two horses (16.1hh), equipment and 2 passengers (ignore diesel/water)?
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Horsebox 7.5t Payload
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BigRed
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there is no bare minimum payload. You have to weigh the lorry on a weighbridge and deduct what it weighs, from the total 7.5 limit. I have heard of people buying 7.5 lorries that were so heavy, they could only legally carry one horse in them.
DarkHorseB
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Do you mean "expect" or do you mean need?
I know of one where the payload was only 0.5T which is certainly not what the owner was "expecting"
I know of one where the payload was only 0.5T which is certainly not what the owner was "expecting"
dressage_diva
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I mean need (or want from a lorry)
irishdraught
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Our MAN had a payload of 1880 and they have a notoriously heavy chassis. I don't think there is a weight to 'expect' and all depends on your own personal circumstances. Some have more living space than horse space including full kitchens etc. which naturally will lessen your payload.
You will have to allow for your horses to be at their heaviest weight and add them to everything else you need / want to take with you and that will give you an idea of what you need.
You will have to allow for your horses to be at their heaviest weight and add them to everything else you need / want to take with you and that will give you an idea of what you need.
dressage_diva
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I can obviously work out how much the passengers weigh and can guess roughly at the horses weight, but I have no idea how much tack, hay, general equipment costs etc.
Just wondering if you were buying a lorry what's the minimum payload you'd want/need it to have.
Just wondering if you were buying a lorry what's the minimum payload you'd want/need it to have.
irishdraught
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I would think that everyone would have different requirements and that there is not one answer to your question. The only way you will know is to weight it all 
Thistle
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I would allow approx 1t per horse, to include rider, fuel, water, tack and associated rubbish!. A bit less if a smaller lighter horse.
DarkHorseB
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Agree with Thistle. As a minimum I would want 2T
CHH
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You need to consider the weight of your horses, the weight of the passengers, all your equipment and 'stuff', plus full tank of fuel, water and gas bottle etc...
Fill the vehicle FULL of fuel, water, and put the gas bottle in - now go to the weigh bridge and get a realistic reading of it's weight.
From that you will know whether the horses, people and stuff (an approximate kg weight) will be legal from the weigh bridge information.
To be honest, if you want the best payload the best thing to do is either not have an all singing/dancing living area in a 7.5ton. This reduces weight significantly.
Most will not be more than 1500kg as an average, all depends on what is on board already. I too have heard of 500kg ones!!!
Our 6.5ton can carry 2.7ton of people, equids and junk - and I have a living area (cosy but all works) to sleep 2, fantastic wagon, even with our 'wide boy' pure ID and the amount of junk I take out, we are nowhere near our weight limit!
First thing we did was get it fully filled (fuel, water and gas bottle) and on the weigh bridge.
Fill the vehicle FULL of fuel, water, and put the gas bottle in - now go to the weigh bridge and get a realistic reading of it's weight.
From that you will know whether the horses, people and stuff (an approximate kg weight) will be legal from the weigh bridge information.
To be honest, if you want the best payload the best thing to do is either not have an all singing/dancing living area in a 7.5ton. This reduces weight significantly.
Most will not be more than 1500kg as an average, all depends on what is on board already. I too have heard of 500kg ones!!!
Our 6.5ton can carry 2.7ton of people, equids and junk - and I have a living area (cosy but all works) to sleep 2, fantastic wagon, even with our 'wide boy' pure ID and the amount of junk I take out, we are nowhere near our weight limit!
First thing we did was get it fully filled (fuel, water and gas bottle) and on the weigh bridge.
ecrozier
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My old Bedford was 5.8t with me and fuel and 'junk' on board, only be horses and tack to add. I think anything over 6t unladen would be very unwise! Unless you have ponies/only one horse. My current merc is only 5.2t and will carry 3 horses is one is my 14.2 420kg Arab!
dressage_diva
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Thanks. I don't have the lorry yet as it's being built, but just wanted to know how much payload I would need. Have done some figures and think bare minimum would be 1.7-8t.
perfect11s
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yes that would be ok however if you are having something built make sure the payload is in writeing so if they get it wrong or more likley try to cut costs by using cheap
heavy materials insead of proper vehicle parts then you have a come back
if the thing is over weight !!!!! but there is no reason a basic 7.5 ton with day living should be more than about 5000kg and full living and a luton about 5500kg (18/ 20 ft body stalled for 3)....
Toby_Zaphod
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When looking for a lorry, unless you really will be staying overnight regularly at venues then steer clear of those with toilet/shower cubicles, loads of tack lockers, generators, central heating etc because all this massively increases the weight iof your lorry & to be honest isn't really needed by the majority.
I have a 'Tristar', it has day living although it's suitable for the odd overnight stay & it weighs in at 5.4 tons so I have 2 tons of payload. This is perfectly adequate for carrying my 2 horses. I could probably carry 3 & remain in weight but it's only 130hp so I doubt if I'd have enough power to bump up a kerb let alone drive up a hill.
I have a 'Tristar', it has day living although it's suitable for the odd overnight stay & it weighs in at 5.4 tons so I have 2 tons of payload. This is perfectly adequate for carrying my 2 horses. I could probably carry 3 & remain in weight but it's only 130hp so I doubt if I'd have enough power to bump up a kerb let alone drive up a hill.
steadyeddy
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We have got a 54 reg MAN 8155 with a 17 ft body, luton and tilt cab, stalled for 3 with under floor storage with tack locker at the front, 2 skirt lockers, 8 ft head room, nice living, sleeps 4 and with a full tank of fuel and 100 l water weighs in at 5340kgs!!! blooming marvelous!!!!
xuvious
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If you google "Horsebox payload calculator" the second link is a really useful guide to find out what payload you actually need! I would post a link but i think thats frowned upon!!