Horses and carts being driven dangerously in Bradford!

effing scratters

what a shame - those horses deserve better owners - at least they look well fed

You get a lot of the chavy pikeys in braford doing stuf like this - the polcie should just take the horses off them and sell themon to good homes and use the money they make to go towards makign roads a safer place for horses x
 

That's a bit harsh browbrow & more than a little offensive - ok so they may not live tehir lives the same way as us but it does not make us 'better than them'

(and I'm not sure your plan would ever happen...
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well fed and healthy animals..

i would LOVE to own the Bay in the red buggy...

i bet it's worth a fortune..
 
Lol - not harsh at all - I come from bradford - ive sent the video footage first hand with my OWN EYES - its awful what these lads do with the horses - banging them up and down the road and causing accidents (which they do all the time)

They are scratters - they dont look after the horses at all - they might be well fed and are obviously bloody bombproof but no decent horse lover flashes their horses up and down like that - its legs will be shot

Im a pro gyppo - I have heaps off gyppo mates and love appleby fair so its not a lifestyle im knocking - its just those scratters in that video.

I live round the area and people like them give horse owners a bad name - and thats why drivers then drive past at a zillion miles and hour - just to get out of the horses way !!

and yeah the horses are worth alot of money - too good for scratty lads that trash them and put others at risk
 

I have seen worse kept horses owned by the middle classes - some of whom can be just as violent. But noone calls them 'effin scratters' or 'chavvy pikeys'

and PMSL at 'I have loads of Gyppo mates' - go and call them effing scratters to their faces then.
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WTF ?

I do have loads of gypsy friends - none of which trash their horses up and down the road like this - they look after them and look after other road users

Im not here for an aguement - I can say what I like and yeah you are right you get middle class scratters as well - and you can be a pikey chav with money

If I thought someone was a scratter - id happily say it to anyones face - but my mates arent scratters

You are an effing scratter if you ride horses up and down roads like they do - no wonder drivers hate horses on the road when they have to put up with what they do.

and - I called my best mate a pikey scratter the other day - it was quite funny actually - shes irish (like me) and was scratting money off me as she is skint - hence she is a scratter ha ha
 

Sorry, not trying to start an argument - of course you can say what you like & so can I - so I just find your use of words a little offensive.

No matter! I agree that the rough riding of horses on hard tarmac is wrong so totally see your point in that respect.
 
So what if traffic has to wait for them? Horse's have right of way.
I'm sure some trotters have crap owners but no more than any other type.
Pacers & trotters are bred to withstand hard work on roads, they have tough legs, that is why the amish (google it) use them and I would rather have a ex standardbred harness horse than a TB ex racehorse.
 
All your saying is correct about trotters but thats not what the video is about - the lads charge around the roads dangourously and cause allsorts of accidents - we know that horses have right of way!! There is a real problem in bradford at the mo with these lads being wreakless and unfortunalty innocent horses and drivers are getting hurt because they have no thought for anyone but themselves.

arwen - my language was harsh - i'll agree there and was offensive, although I do mean it with offence but I really do understand what your saying - anyone can treat a horse like crap - whoever you are.

In this topic I dont care about the horses or the owners or welfare tbh - its the poor drivers that have to swerve and break and have to put up with these to$$ers on the roads - its really bad, really really bad - they are appalling, theres nothing wrong with having a horse on the road but you have to be sensible and they just arent

just look at the article below - they are going through red lights - !!
She said: "There could have been a serious accident. The horses ran straight across the junction and one nearly went into the car in front of us. He had to brake sharply to avoid an accident and so did we. It was extremely close. The horses looked absolutely terrified. I think it was absolutely disgusting."

Jenna, of Heaton, Bradford, and her partner were on their way home from Leeds when they were confronted by the animals at 5pm.

"We had driven down Leeds Road and had stopped at the traffic lights with a car in front of us," she said. "The lights turned green and we had begun to move forward when the horses appeared from the left, went through the red lights and turned into Leeds Road.

advertisement"There must have been four horses pulling traps with young men driving them and another young man riding a horse bareback. They looked to be aged between 18 and their mid-20s.

"They went off down Leeds Road. The horses seemed to be veering to and fro. The men didn't seem to be in control."

Jenna said she drove down Leeds Road to a garage and as she left she saw the horses being driven back up the road away from the city.

"The men were jeering each other and shouting. They seemed to be messing about to get a reaction. I am appalled people can treat animals as playthings like this. It was awful to watch them being put in danger."

Councillor Ghazanfer Khaliq (Lab, Bradford Moor) said he was aware of young men riding carts up and down main roads and side streets in the Thornbury area. Some were in their early teens, he said.

"I have seen them myself," said Coun Khaliq. "I wouldn't describe what I have seen as dangerous driving, but what they are doing is potentially dangerous and it should not be allowed.

"There were similar issues a year ago and one person had to be taken to court. I am very concerned. We need to find out where they are from and take appropriate action if the video footage shows there were breaches in traffic regulations."

Community development worker Mohammed Shaukat, who lives in Killinghall, said he had seen similar incidents and called for police to take enforcement action.

"It's a problem because they are not wearing safety hats and not obeying road signs like other road users," said Mr Shaukat, 43. "I don't want to judge these young lads. We should speak to them and see what they want. But if they are doing something wrong there needs to be enforcement."

A West Yorkshire Police spokesman said they were aware of the issue.

"We are working in partnership with Bradford City Council to look into it," the spokesman said.

"The public can help by reporting any incidents, in which horse and carts are being driven dangerously, to their local Neighbourhood Policing Team."

Courts would have to decide whether a horse and cart was a vehicle. If an injury was caused by the manner of the driving a charge under the 1861 Act of causing bodily harm by wanton and furious driving could be brought. Failing to conform with a red light is covered by section 36 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act and can result in a fine.

e-mail: steve.wright @telegraphandargus.co.uk


 
The gypsys that live in market harborough, Leicestershire thrash there horses just the same in the carts but they are well fed and looked after you rarely see a skinny one what worrys me is how young some of them are having known one since she was a foal she must have only been just two. A few went threw a red light when i was waiting to come threw a while back but it wasn't to dangerous as no one had pulled off but it did make me cross but they always seem to have trouble pulling them up.
 
We have the exact same thing here. Many of the horses are underweight and very young, and some are glossy and well cared for. The Police here have logged them doing 31mph down a very busy dual carriageway.
 
*cringe* God I can't wait till we move out of here and up Lancashire/Cumbria way. Leeds Road and Tong Street are essentially trot-racing tracks; there is a highly dubious trot-racing yard somewhere just off tong Street and their horses don't have brakes fitted. A while ago the OH and I were round that area in slow moving traffic when one of them overtook and pulled in front, but the bus we'd been behind stopped. Unfortunately his horse was NOT about to stand still and started rearing and jumping into the face of oncoming traffic, so he yanked it left and just sent it speeding up onto the pavement and off out of sight. He couldn't have seen even as much of the pavement as we could and for all he knew there might have been a mother with her pushchair coming the other way.

The appalling thing is that this isn't just the odd once or twice; it happens a couple of times a week, and whilst cars should (and generally do try to) make way for horses, the buggy drivers pay will go round the wrong side of traffic islands, over pavements, through red lights, across verges, or in fact wherever they feel like and at whatever speed they can get out of the horse. Regardless of how well kept they look, I would certainly question how well treated those horses are.
 
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