Horses eye is sore

TigerTail said:
You need to feed the herb eyebright, I get mine from hilton herbs, and a fly fringe has solved it for my friesian :)
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Thanks Tiger Tail for your advice. I will look into getting that, I've seen it for sale on ebay and will investigate if my usual herbal supplier can offer me any. x
 
applecart14 said:
Wow just seen your reply Chestnut Cob. Unbelievable! Why do you assume that I don't already use a fly mask/fly fringe and fly spray already????? Honestly I've owned six horses, been riding for 30 years, evented, dressage to elem, show jumped to disco, hundreds of fun rides, ridden problematic horses that have bucked reared and bolted, seen my fair share of accidents, seen a lot of injuries on the big yards I've been on, spent thousands getting my horse right, read magazines and veterinary papers till they have come out of my ears.

I am not a beginner who knows nothing (not that there is anything wrong with that), why do people jump to conclusions???
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Calm down, jeez. I made a suggestion in response to gg's question. Horse gets flies in his eyes and pollen so it seemed an obvious answer. Sorry if it came across as sarcastic but wasn't mean that way so there was no need to be so vicious and rude. Don't jump to conclusions about my meaning. Others posted the same suggestion and didn't get such a vile response. I don't care how many years you've had horses, no one knows all if the answers. Anyway I hope you get the horse sorted and find a way to prevent it in future.
 
applecart14 said:
Yeah keep him in all summer so the pollen doesn't irate his eye, never ride him so he doesn't get a sweaty face and then rub it on a hay net, wrap him in cotton wool (particuarly his face) and give him a nasal tube to breathe through? Place him in a deep freeze???

Assume you are being sarky GG?

Not really sure how I can prevent fly eye or an irritation to pollen other than to do as I am doing now and put a mask on him every night before I turn out, keeping dust down by not mucking out with him in the stable (not that I ever have done) and putting a fly fringe on him when out hacking, oh and wiping his eye with eye and nose lotion.

Have you any ideas GG??? I am sure you will share them with me without any hesitation.
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Get off your high horse, learn a little humility and stop projecting your own need to be contentious onto me.

If you saw sarcasm in my post....it says nothing about me but absolutely everything about you.

And actually, yes, there is plenty you can do to prevent fly eye. No, I shall not bother telling you because you don't actually want to hear it.
 
Is this the same horse you got your knickers in a twist about when posters pointed out that competing on bute was not a great idea?
 
applecart14 said:
Wow just seen your reply Chestnut Cob. Unbelievable! Why do you assume that I don't already use a fly mask/fly fringe and fly spray already????? Honestly I've owned six horses, been riding for 30 years, evented, dressage to elem, show jumped to disco, hundreds of fun rides, ridden problematic horses that have bucked reared and bolted, seen my fair share of accidents, seen a lot of injuries on the big yards I've been on, spent thousands getting my horse right, read magazines and veterinary papers till they have come out of my ears.

I am not a beginner who knows nothing (not that there is anything wrong with that), why do people jump to conclusions???
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you need to get over yourself , for what it is worth I have worked with horses for over 25yrs and my mare wears neither a fly mask/fringe nor fly spray and we have no 'fly eye' problems
 
'Thanks for the suggestion's ester, I will swap to a fly mask for riding and consult with my vet about how to prevent a flare up again by either starting an antibiotic eye ointment early (not over the counter stuff ;) ), keeping tear ducts flushed if required.'

That's no problem at all applecart14, I don't mind typing out helpful advice, I hope it goes better for you next year.

Fwiw ... I would not be using whatever eye/nose lotion is. I would be wiping with sterile saline and sterile swabs only.
 
Hi Applecart........this is meant to be helpful, okay??!! :) Should you get a re-occurence and wish to investigate it further/get vet but want to avoid the £80 call out, then Walnut Hill Equine are doing free call-outs for new customers. Not sure if you are aware, but this is Bridget and Jack (ex John Brooks/Spring Paddocks) who set up on their own earlier this year. They are on facebook and tel no is 01564 794104
 
applecart14 said:
No he never has the vet which is why I've spent the last ten years on approx £9K of treatment for spavin, arthritis in coffin joint, colic, PRP and other minor things in between. That's not to mention the £1K I have just spent in the last year investigating something that has resolved itself.

So heh he never sees the vet...... I just like to give them lots of money for their Xmas meal out.
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Count yourself lucky. I spent over £40K on treating my horse, mostly for epilepsy and then arthritis and Cushings - anti convulsants at £400 every month which also meant I couldn't use any cheap antiinflammatories, it had to be Metacam at over £50 a month All out of my single wage. I even had to check that being a barbiturates addict, I could still have her put down by lethal injection. Good job the vets kindly didn't add anything to the cost of the drugs.
 
fatpiggy said:
Count yourself lucky. I spent over £40K on treating my horse, mostly for epilepsy and then arthritis and Cushings - anti convulsants at £400 every month which also meant I couldn't use any cheap antiinflammatories, it had to be Metacam at over £50 a month All out of my single wage. I even had to check that being a barbiturates addict, I could still have her put down by lethal injection. Good job the vets kindly didn't add anything to the cost of the drugs.
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I wasn't moaning about the cost fat piggy, read it properly. I was replying to someone stupidly stating that I 'never get the vet out to my horse' and explaining after nearly ten grand of treatment that I actually DO get the vet out! On more than one occasion it has actually ended up being totally unnecessary to get the vet out or even ring the vet!

I'm not going to comment further on this.

And AmyMay stop being so bitchy please. There was no need for you to have said what you said about me competing my horse with bute. But just so we are all clear on this for the last time IT WAS ON VETS ADVICE. But perhaps I shall send you a PM with my vets phone number on it so he can a) tell you that he told me to do so b) the reasons for telling me to do so c) the reasons why he is a vet and you are not.

At the end of the day I come on this forum to ask questions, help others with my advice. I do not come on to be told a) I am a bad owner b) poor horse (referring to my horse being looked after by me), c) told I do not get the vet out d) get constantly verbally bullied by a certain few who feel it is 'their job and their right' to admonish others and treat them with contempt, accusations and unkindness.


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Perhaps when you post you should provide with some helpful hints so we are sure to give you advice that you like .
 
applecart14 said:
Yeah keep him in all summer so the pollen doesn't irate his eye, never ride him so he doesn't get a sweaty face and then rub it on a hay net, wrap him in cotton wool (particuarly his face) and give him a nasal tube to breathe through? Place him in a deep freeze???

Assume you are being sarky GG?

Not really sure how I can prevent fly eye or an irritation to pollen other than to do as I am doing now and put a mask on him every night before I turn out, keeping dust down by not mucking out with him in the stable (not that I ever have done) and putting a fly fringe on him when out hacking, oh and wiping his eye with eye and nose lotion.

Have you any ideas GG??? I am sure you will share them with me without any hesitation.
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Unnecessary and uncalled for - GG is one of the most helpful, balanced and kind posters here. I get that you are feeling a little "victimized" here (for want of a better word) but GG is the last person at whom you should be venting your spleen.

I am glad your horse is feeling better - really, I am - but perhaps take a quiet moment or two to reflect on why people seem to react to your posts in the way they do . . . it may not be all them and may have something to do with the way you come across sometimes too.

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applecart14 said:
I wasn't moaning about the cost fat piggy, read it properly. I was replying to someone stupidly stating that I 'never get the vet out to my horse' and explaining after nearly ten grand of treatment that I actually DO get the vet out! On more than one occasion it has actually ended up being totally unnecessary to get the vet out or even ring the vet!

I'm not going to comment further on this.

And AmyMay stop being so bitchy please. There was no need for you to have said what you said about me competing my horse with bute. But just so we are all clear on this for the last time IT WAS ON VETS ADVICE. But perhaps I shall send you a PM with my vets phone number on it so he can a) tell you that he told me to do so b) the reasons for telling me to do so c) the reasons why he is a vet and you are not.

At the end of the day I come on this forum to ask questions, help others with my advice. I do not come on to be told a) I am a bad owner b) poor horse (referring to my horse being looked after by me), c) told I do not get the vet out d) get constantly verbally bullied by a certain few who feel it is 'their job and their right' to admonish others and treat them with contempt, accusations and unkindness.


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No, you weren't moaning about the cost, you were trying to prove what a wonderful owner you are by stating how much money you have spent on the horse. I'm afraid there is a simple choice when you own horses - you either put your hand in your pocket or you don't and take the consequences. I could have said I'm not paying and had my horse put down (it was after all a likely fatal condition) but instead I opted to pay, although to be fair, when I started 1 months supply of tablets cost £16 as opposed to the £180 it cost less than 3 years later, and I didn't see that coming. My horse also suffered very badly with ovulation pain and I always managed that myself but one day she went down in the field with it and was obviously really in pain, so I called the vet straight away and had to add the costs of an emergency call out to my monthly bill. Tough luck on me, but at least I knew it wasn't actually colic on that occasion.

I was rather surprised to see that you have 30 years experience of horses because to be frank, your posts make you sound more like a teenager. Perhaps that is just the the problem with print though, it is very black and white in every respect. ANyway, I'm glad for your horse's sake that it is improved. Sore eyes are a misery for any species.
 
OP you have a pretty stinky attitude!

The problem with asking for vet advice on a forum is that a) very few members are vets, b) no one has seen the animal first hand and c) the very fact advice on such matters is being sought would imply you are not confident enough in your own judgement to make the call on vet or not,

In these circumstances the only responsible response is to get the vet out.

FWIW one of mine gets recurrent eye problems in the summer. I have owned the horse 10+ years, know exactly how to manage him and when to call the vet. I am more than happy to treat him with OTC products for the majority of the time, but if I were to ask the question on here 'call the vet' is a perfectly reasonable response.
 
Moomin1 said:
Poor advice IMO. The horse has had a bad eye for over a week and a half. The treatment OP was giving was not working.
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At the risk of being ganged up on, this is exactly what I recently did with one of mine after eye drops didn't clear it up after a week, two treatments with cold tea, all back to normal. This is a remedy I have used many many times over the 40 years I have had horses, don't know why it works, but in some, not all cases it just does! I feel for you in some respects OP as I find it frustrating when the vets dishes something out which turns out can be bought from a chemist, but charges you god knows how much more for it. I think experience has to come into play here, if I was in any doubt whatsoever that it was anything more than simple fly irritation, I would of course get the vet.
 
WinkingWillow said:
At the risk of being ganged up on, this is exactly what I recently did with one of mine after eye drops didn't clear it up after a week, two treatments with cold tea, all back to normal. This is a remedy I have used many many times over the 40 years I have had horses, don't know why it works, but in some, not all cases it just does! I feel for you in some respects OP as I find it frustrating when the vets dishes something out which turns out can be bought from a chemist, but charges you god knows how much more for it. I think experience has to come into play here, if I was in any doubt whatsoever that it was anything more than simple fly irritation, I would of course get the vet.
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It's not about what treatment is provided, it's about having a proper veterinary diagnosis.
 
just to chime in-i wear contact lenses so in summer am prone to getting slightly sore eyes from dust and pollen getting in and irritating the lens/eye.

i do use cold tea on myself and its brilliant, never fails to work so at the first sign of weepy eyes on the neds, we use cold tea BUT...if the eye was no better at all after 24 hours i would be ringing the vet for advice and if no better at all after 48 hours i would be getting the vet out immediately.

and thats only for weepy(clear fluid) but fully open and light reactive eyes. If the eye was even partially closed (at all) or gungey(thick coloured discharge) , or not reactive to light i would want a vet straight away.

OP you have a serious problem with how you talk to people, get a grip!
 
Prince33Sp4rkle said:
just to chime in-i wear contact lenses so in summer am prone to getting slightly sore eyes from dust and pollen getting in and irritating the lens/eye.

i do use cold tea on myself and its brilliant, never fails to work so at the first sign of weepy eyes on the neds, we use cold tea BUT...if the eye was no better at all after 24 hours i would be ringing the vet for advice and if no better at all after 48 hours i would be getting the vet out immediately.

and thats only for weepy(clear fluid) but fully open and light reactive eyes. If the eye was even partially closed (at all) or gungey(thick coloured discharge) , or not reactive to light i would want a vet straight away.

OP you have a serious problem with how you talk to people, get a grip!
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F AKA known as Princess Sparkle this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black from what I remember of our previous conversation.

When the YO and five liveries all tell you your horse is okay, plus your Mum and Dad who were also down visiting my horse that weekend, and you go by what you see with your own eyes then I have no doubt (as has been proved) that I made the right decision.

Like I say the horse is fine, and turned out in his mask, and fly rug as has always been the case.
 
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Prince33Sp4rkle said:
you have a serious problem with how you talk to people, get a grip!
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OMG have you read all this thread?? If people had accused you of not giving a stuff about your horse, making out you don't get the vet for him, and never get the vet how would you respond? Coupled with the serious accusations, nastiness and bitchiness from replies from my previous posts.

With a lot less patience that me and I know that for a fact as I have had the experience of knowing first hand.
 
yes i have read the entire thread-if i didnt know you IRL i would have assumed you to be some hysterical teenage girl not an adult!

i too have been on the receiving end of a lot of accusations about not knowing my horse but mostly (not always but mostly) have come out of it calmly and without going off on one.

the trouble is, you have been lucky. eye problems need seeing within 48 hours if not clearing and you have left it far too long. People are (quite rightly IMO) up in arms about the fact that you seem to resent the £80 call out more than the fact the horse could have lost an eye..............what you have done or spent in the past has little bearing, its how you are acting and what you are doing NOW that is important.

in all honesty this is just a continuation of the bute saga-you only want answers that agree with you.
 
applecart14 said:
F AKA known as Princess Sparkle this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black from what I remember of our previous conversation.

When the YO and five liveries all tell you your horse is okay, plus your Mum and Dad who were also down visiting my horse that weekend, and you go by what you see with your own eyes then I have no doubt (as has been proved) that I made the right decision.

Like I say the horse is fine, and turned out in his mask, and fly rug as has always been the case.
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only just seen this and have NO idea what you are talking about as none of mine have ever had eye issues so not sure how it can be anything to do with pots and kettles. If you want to be a little more clear and perhaps grown up, then we can discuss it like adults :)
 
applecart14 said:
F AKA known as Princess Sparkle this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black from what I remember of our previous conversation.

When the YO and five liveries all tell you your horse is okay, plus your Mum and Dad who were also down visiting my horse that weekend, and you go by what you see with your own eyes then I have no doubt (as has been proved) that I made the right decision.

Like I say the horse is fine, and turned out in his mask, and fly rug as has always been the case.
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I did not want to comment on this thread hoping it would drop down the page and disappear but have to ask the obvious question, WHY, if you knew he was fine, believed the numerous experienced people that had actually seen him and had no intention of getting the vet, did you bother to post on here, especially after the last slating you had I cannot see why you posted if not to start an argument.

I am pleased he is ok
 
Wow this thread is still going, I thought it was long gone down the list long after the OP has gone grey.

Flies carry all sorts of diseases, I choose to use fly hoods to stop my boy.

A. being pestered by flies
B. risk of infection when they try getting into the corner of his eyes as they have got inflamed before by them and also, reduce risks of other infections or ulcers cause by him rubbing his eyes when flies are about.


Its personal choice and remember different flies colonies different parts of the country, whether you choose to use a hood/ spray/fringe is down to the owners choice.


Not to act on a potential risk of infection/ minor or serious eye problem. Is not the way of an owner who is looking out for their horse.
Too put money before and visit to me when a delicate structure like the eye is foolhardy IMO.

We get pestered by flies in the ears and I have now discovered they are called black flies and petroleum jelly in the ears can reduce biting in the ears.

http://www.horsearmor.net/pages/Biting-Flies.html
 
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