Horses Fouling On The Pavements In Portslade

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A message to the horse riders in Portslade. Please make sure the horses DO NOT foul anymore on the pavements. The other day I was walking down Foredown Road and when I got part of the way down Drove Road, there was a big pile of horse's dung that is still there. This is not the first time this has happened. It's happened three times to what I know of in Mill Lane and one time right outside somebody's garden gate and the tunnel under the motorway next to Sainsbury's. What are you horse riders doing walking the horses on the pavements for in the first place and what was one of you doing walking a horse through that tunnel? That horse must have got neck ache walking with his/her neck bent to one side where the tunnel is much lower than the horse. Please stick to the roads. It's bad enough when people don't clean-up after their dog, we don't need piles of horse's mess piling up on the pavements as well. It's so disgusting.
 

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I mean, he's not wrong. Horses shouldn't be on the pavements.

There isn't much a horse rider can do if a horse goes, dung isn't easily transported! It's also not toxic so isn't quite comparable with dog muck. However if they were on the roads it would be in/near the gutter rather than a pavement, a more convenient location for it.

Muck on pavements is an issue for many people. Aside from your average pedestrian there are people with prams/buggies, wheelchairs and people who need assistance to walk. A big pile of dung on a pavement could cause a real issue.

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How do we know how big the horse was in the tunnel 😅
Maybe a giant poo? 🤷‍♀️

No, horses should not be on a pavement, but then they should not have to because of dangerous traffic. I'm not above popping onto the footpath if it is empty, but if the horse poos I will jump off and kick it into the gutter with the side of my foot. Leaving it is rude.

The tunnel, is it a public right of way? I have taken horses through tunnels that aren't very tall before, they can be trained to lower their heads to do so. They won't get a stiff neck by lowering it, low heads is where they are designed to have them, for eating most of the day.
 

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A message to the horse riders in Portslade. Please make sure the horses DO NOT foul anymore on the pavements. The other day I was walking down Foredown Road and when I got part of the way down Drove Road, there was a big pile of horse's dung that is still there. This is not the first time this has happened. It's happened three times to what I know of in Mill Lane and one time right outside somebody's garden gate and the tunnel under the motorway next to Sainsbury's. What are you horse riders doing walking the horses on the pavements for in the first place and what was one of you doing walking a horse through that tunnel? That horse must have got neck ache walking with his/her neck bent to one side where the tunnel is much lower than the horse. Please stick to the roads. It's bad enough when people don't clean-up after their dog, we don't need piles of horse's mess piling up on the pavements as well. It's so disgusting.

Message to Darren. Find a local equestrian Facebook site, Darren, there won't be many riders just from one small area on this international forum.

Why are we on the pavements? Usually because the roads are so damned dangerous these days.

Yes, the poo should probably have been moved.
 

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I know I posted this is an eight-year-old thread. However, that was because I couldn't find a thread at first where to post my message in a thread under the Portslade area. Then I found it here so I posted it again.
 

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Message to ycbm. The horses shouldn't be on the pavements for one thing because even though the roads are dangerous, it's also more of a danger having people riding horses on the pavements. A horse can get spooked and kick its front legs in the air and kick a pedestrian in the head by accident or trample over a pedestrian. Little children are more at risk of getting killed if this happens. Horses should never be on the pavements. IT's bad enough when there's people riding bicycles on the pavements and some of them ride too fast and whiz around corners like Bodie and Doyle. Yes, I know CI5 never rode bicycles.
 

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Message to ycbm. The horses shouldn't be on the pavements for one thing because even though the roads are dangerous, it's also more of a danger having people riding horses on the pavements. A horse can get spooked and kick its front legs in the air and kick a pedestrian in the head by accident or trample over a pedestrian. Little children are more at risk of getting killed if this happens. Horses should never be on the pavements. IT's bad enough when there's people riding bicycles on the pavements and some of them ride too fast and whiz around corners like Bodie and Doyle. Yes, I know CI5 never rode bicycles.

You are wasting your time on this forum Darren, it's a very generic forum with only a few people from any one area on it. We probably have more Australians than people from near Portslade Sainsburys. Personally i find it irritating that you are preaching here about something I've never done and never seen in my own area.

So I'll repeat my advice. Find a local Facebook equestrian group and address the issue on there.
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The vast majority of riders are well aware that it is illegal to ride on pavements and footpaths and don't do so. A small minority of people in society disobey rules and laws whatever activity they are involved in. There are also a small number of times when a law-abiding rider ends up temporarily on a pavement because a horse shies unexpectedly because it is frightened of something, or the rider suddenly has to intentionally steer them onto a pavement/verge/into a driveway etc to avoid being killed or seriously injured by a bad driver. I doubt that either in the case of avoiding an accident or people who are routinely antisocial do the riders mount the pavement when there are pedestrians there, as we are all very aware of the safety of those around us when riding.

If it was someone who generally behaves badly then I'm not surprised the dropping was left, they are the sort of person who also behaves badly in other situations e.g. won't clear up after their dog, parks inconsiderately, queue jumps etc. Unfortunately they are unlikely to care if someone posts on a forum asking them to behave better This is part of a larger problem with society and how we educate people to behave in a law abiding and kind and considerate way.

If the horse was on the pavement accidentally or in order to avoid an accident then the rider should have dismounted and kicked the dropping into the road. If the road is busy then it may not have been safe for them to do so.

There is also the possibility that the rider was a child who didn't know better (and a small pony would have had no problem fitting under the low part of a bridge arch), but with the roads being so dangerous these days it is becoming less and less common for children to be allowed by parents to ride on their own on roads busy enough to have pavements (and be near a branch of Sainsbury's).

To reassure the OP, there aren't many things you can catch from horse manure, and it is extremely unusual in the UK for them to spread the more dangerous pathogens that are commonly found in dog and cat faeces such as toxoplasmosis and campylobacter.
 

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I agree that horses shouldn’t be on pavements (but I can see why people ride on an empty pavement instead of roads, given how heavy the traffic is- not saying it’s right, but the behaviour of some drivers is shocking)
Ycbm is right though OP, you’ll probably reach more local people if you find local FB pages.
 

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I quite like Bodie and Doyle sorry 😂 but yes it can be dangerous with horses legs flying about but most people are more likely to get injured by so many other things than flying horses legs where ever you are.
 

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Most likely scenario is that something happened on the road - one scary large vehicle or several all at once - and the rider(s) ended up, probably by accident, up on the pavement for a very short period. If horses are stressed they are more likely to poo. It is NOT something that most adult riders (maybe some kids but kids will be kids) will ride on the pavement as a thing.

Have you ever heard of a pedestrian, especially on a pavement, being injured by a horse? If there has been one incident where it was genuinely a complete bystander I'll be VERY surprised.

It is absolutely awful riding on the roads in many places, we all need to be a little more forgiving and conscious of safety for ALL road users. Horse riders are incredibly vulnerable and many have given up riding on the roads, often meaning slightly worse welfare for horses who enjoy getting out and about.
 

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We have shared use paths for pedestrians, cyclists and horses adjacent to the 60mph road and no one’s been trampled yet 😅
There is one bridleway near the yard where we used to livery that has been deliberately taken onto a pavement by the local council, there is no dropped kerb, the horse has to step up to mount the pavement. I have never heard of any injuries caused to anyone there.
 
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