Horses poss stolen - Bampton, OX18

[Tinseltoes]

] Think you may have problems proving ownership though!! Photos dont really prove ownership.

 

[maxweg]

I feel a bit mean in my comments but we had a lot of trouble from that area of the village. It wasnt really the travellers but their visitors that caused the problems (not horse related!) but I did live in constant fear of turning up and my beloved horse had gone! especially after questions from these men about my coloured cob. I did have her freeze marked and took every precaution possible but it is every horse owners nightmare.
I personally would rather see my horse dead that not knowing where she is.

I really feel for these owners of the horses

 

[the watcher]

maxweg, the only observation I would make about your post is that these individuals rarely sh1t on their own doorstep - although of course there is no accounting for their visitors

 

[The_snoopster]

But they do pass on local info on horses for their "visitors", I am always suspicious when the local ones to me are sniffing around.

 

[jholtom]

well as you know the horses where 5 mins up the road to the 'site' I agree they don't [****] on their own doorstep I also agree they pass info on, we are sure that a breed of person from a couple of villages away are responisible or visitors to them, we have had the police look there today but no horses there at all BUT a vehicle the same that was seen collecting scrap with a horse trailer on does belong to them.. stow fair is on soon and the owner has been going to all the horse sales he has heard about, the police are happy with photos as they know the horses belong to paul, they have passports as well... yes freeze marks etc would have been nice but they don't have it so no point brooding over it now.. tomorrow I will check on my lot and be off on the road on the hunt..

 

[Weezy]

I hope you aren't talking about the people living opp Kenns Farm, on your right entering Carterton from Alvescot

 

[jholtom]

no out the A415 way

 

[Weezy]

Good, good

 

[maxweg]

I totally aggree about "own doorstep" and all that and that is what I first said to the police when I was asked my opinion when my tack was stolen, however as time went on a few things came to light and i did begin to wonder who was involved in the tack theft.
I dont feel that anyone can be accused without concrete evidence or it becomes a slippery slope.
Now everyone needs to focus on getting these horses back

good luck

 

[Weezy]

Whoever robbed us knew of our every movement, they stole at dusk, it was raining, there was only an hour window between the last person leaving the yard and the night hay being given - very, very precise...lesson learnt, no tack is left at our yard any longer

 

[haggerston]

definatly check were you are advised -more then once

 

[maxweg]

our fields backed onto their site.!! A wheel barrow was found at the perimeter of the fence a few weeks later(we think this was used to move the tack) The farmer didnt say anything to us as I think he just didnt want involved as he has to live around them!!

I fully took responsibily as I should of known better!!
hard lesson learnt .I am now on full livery in Yorkshire with secure alarmed tack room with cctv!!

 

[Tinseltoes]

Sad thing is those horses are probebly miles away by now.Lets hope someone somewhere sees them.
I did read about a case where the pony was found over a year later and it had a new passport and new microchip.
Thing is,if the person who has the horse,gets it microchipped and new passport????
I know someone who had her horse stolen,she had loads of pics with dates on too and she had a big battle on her hands to get him back,because he wasnt microchipped at the time.The person who had him,claimed he bought it off a friend.She didnt get him back until a year later.

 

[jholtom]

still no news

, done everything we can now to make them 'Hot', we had a lead yesterday but if they had been there they had been moved on, the vehicle seen in the village that day was there but no horses. hoping they appear at stow fair now.. I sit here thinking they are somewhere in a field just waiting to go to a sale and i just wish i knew where

 

[Tinseltoes]

You never know what the thieves did with them.Because theyre no microchipped,the thieves might of alreafy got them chipped and unfortunatly can get passports on the day if they were shipping to Italy or France etc.. Hope the horse/pony show up soon. As you say,they could be in a field hidden.

 

[jholtom]

Its horrible knowing you are doing everything you can but not getting anywhere

 

[Tinseltoes]

It must be devestating,not knowing where they are.

 

[GREYSMEADOW]

You may want to check out regular equine sales in Sussex.

3rd Thursday Monthly - next sale is Thurs. 18th February.

Please pm me for contact tel. number if you don't already have them.

I do hope the ponies turn up save and sound soon.

 

[haggerston]

The passport system is flawed something needs to be done about it .It seems to be easy to get them passported .

people are having horses stolen and are locating them with new passports and yes in some cases chips , it is a nightmare and then you have to prove you are the owner , can you afford the legal fees ?or walk away ?These groups know how to work the system and the law and milk it for every penny dont think it wont happen to you because it can !And there is no help really if it does happen to you !This has happened to someone i know and is ongoing and the animal has probably long gone now.I really do hope you get them back

 

[jholtom]

thanks, it is so frustrating, i cannot think of anything else to do now, I have emailed every outlet that relates to it in the yellow pages, (1/2 ignored me) put posters on everything I can far and wide.

if you could help me put a poster up please could you send me your email addy so I can send you one x

 

[aduffield]

Have to TOTALLY AGREE it is well known horse thieves stay away from freeze marking. how many times have horses been left behind because of their marks when they have taken other horses. if people can't be bothered to protect their horses don't start moaning when they go missing. hard i know but you ask a police man to find a horse and he doesn't know where to start. ask him to find a horse with a number on it's back and he can. in case anyone interested thames valley police have called big conference in lambourne on 22nd to discuss all aspects of rural crime.

 

[jholtom]

Coldlady I understand your thoughts on this but please don't say we have no right to moan about about our horses going missing and that someone decided we should no longer have them, they are family pets and they owners are heartbroken, My friend that is leading the hunt for them who happens to be a police woman has said that when a certain person takes your horses they don't care if you paint them pink they will change anything you put on them which has been the case around here several times, someone i know in swindon lost 4 all freeze branded, got one back and they had tried to change the brand injuring the horse in the process, months of vet care later the horse is still badly scarred.. I read all the comments to the owners that are put on here but I am sure they don't want to hear that they should not be moaning..

 

[The_snoopster]

I have all of my ponies freezemarked but I do not feel invincable and safe from horse thieves, It makes my blood boil when I hear of horses/ponies being stolen.
I really wish the authorities would take horse theft more seriously, wishing you luck in your search.

 

[pixi]

as we know sue police do not investiagate horse theft they just log details as told when we reported star to police, also they do not prosecute the people who have them and as for a new passport they leave that with the person who applied for it as its there property they paid for it regardless thats its fraud .a good vetting can prove a horses details off a old passport and photos even its been chiped or brander after the theft so theres always hope horses can be returnd to original owners

 

[Abandluc]

Please can someone post the link to the facebook group.

I hope these ponies are found soon, I'll send the link to my facebook friends.
Lets make them as hot as we can

 

[Cuffey]

http://www.facebook.com/?sk=messages&tid=305423524423#!/group.php?gid=324495680578

 

[jholtom]

pixi, i cannot get a private message to you it says you not accepting them !!! a white van possible transit or open back witha horsebox on the back is the only info we have, it was around the village in the day asking for scrap x

 

[jholtom]

FINGERS CROSSED EVERYONE, OWNER ON WAY TO SOMERSET THINK THEY BEEN FOUND, WILL UPDATE YOU ALL AS SOON AS I KNOW XXXXX

 

[pixi]

brill lets hope its them

 

[jholtom]

I so hope so x