Horses ridden on just the curb

Seriously impressed :D


ETS-- But these are incredibly skilled riders and have such quiet hands that they aren't upsetting the horse in the mouth.... doesn't take away from the fact that for your average person to ride with just a curb rein... makes it a very very harsh bit indeed.
 
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Now I'd like to see us lot do that on our neds :D

Most of the would probably freak out at the people sat in the middle under the parasol.:eek:

Does look like fun, why can't we have more comepetitions like that over here?
 
Working Equitation is done in the UK, the European Championship was at Hartpury 2 or 3 years ago. There are different grades, and these are obviously the top classes, when you ride one handed and at a collected canter. Flying changes, half pass, etc. etc.
There are classes which start at a lower level. The competitions are held at yards where there are the Portugese or Spanish horses.
 
Woooow what a good rider...haha we have something very similar to that in South Africa, at the high levels the tests are quite silly but I'm fairly sure it doesn't involve half passing over a pole :D We do, however, have camels and the like involved in some of ours.
 
That was wonderful to watch, beautiful riding that most normal folk can only dream of acheiving. I know with all the will in the world i could never be that good. Amazing horses as well, the aids were minute and they responded imediately. They did both look a little unhappy in the mouth going aound the barrels at 1.40ish though, so when the curb has to be used rather than just leg and weight and neck reining type aids, it is obviously a little uncomfortable. Although i guess all horses have a little discomfort at times with a bit.

But yes, these people using just the curb is a million miles away from what would happen with most of us. These riders could probably use the harshest bit in existence and cause very little discomfort, but 99.9% of riders couldn't.

I wouldn't say that riding on the curb is always wrong. I would say it is wrong if the horse looks uncomfortable.
 
I don't know what is the general rule in Portugal. Here in spain even tiny kids ride on just the curb, the horses don't take contact on the bit they avoid it by being behind vertical a lot. To say they have light mouths is not really true, they are just avoiding. Trying to retrain one previously ridden like this is interesting to say the least.
At the local dressage shows you rarely see a snaffle, etc at any level, most are in pelhams with one (curb) rein. At least the pelhams shafts tend to be shorter than the original riding bits.
http://www.google.es/images?hl=es&c...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CCUQsAQwAA have a butchers at some of these.
At least the habit of using the double reins on a serrated metal noseband is dying out. 90% of the older horses around here have horrible scars on their noses.
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It is improving slowly though. It's not nice to see in general
 
Pah! My horse could do that easy! Do you think the people in the middle at the table were just waiting for their sangria and lunch? ;)
 
my post was a reaction to a thread in the gallery that seemed to imply, among other things, that 'foreign' countries arent as 'kind' to their horses or as good a horsemen. Now, I have no rose tinted specs about what happens in Portugal, Spain or Kent :) but this is highly skilled, impressive riding by anyone's book and to tar everyone with the same brush is ludicrous. there is good and bad riding everywhere and I disagree that all these horses are behind the bit although they are mega sensitive to the seat and hands and alot of riders have a bit of a culture shock when they try and ride one because often they can't ride one side of them.Of course there are those trained incorrectly and too quickly-sounds like 3 and 4 yos jumping huge fences to me!

and in Portugal the serrata is much less common-but it is common to use their version of a pelham with one rein.
 
Check out Marcia Wakeman also on You Tube. She was one of the members of last year's GB Bronze medal winning team in Portugal and does Working Equitation clinics in the UK. You don't have to have an Iberian horse to do this. Its great fun and really teaches control of the horse. Check out the cattle cutting, which is the final stage in international competitions.
 
Yep its the roots of western which was bought to the americas by the spanish conquistidores and modified.. it is said that the red indians when they first saw horses and riders the thought they were seeing one animal !!! it is the aim in western to get the horse started in a snaffle get him realy established and understanding the lightest of aids then move on to understand the curb bit so you ride one handed with just the weight of the reins as the contact!!!
 
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Yep its the roots of western which was bought to the americas by the spanish conquistidores and modified.. it is said that the red indians when they first saw horses and riders the thought they were seeing one animal !!! it is the aim in western to get the horse started in a snaffle get him realy established and understanding the lightest of aids then move on to understand the curb bit so you ride one handed with just the weight of the reins as the contact!!!
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quite! there is a whole world of horsemanship out there that is far beyond what alot of people would think, horses for courses and all that.
 
I wouldn't like to see any horse ridden English style on just a curb rein - but this is obviously totally different, and rather impressive. Wish we had this sort of thing in the UK!
 
Ziggy_ said:
I wouldn't like to see any horse ridden English style on just a curb rein - but this is obviously totally different, and rather impressive. Wish we had this sort of thing in the UK!
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But we do - the Working Equitation European Champs were held at Hartpury a couple of years ago, we also have our own British Team, I believe that Sherene Ramatallah runs British Working Equitation :)
 
Ziggy_ said:
I wouldn't like to see any horse ridden English style on just a curb rein - but this is obviously totally different, and rather impressive. Wish we had this sort of thing in the UK!
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Yes we do go to a western equestian soc , aqha uk show or clinic
I did and havent looked back ....
 
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Seriously impressed :D


ETS-- But these are incredibly skilled riders and have such quiet hands that they aren't upsetting the horse in the mouth.... doesn't take away from the fact that for your average person to ride with just a curb rein... makes it a very very harsh bit indeed.
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yes good riders with an inderpendent seat and have been taught how to use the reins proprely
and not the stupid english idea of pulling on both reins all the time instead of asking then giving back with one rein and , using your legs, and not kick kick pull especialy on a young green horse all it does is confuse the horse he can brace against the pull, throw his head up and jig around....
 
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