horses that rear

kerilli said:
rearers, fine, any day. flippers, if they've gone vertical (truly vertical, as in wobbling and losing their balance), more than once, no thanks. they're brainless if they do it more than once, and i don't want to be near a brainless horse, let alone on it.
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When he was young seb was quite partial to chucking me off when he didnt want to do as asked, he has a nice buck and also a nice rear. He doesnt do the rearing any more (age and schooling) but it was usually the result of a temper tantrum. I used to throw myself up his neck and put my leg on and he would come back down to earth. But he has never ever flipped and I always knew there was no chance of him going over - he would never go that vertical - he is way too sensible and into self preservation. But a horse who went over - definitely a different cup of tea.
 
agree with Rearer vs Flipper- I don't think Id get on either now. Couple of years ago I would have done for the hell of it- I just dont see the point in risking my neck/back/general self!!
One of mine Bucks- huge rodeo bucks that can send you flying if you aren't prepared. If, when I get on, he is in a 'bucking' mood, I hack out- it only happens in the school, possibly due to him being ex riding school.
 
I think it depends how you ride them. I've always been told to spin them in a very tight circle as soon as you feel it coming and this has worked for me so far. Just keep doing it until horse is fed up and eventually will go forwards. I would not take a horse on that had ever come down, or was totally reckless as it did it ie flinging itself violently into fences etc. If if was this bad I'd wonder why it hadn't been taken back to basic ground work a long time ago.

I also prefer to sit a rear than a back jarring buck. *
 
ihatework said:
Half height rear I'd work with.
Full up to the point of going over backwards, no thank you very much.
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Bloss reared and went over backwards with me in the opening meet out hunting about 6/7 years ago - it was shear over excitement on her part as i was having to make her wait at a fence as someone in front had fallen off. She has got a massive buck on her and also leaps and twists - bucking kills my back but im quite happy to sit on a buck. Little rears dont bother me but full up wobbling rears do.
 
Think I am falling in with the majority here. Flippers - not a hope in hell. If my younster did it once I would give him the benefit of doubt and hope that was a one off, if he did it again I would seek professional help pdq. Friends mare is a rearer, any situation she doesn't like, she just stands up, vertical. She hasn't gone over yet but I'd be very nervous of it happenning in the future I must admit, and would personally have got rid or sent her to someone more experienced for schooling by now, as I think it also begins to affect how you ride them... Always waiting for the next issue.
Mine bucks though ( ihw can testify to the rather active back end!) but he's only had me off once in two years since backing now and it's a very straight buck through sheer excitement, rather than a twisty broncy 'get off me' buck, which I wouldn't be so relaxed about!
 
I think all horses have their default reaction, for some its running away, bucking, spinning, rearing or spooking. I think all of them are dangerous but the point of schooling is to ensure these default reactions reduce in severity and are overridden to some degree.
Whatever the horse you have, I think it will always be a work in progress.
 
dressager said:
I think it depends how you ride them. I've always been told to spin them in a very tight circle as soon as you feel it coming and this has worked for me so far.
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This is a lifesaver! I've seen my horse go vertical and almost flip once, scared the crap out of me, luckily he's never gone quite that high with me, but having this little trick in the bag gives me the confidence to keep riding even when he's chucking the toys out the pram! Shortening your reins and wedging one fist behind your knee helps too, there's not a lot they can do from that position
 
Tarr Steps, you will be relieved to find you don't look like this Elmer...

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Horses that buck I have no problem with, however anything that properly reared, got 'educated' and then went up properly a second time would be shipped out before their front feet hit the ground again. I think it was possibly the only 'tipping point' in our yard, if they jumped we would find a way to work with them whatever their quirks, but definitely not if they reared.
 
Mine rears, I didn't know that when I bought him, and probably wouldn't have if I had been told.

It is his way of having a tantrum and he has only ever gone 'right up' a couple of times, but it is very un-nerving and really knocks my confidence after. He has also got a very light soft mouth and at our first ever xc I had my reins too tight in the start box and that combined with the nerves / tension made him go up - not a good start to our first ever xc because all the stewards and spectators gasped really loudly!

He is only 14.2 and normally a very obliging fun pony, so I put up with it, but if he were bigger I'm not sure I could cope.
 
i used to have a mare that would rear & cavort all over the place when the mood took her, but it never really bothered me, i just got used to her having a strop, i did refuse to hunt her after she spent a whole day rearing (i'd been dropped off & in the days before phones couldn't get picked up early) & there was no way i was getting off & leading her anywhere!

have had another couple of horses that have reared occasionally...mainly in an OMG i am so excited please let me go type way, not in a i'm going to get you on the floor kind of way. generally though it's always been due to excitement & nothing else, which hasn't overly concerned me

did have another horse come over backwards on me & pin me to the road.... thought i was going to get run over by a car.... not pleasant.
 
Totally agree, established rearers know exactly how far to go, flippers different story! I too sort the odd naughty one. I am going to buck the trend though I can sit on a bronking bucking spinner all day and it will never worry me. When they rear there is always a little part of me that says 'your too bloody old for this!!!' Ha ha doesnt stop me though!!
 
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