only_me
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Hmm well my horse is "stunning" so there!
lol
I like "leg in each corner"
I like "leg in each corner"
Horsey terminology and irritating sayings
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Storminateacup
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"Ponio" is my pet hate, it sounds so middle class or as if its trying to be in refering to a non-descript hairy pony ( usually) it this way. ( posh Thelwellian characters spring to mind)
Also refering to yourself as "mum"when talking about the animals owner, be it yourself or someone else.(anthropomorphising the relationship experienced between horse and owner)
"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
Also refering to yourself as "mum"when talking about the animals owner, be it yourself or someone else.(anthropomorphising the relationship experienced between horse and owner)
"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
Boxers
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'bred in the purple'
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what does that actually mean?
'bred in the purple'
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what does that actually mean?
emma69
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Maize is fed to horses as a grain in the same way as oats, but contains about twice as much energy so is used for horses in hard fast work. You most often see it as micronized, and people confuse it with barley. There are a few mixes that contain maize, but can't remember off the top of my head which ones.
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Not slacking multitasking
posh
purple dye came from cochneal (sp?) and was expensive.
purple dye came from cochneal (sp?) and was expensive.
emma69
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Cochineal (crushed beetles) is red, and still used in food dye etc today. The original purple was a shellfish, used in Rome, and was so expensive only emperors or very senior generals were allowed to wear it, hence if you were 'born into the purple' you were a member of the elite.
In Europe, because of its expense, the royal families claimed the colour, and some banned mere commoners from wearing it, even if they could have afforded it. It wasn't until the late 19th C that commercial purple dye came into existence.
In Europe, because of its expense, the royal families claimed the colour, and some banned mere commoners from wearing it, even if they could have afforded it. It wasn't until the late 19th C that commercial purple dye came into existence.
Weezy
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"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
Fairynuff
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Maize is fed to horses as a grain in the same way as oats, but contains about twice as much energy so is used for horses in hard fast work. You most often see it as micronized, and people confuse it with barley. There are a few mixes that contain maize, but can't remember off the top of my head which ones.
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I refuse point blank to feed maize. Maize is for fattening pigs and meat poultry, it is not really suitable for equines. Any 'mix' that enters here is chucked out if seen to contain lots of the stuff. Maize gives a wonderful yellow colour to poultry meat. M.
Maize is fed to horses as a grain in the same way as oats, but contains about twice as much energy so is used for horses in hard fast work. You most often see it as micronized, and people confuse it with barley. There are a few mixes that contain maize, but can't remember off the top of my head which ones.
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I refuse point blank to feed maize. Maize is for fattening pigs and meat poultry, it is not really suitable for equines. Any 'mix' that enters here is chucked out if seen to contain lots of the stuff. Maize gives a wonderful yellow colour to poultry meat. M.
emma69
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What is your thinking behind this? Do you not like any concentrates, or do you view maize differently to oats, barley etc?
teddyt
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Most mixes (including 'cool' mixes) contain maize. It is the yellow flakes that look like cornflakes. Although higher in energy than oats and barley the energy is released the slowest following digestion compared to other grains.
No foal should be fed cereals!
No foal should be fed cereals!
3BayGeldings
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Can someone tell me what 'a leg in each corner' means? I can't say i've heard it before!
emma69
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I am full of useless facts! Never remember the important things, but the trivial - I am your gal!!! My favourite one, American Airlines saved $40,000 by eliminating one olive from their first class salads. This gave rise to the expression in business and personal savings 'find your olive' - i.e. elimate something that will save you money, and you likely won't even notice.
Ellies_mum2
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Maize is fed to horses as a grain in the same way as oats, but contains about twice as much energy so is used for horses in hard fast work. You most often see it as micronized, and people confuse it with barley. There are a few mixes that contain maize, but can't remember off the top of my head which ones.
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Ahhhh Thanks for the explanation. Much appreciated
Maize is fed to horses as a grain in the same way as oats, but contains about twice as much energy so is used for horses in hard fast work. You most often see it as micronized, and people confuse it with barley. There are a few mixes that contain maize, but can't remember off the top of my head which ones.
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Ahhhh Thanks for the explanation. Much appreciated
Charmaine18
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I'm another one who hates the term "breaking". It's so violent!
Weezy
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Can someone tell me what 'a leg in each corner' means? I can't say i've heard it before!
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Steady on it's feet, not going to fall on it's face in a hurry, what you want in a hunter
Can someone tell me what 'a leg in each corner' means? I can't say i've heard it before!
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Steady on it's feet, not going to fall on it's face in a hurry, what you want in a hunter
3BayGeldings
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I see! I'd normally call that sure-footed, now i have a new phrase to use
Lolo
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Oooops! I use most of these! But I think that a horse can be an XC machine if its only done PN because, say its a 14hh proper pony, then 1m is pretty big!
I hate "Tries hard to please" because I know he definitely didn;t, and pushbutton when talking about a pony which looks easy. It may be pushbutton, but no one else has figured out which buttons to press yet!
I hate "Tries hard to please" because I know he definitely didn;t, and pushbutton when talking about a pony which looks easy. It may be pushbutton, but no one else has figured out which buttons to press yet!
Silverspring
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'Full up 14.2hh' it's 14.2 or it's not, who gives a [****] what height it is when you take it's shoes off and pair it's feet back til it can barely walk!
'Breaking in' it just makes me cringe having seen a man tie a large WB down with a stirrup leather and 'break' it, I now associate the phrase with this technique which I know is daff.
'On the bit' such a misconception and so many people spend hours faffing with the shape the horse's head and neck make and not even considering what it's back and quarters are doing.
Sure I'll think of more later
'Breaking in' it just makes me cringe having seen a man tie a large WB down with a stirrup leather and 'break' it, I now associate the phrase with this technique which I know is daff.
'On the bit' such a misconception and so many people spend hours faffing with the shape the horse's head and neck make and not even considering what it's back and quarters are doing.
Sure I'll think of more later
fizzer
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Breaking in ( grr)
100% bombproof ( Doubt if a bomb did go off horse would still be stood still)
Dope on a rope
Jumping machine
Goes all day ( as if it would gallop all day)
100% bombproof ( Doubt if a bomb did go off horse would still be stood still)
Dope on a rope
Jumping machine
Goes all day ( as if it would gallop all day)
Fairynuff
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What is your thinking behind this? Do you not like any concentrates, or do you view maize differently to oats, barley etc?
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as Im off to bed now, I have cheated. My answer is explained here.........
http://www.macarthurvet.com.
see, 'maize'.
What is your thinking behind this? Do you not like any concentrates, or do you view maize differently to oats, barley etc?
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as Im off to bed now, I have cheated. My answer is explained here.........
http://www.macarthurvet.com.
see, 'maize'.
emma69
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The 'full up' thing, I am in two minds about - I have come across some horses and ponies (resists the urge to say ponios!) who have high withers, so measure as, say 14.2, but in terms of the rest of it, is closer to a 13.2 - likewise, something with low withers may measure as 14.2 but be far more like a 15h especially if it is a bit chunky as well.
emma69
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Link doesn't work for me. Night night.
LizScott
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"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
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Yep I definitely prefer these two to "on the bit" and in fact think that they are perfectly obvious and useful sayings! I absolutely loath people who talk about horses as "it" - at least have the decency to say he/she!!
Have to admit to refering to my horses as ponios and to myself as mum ...runs to hide under the table
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"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
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Yep I definitely prefer these two to "on the bit" and in fact think that they are perfectly obvious and useful sayings! I absolutely loath people who talk about horses as "it" - at least have the decency to say he/she!!
Have to admit to refering to my horses as ponios and to myself as mum ...runs to hide under the table
lauraandjack
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"has potential"
Everything 'has potential' - whether there is any chance of it ever being realised is another matter entirely!!
Everything 'has potential' - whether there is any chance of it ever being realised is another matter entirely!!
emma69
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Maize (or Corn) Top
Maize is becoming more popular as a concentrate feed for horses. It has the highest energy level of all the grains. Be careful when buying cracked maize as it is susceptible to damage caused by moisture including mould. Cracked maize with a musty odour is likely to deteriorate very quickly. Do not store any cracked grain for more than 4 weeks as this increases its chance of absorbing moisture and being contaminated by mycotoxins.
Maize supplies good quantities of vitamin A. It is deficient in some amino acids and has a poor protein quality. It is very low in fibre and is thus a very concentrated feed. Do not feed large amounts of maize to horses as it can cause digestive upsets. Maize should make up no more than 25% of any grain mix. You should cut it out or reduce the amount fed on rest days. Don't swap a dipper of oats for a dipper of maize unless you want to substantially increase the energy content of the ration. Unlike oats, the starch in maize is not digested especially well and optimum digestion requires heating e.g. extrusion, expansion or micronising.
I think that is what it is - I googled!
In terms of quality and storage, I only ever fed micronized, which doesn't have the same mould issue as cracked.
In terms of fibre / vitamins / amino acids etc, it isn't normally fed on its own, so these things don't become an issue. The fact it is low in protein is a positive bonus for some horses who need the energy, but need to keep the protein low - such as those who are prone to tying up, or who have allergic reactions to high protein feeds.
In terms of digestion, again, I fed micronized, so not an issue.
Maize is becoming more popular as a concentrate feed for horses. It has the highest energy level of all the grains. Be careful when buying cracked maize as it is susceptible to damage caused by moisture including mould. Cracked maize with a musty odour is likely to deteriorate very quickly. Do not store any cracked grain for more than 4 weeks as this increases its chance of absorbing moisture and being contaminated by mycotoxins.
Maize supplies good quantities of vitamin A. It is deficient in some amino acids and has a poor protein quality. It is very low in fibre and is thus a very concentrated feed. Do not feed large amounts of maize to horses as it can cause digestive upsets. Maize should make up no more than 25% of any grain mix. You should cut it out or reduce the amount fed on rest days. Don't swap a dipper of oats for a dipper of maize unless you want to substantially increase the energy content of the ration. Unlike oats, the starch in maize is not digested especially well and optimum digestion requires heating e.g. extrusion, expansion or micronising.
I think that is what it is - I googled!
In terms of quality and storage, I only ever fed micronized, which doesn't have the same mould issue as cracked.
In terms of fibre / vitamins / amino acids etc, it isn't normally fed on its own, so these things don't become an issue. The fact it is low in protein is a positive bonus for some horses who need the energy, but need to keep the protein low - such as those who are prone to tying up, or who have allergic reactions to high protein feeds.
In terms of digestion, again, I fed micronized, so not an issue.
Storminateacup
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"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
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Actually I do agree with you Weezy, but so many people don't understand what they are supposed to be doing to acheive this great feel, and they just bat the ter s around as if they do.
I think I object to their usage when it is just used to sound like they know what they are talking about when in fact they don't. I know a few people who have used this phrase when they could barely ride a beach donkey.
Seriously
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"Between hand and leg" another common one amongst the Dressage set I believe - an ideal somewhat hard to achieve but regularly thrown about in the Dressage tearoom amongst those who who have never experienced it! .
"Behind or / in front of the leg" (likewise see above )says what it means but can easliy be misinterpreted too.
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Now see these two are great terminologies and what *on the bit* should be described as - a horse that is between hand and leg and works off the leg is everyone's idea of a perfect ride!
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Actually I do agree with you Weezy, but so many people don't understand what they are supposed to be doing to acheive this great feel, and they just bat the ter s around as if they do.
I think I object to their usage when it is just used to sound like they know what they are talking about when in fact they don't. I know a few people who have used this phrase when they could barely ride a beach donkey.
Seriously
GT_02
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I hate to hear people referring to their horses as 'It'. I also dislike the term 'breaking in'. I know it's meant in all innocence, but it's so outdated now and I much prefer the term 'backing' or 'starting'.
Vixxy
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With regard to 'breaking in', it is very hard to change a saying that you have used for 25 yrs and back then was the correct term. Yes it sounds harsh but it is a tough line to change when it has been ingrained on your mind.
I shall take note and in future on here call it starting or breaking to keep people happy and make sure I dont upset people.
I also think people say on the bit, it is a way of getting across the wider picture without having to use a whole paragraph. Of course people who know what they are talking about will understand what you mean.
I think in life people can use sayings that can be irritating whatever the subject matter, maybe I am just laid back and tolerant.
Also living in a country where everyone speaks Norwegian I am just glad of any English chat, I hear bad English everyday and now I am immune lol.
I shall take note and in future on here call it starting or breaking to keep people happy and make sure I dont upset people.
I also think people say on the bit, it is a way of getting across the wider picture without having to use a whole paragraph. Of course people who know what they are talking about will understand what you mean.
I think in life people can use sayings that can be irritating whatever the subject matter, maybe I am just laid back and tolerant.
Also living in a country where everyone speaks Norwegian I am just glad of any English chat, I hear bad English everyday and now I am immune lol.
Enfys
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"Horsio"
"Ponio"
WTF??
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Sounds like a dog biscuit
Oops, I call my horses "It, them, they, the brown/yellow/spotty/splodgy one" frequently far worse things. It doesn't mean I am about to consign them to the stockyard, just a measure of how I feel about horses at any given time.
Not heard in the UK so much:
"green broke"
"well broke"
"Horsio"
"Ponio"
WTF??
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Sounds like a dog biscuit
Oops, I call my horses "It, them, they, the brown/yellow/spotty/splodgy one" frequently far worse things. It doesn't mean I am about to consign them to the stockyard, just a measure of how I feel about horses at any given time.
Not heard in the UK so much:
"green broke"
"well broke"