how big is too big
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bugbee717
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Off now to list my 12 horses on dragon driving, as I am sure I will find a better home for them on there, that's if I can lift my fat hand to the keyboard to type, how many of you understand what 20 stone looks like, 20 stone fat, 20 stone muscle. I would show a photo of myself, but my pc is too full and can't take such a huge photo. I am 20 stone, I have been bigger, I can run, I lift over 20 stone of poo a day so yes I know what it feels like. Just because you are 20 stone it does not mean you are unfit. I have 12 horses, 6 dogs, 3 kids and spend each and everyday running around after them, and fit working in as well, when I am not doing that I ride my horse, he is 14.3hh haflinger that can lift me of the floor with his head, I don't need a crane to get on him. I also can manage to fit my fat bum in a 17inch saddle without it dropping down the sides. Trust me if my horse has a problem he does let you know, as most people have found out. So whilst this is a lovely thread, none of us know one what this women looks like, she could be a 20 stone body builder, 2 we really have no idea how fit her horse is, or of what type, you can have the same breed of horse, but they can be very different types.
happyhacking:)
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Well said bb717 
Wagtail
Horse servant
Why should it matter what she looks like? 20 stone concentrated on a 17 inch saddle is too heavy.
QueenOfCadence
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Well yes honey, I do have an eating disorder that I'm not very proud of but I do have it under control
. However, I'm short - 7 stone is not underweight for me and as I've said in previous comments, I'm very self conscious about my horse's size in relation to mine because of rude things that other riders have said to meI'm not "fattist" - because 20 stone could be an extremely tall person (which in that case she wouldn't be obese), however I DO think it's too heavy for a horse to carry, regardless if the rider is simply tall or heavily obese. You wouldn't put someone who weighs 5 stone on an 18hh horse - why put someone who weighs 20 stone on a 15hh? It's all relative and really has nothing to do with being fat or not
The-mad-cat-lady
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Awww !
Don't be so mean you lot
As long as she loves the horse what does matter how much she weighs.
Bet there are lots of skinny minnies who don't love their horses as much as she loves hers
Don't be so mean you lot
As long as she loves the horse what does matter how much she weighs.
Bet there are lots of skinny minnies who don't love their horses as much as she loves hers
Fantasy_World
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Very well said and don't worry HHO has been known over the years for its often 'fatist' or should I say 'facist' attitude
rhino
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Very well said and don't worry HHO has been known over the years for its often 'fatist' or should I say 'facist' attitude
Funny, I would have said it has been known for being interested in debates about equine welfare... like this
Hardly fascist as there is no hierarchy or control on here, barring t&cs of course.MCL if only love was enough. Sadly when you see the number of horses injured through ignorance it becomes apparent it is not enough, not by a long way. 'Love' isn't feeding a horse into obesity/laminitis, nor riding a horse that isn't up to weight..
Wagtail
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If she loved the horse she wouldn't ride it. Sorry but that's a fact. I had a 12.2 hh section B here. He kept running off and dumping his six year old rider. I am nearly ten stone and no way would I subject him to my weight, nor would any of the other adults on the yard. I am tall and a size ten, but I knew I was too heavy for that pony.
The point is not about what people look like or how heavy they are, it's about not making horses carry more weight than is good for them. A loving and thoughtful owner would know this, and not put their own desires before the welfare of the horse.
The-mad-cat-lady
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But Rhino !
Love is all you need "wink" lol
Love is all you need "wink" lol
Welshie Squisher
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Bugbee717 - doesn't matter what you look like, 20 stone is 20 stone.
I am fat myself, and yes I can call myself fat. I refuse to kid myself, to justify being fat with a whole list of what I can do.
I'd rather concentrate on the list of what I can't do, and do something about it!
And riding my 13.3hh young pony is on the can't do list at present
As I said in my previous post, of course those that are overweight for their horses will tell you their horses are fine, because to admit to being too heavy and continue riding shows little regard for the horse.
I stand by what I originally said and that is absolutely no horse should have to carry 20 stone, its just wrong, regardless of size or breed
I am fat myself, and yes I can call myself fat. I refuse to kid myself, to justify being fat with a whole list of what I can do.
I'd rather concentrate on the list of what I can't do, and do something about it!
And riding my 13.3hh young pony is on the can't do list at present
As I said in my previous post, of course those that are overweight for their horses will tell you their horses are fine, because to admit to being too heavy and continue riding shows little regard for the horse.
I stand by what I originally said and that is absolutely no horse should have to carry 20 stone, its just wrong, regardless of size or breed
rhino
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The-mad-cat-lady
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Get back in the bar !
QueenOfCadence
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Bugbee717 - doesn't matter what you look like, 20 stone is 20 stone.
I am fat myself, and yes I can call myself fat. I refuse to kid myself, to justify being fat with a whole list of what I can do.
I'd rather concentrate on the list of what I can't do, and do something about it!
And riding my 13.3hh young pony is on the can't do list at present
As I said in my previous post, of course those that are overweight for their horses will tell you their horses are fine, because to admit to being too heavy and continue riding shows little regard for the horse.
I stand by what I originally said and that is absolutely no horse should have to carry 20 stone, its just wrong, regardless of size or breed
-applause-
I'm glad you had the guts to post this Welshie -another round of applause-JFTDWS
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OK ROFL
Some of this thread is hilarious, but when people take a comment like this seriously, a piece of me dies inside!
rhino
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ETA JFTD, I know
Have obviously been spending too much time in NL this weekend Blitzen
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Does the big lass in question realise she's that fat? Speaking from experience, its scary how easy it is for weight to creep up over time and you not even realise, especially if you don't own a set of scales! My weight crept up slowly, I put on 2 stone in 2 years. I didn't even notice, I went up from a size 14 to 16 but that's all. I'm in the process of trying to drop a stone or so, as I will be backing my youngster this summer.
To be honest, I'd try to say something, subtley and kindly as possible, as it can't be good for the big gals horse. Its asking for back/joint problems in the future. Just because he CAN carry 20st doesn't necessarily mean he should have to.
To be honest, I'd try to say something, subtley and kindly as possible, as it can't be good for the big gals horse. Its asking for back/joint problems in the future. Just because he CAN carry 20st doesn't necessarily mean he should have to.
Fantasy_World
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Bugbee717 - doesn't matter what you look like, 20 stone is 20 stone.
I am fat myself, and yes I can call myself fat. I refuse to kid myself, to justify being fat with a whole list of what I can do.
I'd rather concentrate on the list of what I can't do, and do something about it!
And riding my 13.3hh young pony is on the can't do list at present
As I said in my previous post, of course those that are overweight for their horses will tell you their horses are fine, because to admit to being too heavy and continue riding shows little regard for the horse.
I stand by what I originally said and that is absolutely no horse should have to carry 20 stone, its just wrong, regardless of size or breed
So just to answer one of my questions for the record what do horses in the Household Cavalry for example carry during work and training?
Excluding the weight of the rider, saddle and other dress code worn by horse and rider a pair of drums alone weigh 9 stone 10lbs. Do most regimental riders weigh far less than 10 stone then? I think not
lula
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How rude !!!!!!!![/QUOTE]
possibly. but said with tongue firmly in cheek but that obviously went right over your head in your rush to want to be offended.
some of you take lot- funnily enough the '20 stone is fine' posters - seem to take yourselves far too seriously but if i have offended anyone who didnt get the tone of my remark in the humor it was meant, then i sincerely apologise.
cassie summers
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i am fat i am fit i ride my horse for about 45/60 mins a day mainly hacking a bit of walk a bit of trot nothing major she happily jiggy jogs all the way out and all the way back i did ask my vet did she think i was to heavy for her and she was very honest and said well i wouldnt advise taking her hunting ect for the day but an hour each day no problem i have a mw/hw shire x i have had her checked out by physio who found no problems why cant fat people be allowed to have a horse after all if i didnt go to the stables and muck out 3 horses take them out to the fields and ride i could be even bigger its my way of exercise and no i dont feed my face with crap all day but i work 12 hour night shifts sitting on my bum in front of a computer i sleep for a max of 5 hours a day my day starts when most of your days end of course i would love to be slimmer but it can be hard so stop being so fattist were not all perfect and OP if your so worried then say something to the woman
Welshie Squisher
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I have no idea fantasy_world, perhaps you should ask them?
I'm sure if you think long and hard enough you can come up with many examples of horses carrying over 20 stone, doesn't make it right!
I'm sure if you think long and hard enough you can come up with many examples of horses carrying over 20 stone, doesn't make it right!
lula
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the distribution of weight would make this much easier to carry. The drums are strapped on the side of the horse which is not the same as a concentrated weight balanced on top of the spine.
i would be very interested to hear the opinions of any equine chiropractors/back people on the forum on this subject
Starbucks
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Not all perfect, but don't all need to chose horse riding as a hobby either!
Admire that it sounds like you have a suitably sized horse but not all people do, which bothers me a lot!!
Having said that I've seen plenty of very large men hunting on suitably large horses who seem to manage ok, think 20 stone is pushing it though.
cassie summers
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no i am not 20 stone and no i didnt choose horse riding as my hobbie i am 51 years old my parents bread hunters so i grew up with horses up untill 12 years ago i bought and sold horses for a living so they are in my blood and yes i agree i do ride a suitable horse and when i sold them i would say to someone that i thought they would be to heavy if they were i sold cobs so some of my customers were overweight but why do they have to make such a fuss about it on this forum every day theres a "do you think i am to heavy thread"sorryu rant over
Fantasy_World
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possibly. but said with tongue firmly in cheek but that obviously went right over your head in your rush to want to be offended.
some of you take lot- funnily enough the '20 stone is fine' posters - seem to take yourselves far too seriously but if i have offended anyone who didnt get the tone of my remark in the humor it was meant, then i sincerely apologise.[/QUOTE]
Actually you don't know me that well hun as some on here do and are well versed with my excellent sense of humour and not being offended that easily
If you had wanted it to sound amusing perhaps you should have included a lol, or better still not said it all as there are many bigger riders in the horse world who could quite easily take offence at what was posted.
Fantasy_World
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Just a question, where do one's legs sit when seated on a horse. Personally I ride with mine tucked up my neatly formed bottom lol
Starbucks
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Maybe because there are a lot of fat people who are riding horses who are too small for them?
Most people who ask are not too big at all, because they have the sense and respect for their horse that they actually think about these things. Some people however, do not.
midi
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Bugbee717 - doesn't matter what you look like, 20 stone is 20 stone.
I am fat myself, and yes I can call myself fat. I refuse to kid myself, to justify being fat with a whole list of what I can do.
I'd rather concentrate on the list of what I can't do, and do something about it!
I stand by what I originally said and that is absolutely no horse should have to carry 20 stone, its just wrong, regardless of size or breed
I totally agree with this and anyone kidding themselves that they're 20stone of pure muscle needs to get a reality check, 20 stone is unhealthy and wrong for any human to weigh let alone have a horse carry it as well.
The-mad-cat-lady
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Try telling Geoff Capes that
lula
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Actually you don't know me that well hun as some on here do and are well versed with my excellent sense of humour and not being offended that easily
If you had wanted it to sound amusing perhaps you should have included a lol, or better still not said it all as there are many bigger riders in the horse world who could quite easily take offence at what was posted.[/QUOTE]
i dont use 'lol'. is that obligatory now?
you cant live your life worried you might have an opinion or a remark that might offend somebody somewhere or you'd be too worried about saying anything.
i still think 20 stone is too heavy for a 15hand horse.
thats my opinion and it it offends you then im really sorry but there it is.