How did they miss this?

Yes well put, I wonder how many people who voted Labour are suffering in the current labour mess
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, sadly I knew it would end in tears.. lets hope cameron has the guts to sort out the mess...like thatcher did after the labour screw up of the seventys and we can move on ...
 
Very well put indeed, I do wish someone would wipe that smirk off the PM's face.

I'm not 'into' politics, and I'm sure that all the parties and PMs over the years have had their good and bad points, and have helped and cocked things up too, but I can't see how we can get back to being a solvant country, without huge taxes being levied, and a big reduction in welfare state handouts.
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JustHelen, don't take this personally - you & your family have obviously suffered from being sh*t on by a previous power-crazed administration - but as one in her late 40s who benefitted from free university education it never ceases to amaze me that any student under 21 or so - who is going to end up with (in many cases) an increasingly devalued degree AND £12,000 (?) of debt because of the crazy 50% target of the lunatic left - could actually favour this government!! Don't get me wrong - I'm no maggie fan - but this lot are such arrogant, hypocritical............. sorry - ran out of breath!

feel better for that rant!

all the best for your future
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Yes well put, I wonder how many people who voted Labour are suffering in the current labour mess
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, sadly I knew it would end in tears.. lets hope cameron has the guts to sort out the mess...like thatcher did after the labour screw up of the seventys and we can move on ...

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Because weren't the 80's just incredible
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Thatcher absolutely wrecked..well, everything.

Cameron is AWFUL. Like a vulture with leprosy and half a brain leaking out his ears.
 
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Yes well put, I wonder how many people who voted Labour are suffering in the current labour mess
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, sadly I knew it would end in tears.. lets hope cameron has the guts to sort out the mess...like thatcher did after the labour screw up of the seventys and we can move on ...

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Because weren't the 80's just incredible
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Thatcher absolutely wrecked..well, everything.

Cameron is AWFUL. Like a vulture with leprosy and half a brain leaking out his ears.

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I guess your too young to remember the mess in the seventys?? I did school work by candle light, climbed over piles of rubbish on my way to school, This country was bancrupted by a weak labour goverment and the unions thatcher had to be tough we were the sick man of europe she crushed the unions for the greater good and sadly the old industry was past it's sell by date so that was scrapped , At the same time thousands of ordanary folk had for the first time a chance to better themselves, a chance to own property the conservertives have done far more to help people get on and better themselves than labour and thats a fact.. For instance how many people owned horses, there own house,car, traveled overseas for hoildays, . or had central heating etc in the seventys but by the late 80s these were comonplace thanks to the tory goverment... gordon and his 3rd rate team have knackerd it ... thats
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i noticed some mentioning welfare hand outs well as far as im concern stop em all and get the bloody scrounges working. you walk through towns seeing people doin no work smoking what ever they are smoking and we pay for it. and labour is happy to dish out hand out after hand out. in some cases it is more profitable for people to sit at home rearing a little tribe of uncontroable brats than it is to do a days hard graft.

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Absolutely brilliant speech, but someone really needs to put G Brown in his place, how rude to smirk and giggle! He is not infallible and wants to remember that!
 
BBC didn't miss it. If you are an avid Radio Four fan you will have heard full coverage given on morning news programme.

I cannot live without Radio Four.

Yes what a mess but I didn't vote labour.
 
Couldn't agree with you more. It is unfortunate but true that you only see how good or bad things are when it affects you directly - and largely that means when you are working, paying bills. When you are at school/uni etc you maybe partially conscious of things being tough but you are still protected from the realities of life.Under the Thatcher goverment I have paid interest on my mortgage at 16% (did go to 18% briefly), paid £600 a year poll tax etc etc. Now under the Labour government I can't get a mortgage as house prices have been allowed to spiral out of control to act as peoples pensions as he has raided all our pensions now and in the future, I earn above the average salary and loose half of it in tax, pay £1300 a year in council tax (inc 25% discount), cost of heating oil has tripled in 5 years, have been threatened with redundancy 3 times in 12 months and help support thousands on all sorts of benefits whilst my own pension is worth next to nothing - yeah what a bang up job Labour have done. Bring on the next election - my spaniel could do a better job.
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I think people also forget that before this recession - Britain was at its highest economically than it has ever been before. House prices were ridiculous.

The problem isn't with the government - it's with people buying cars and televisions and holidays with credit - things they can't afford, and don't need.


Personally (and I won't be checking this thread, so bitch away), I couldn't think of a more horrific thing than a conservative government. Cameron is a hideous vulture.


I mean (re:video blog) who uses a (terrible) analogy in front of the EP? It's completely ridiculous, and sums up the entirety of the right wing propoganda. Yes the man has presence, and gives everyone a good giggle, but personally I feel he made more of a fool of himself then he did G.B. - his speech was something the undergraduate english lit students write.

And to make it clear; I'm no fan of Gordon Brown. Or labour really, but to go back to a conservative government; privatisation, loss of NHS, of a welfare system, and the whole thing with the miners.

AND that's a point - I see plenty of people going on about the 'welfare' system. Congratulations you have a cosy life. When I was thrown out of home a multitude of times in my (young) teens due to various abuses, grew up in foster and social care, developed an illness leaving me in and out of hospital attached to various heart monitors, drips, etcetc - without a disability benefit I wouldn't be here today.

Without the NHS - I wouldn't be here today.

And now - I'm not on benefits. Now I'm training for the public health sector. Volunteering for RDA, a drop in for disabled people and a research assistant on a project relating to brain damage and strokes. Personally, i feel more of a "value" to society than a property developer, building up a mountain of debt and blaming the bankers and government.

Next election, I'll be going lib dems, who have always remained silent and strong. Though of course I will be following the campaigns closely.

Conservatives exist to make the rich richer. A government made of greed, inhumanity and selfishness? I'd take G.B. over Cameron any day. He just makes an idiot out of himself in commons anyway.



/not returning. My thoughts, and that's that.
 
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