How do i convince my parents??? Help please

I don't accept that you can't get a job, i am always able to help people who actually want to work, its just that those who are unemployed [and I include school kids] have a myriad of excuses.
OK if all the local milk rounds are oversubscribed, is there something you would like to do, perhaps helping Katie Price, she needs a personal shopper I believe, seriously if you want something badly enough you will find a way to do it, but if you expect parents to keep handing out to you, then it seems it is not going to work in this instance.
RANT APPROACHING...........
If I want some one off the job centre, for example, I now ask only two Q's
1) are you available for work tomorrow ... they have to say yes as a condition of benefit
2) is there any time you are not available for work tomorrow [amazing how many peeps have emergency dental treatment tomorrow]
Having already ascertained their name and address, I then arrange to pick them up at 9.00 am the next day, most don't turn up and their mobile is turned off! These poor unfortunates then find that they are interviewed by the nasty squad at the Department for Unemployed Mendicants trying to get Benefits from work Oriented Suckers like me [DUMBOS].
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Wow, general conception seems to be 8 years experience isn't enough to have ur own horse, i wonder if i can return all mine as i've only got 5!

As a mother of a pony crazy child, i can tell you that commitment and dedication go a long way, and i agree, show your parents how you have the time. If at a livery yard, you may not have to go twice a day, lots of kids at mine and all go after school as YO turns out on a morning.

I got my first pony off the back of 10 riding lessons, my daughter off the back of 12, we managed fine, it doesn't take years to learn to muck out or groom, if more than a week you'd be dumb!

I'd also say on job front, try hard to find one, but having helped someone your age, it is incredibly difficult at 14, most employers wont touch you and to be likened to dole dossing lazy gits is rather unfair.

Good luck, i was your age once and equally desperate for a pony as my sister had one, i got bought a rabbit :(
 
I think you would be better looking for another share tbh. When we loaned out our pony I would only consider people who had horsey parents, as I personally wouldn't feel happy leaving a teenager with full responsibility for a horse.
Mrs D123, the OP is 14 so is unlikely to be looking for work through the job centre so your rant is unjustified! And as for milk rounds, not had those round here for years, I do sympathise with OP re lack of jobs, both my kids have struggled to find part time work, only 1 paper round locally with a waiting list, any other work would have cost me more in petrol taking them than they would earn!
 
from a parents side of things my step daughter wanted a horse, she pestered, begged, pleaded for one, i told her she would have to prove herself first. she made sure she did all the tedious jobs around the yard and worked hard before she got to ride my horse, after a year i booked her in for proper lessons rather than me telling her what was what on my easy going horse. again she was committed.

after 2yrs of her wanting a horse and proving she was committed i got her a horse, within weeks of that horse arriving she lost interest because she realised that she had to do even more work than what she had done before, she got very lazy and once her horse was injured she refused to help me clean the mares leg up or anything, she never once gave any money towards her upkeep either.

because of that i wouldn't get a horse for someone again, if they want a horse then they do it completely by themselves and i have no part in it, i got too burnt on that one.

so yeah you can say you are committed to having a horse and you will help pay etc but if you were my child i would still say no because theres a strong chance the fascination will wear off.

however if you truely are committed to owning your own horse then the best way is to get a job, you could wash cars for a few quid over a weekend or holiday. what about going to speak to the yard you would like to keep your horse on and explain to them your situation and ask them if they could give you work in return for either reduced livery or if you can work there before hand for experience. so what if you don't get paid, you will learn so much more from it and then you will be fully prepared to owning your own and also it will show your parents you mean business.
 
good grief women!! this is a child your bullying! i have been there, it IS very hard to get a job when your 14 (although not impossible), she has 8 years of experience, and maybe you might not think she sounds like it on here but most teenagers write poorly but that doesnt mean they're dumb! people on here are so quick to jump on an easy target!
 
I don't know where you will find someone to loan you a horse as long as your parents are not behind you, it would be a road map to disaster, unpaid bills, neglected horse etc [not suggesting this would happen, but it might]
I seen no reason why you should not get a savings plan going, all birthday presents to be paid in to the pony fund plus all your wages.
A part loan is more sensible, I for one would not allow a 14 year old girl to take my horse away from his home, but I might allow her to help with him under my supervision, this may sound patronising, but I am more concerned that my horse gets his exercise and is looked after properly that that someone I don't know takes him away and does what she wants.
Girls usually like messing about with ponies, and it can be part of a good structured social life for them, but it does not always go the right way, other things get in the way, fashion, and peer pressures, plus boys interfere with things, and the pony gets sent back home, it happens all the time, the commitment is just to great unless parents are totally supportive.
 
dear OP - please bear in mind that most [ & i say most, maybe not all] parents do not enjoy saying no to something that really matters to their children - if your parents are saying no it may be because it may really be impossible [ at 14 - you may not totally know the financial situation at home] - my daughter wanted to go on a school ski trip - it cost a grand - i HAD to say no - not because i am mean/horrid but because we didn't have a grand sitting about:(
 
As above, your parents may really want to get you a horse (though I would be a little unconvinced by you so far) but not be able to afford it. As horses are not their passion and they work for their money, they should not have to sacrifice their holiday or similar for you to have a horse, that is my decision to do as an adult. My parents could afford it but I still had to prove my worth with grades, budgeting, household chores etc.

Sharer was literally my sharer, ie on part loan until she outgrew my horses. She only has her own on loan as it was my sisters and I couldn't bear to see it sold, works for both of us, her parents pay part loan amount which they can manage and don't seem to mind doing, I cover the shortfall and get to keep her in the family. Neither of us could afford the horse on our own (Sharer only being 15) and I wouldn't have time to exercise it either so would not have had her.

BUT Sharer put in 18 months hard work putting up with my youngsters and crap horses, then me scaling down so she only had small ones to ride which she outgrew, helping me out but no riding and riding some proper rubbish/psychotic horses for other people until Shoe came along. She was there all winter wrestling young horses in and out of lorrys, carrying hayledge emptying wheel barrows, putting jumps up and watching me jump our favourite pony who she is too big for, walking my dogs in the rain, building wooden stables carting hay to the field in the snow and ice and all sorts. Basically my unpaid groom, skivy and stunt rider. She also dog sits for me for free as long as it doesn't bugger up school.

I guess what I am trying to say is if you are worth your weight in gold it may happen regardless of parental circumstances. If you are not this invaluable you need to stay as you are learn as much as you can and be helpful (when invited to be). This runs to at home too. When Sharer's parents annoy her she now pauses and counts in her head One Shoe Three as if they fall out, non horsey parents may ground her and then 2 things happen, She doesn't get to see Shoe, and I have more work to do which is unfair. You also have to keep your school work up which if you are constantly dwelling on not having a horse it won't be.

Search on here for the thread 'Poor kids' it mentions a little girl who wants to be a lady jockey because round horses you can be happy. Poor little child is probably a lot younger than you and can only day dream about touching a pony's nose as her idea of happy. Most importantly try to be grateful for what you have, even if it really sucks. Sharer loved everyone of those crazy stupid, dangerous or ignorant horses she put up with, in it's way because it was the nearest she could get to her own. If I win the lotto I'll by her a stable full, because she earnt it. Some people are lucky and don't deserve it. Sounds like you will have to make your own luck!

Ok grown up bit over!! I really do hope you get one but you may have to earn it.
 
OP, have your parents told you WHY you can't have a horse?

I didn't have a horse as a child, I bought one at 17 when I'd saved up my own money to buy one. My parents would have loved to buy me a horse, and knew I would have been dedicated to look after one, but they didn't have the money. I had to accept that. I remember being very upset, but tbh (and I'm not trying to be patronising) it teaches a good life lesson that sometimes, no matter what happens, you just can't always get what you want.

My horse is on DIY, I have to look after her twice a day and she costs me over £250 a month. That is a lot of money for some people. Have you costed out how much a horse would cost to keep in your area.
 
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If your parents really aren't prepared to let you have a horse (and they are terribly expensive things -horses, not parents!), then virtually nothing you can say will talk them round. I bet I am not the only person on this forum who BEGGED for a horse throughout their entire childhood, and had to wait until they were an adult before they eventually got one.
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I'm going to echo this ^^^

I spent years trying to get my parents to buy me a pony, but they were having none of it, in the end I had to save up and buy one myself when I was 18
 
Are you mature enough to own a horse? Your parents would know this best, part loan would be very different to a full one since you'd have all the resposibility. Ie) injured ringing and explaining to the vet what's wrong without panicking. Although I'm only 18 and had my pony for 7 years, it has meant that I have had to be very mature about things and through out my time at school I have had to make sarificies, which I didn't mind since I adore my pony. In other words I can't go out every Friday and get drunk because I have a little friend who would like feeding at 8.30 and I'm not going to let my pony suffer because I'm nursing a hangover. Put it this way, I know many people who were around your age, got a horse, enjoyed it for a year or so then realized their social life has to take a hit. All of those people now no longer have a horse. Out of the kids on my yard from when I first got my pony aged 11, which was about 20 of us..three of us are left with horses. Think not about now, but also the future. College, uni. I've chosen my university around my horse since she's happy where she is now and getting older so don't wanna change her routine. Think about what you want to do in the future not just this summer holiday.
 
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