How do you approach parent of screaming child?

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The current one at the top of the post says "Stop Tantrums in 3 Steps". Not just coincidence, but I've never noticed before and think it's very clever - I'm off to find out if it works on other posts.........
 
I would lure the child to the furthest shed (if you have them) on the yard and lock her in there until she stopped screaming!!
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And if she doesn't stop at least you wont hear her!!!
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My little boy 4 yrs can be a hand full at times but he knows I do not tolerate too much noise on the yard. Firstly it is not fair on the horses and secondly I go there for peace and relaxing time.

If I was on livery and heard all that I would be mighty fed up paying for noise and hassle!
 
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Really worried now... i can see an advert for size 16 plus...

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OK - so doesn't always work...........!
 
I was going to through a bucket of water over her - but oh said that would be classed as assult ! so just learning some very rude and lewd songs - which i shall sing at the top of my voice... hopefully mummy will run over and ask me in some manner to stop and i can then say of course i will, when the child is quite....
 
the middle one - happychildguide.com - print something off there and give it to the mother!!

Seriously though (if we are still being serious by this
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Seriously though (if we are still being serious by this
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a gag maybe??
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before you all moan at me

yes I know it is not your job, but just try talking to the child, my number three is a screamer, and I hate it. As soon as someone talks to him he will shut up, and stand like a little angel.

clearly mum needs to get the child doing something, whilst she is doing pony, one of the best things is too get them to clean out the grooming kit, it is easy, safe and for a 4 year old it will take along time.

have a word with mum, she is more than likely just as jacked off as you.

I tend to find a good old slap does not work on a screamer, they just scream more. A child is screaming because it wants something or needs something. I cant stand children which dont do as they are told, but they behave in this manner for a reason. it does not take that much to stop the cycle.

As the mother of a screamer, I will always stop to help, aid the mother of another child which is doing the same because chances are no matter what the mother says to that child it will make no difference, but your one word to the child could.
 
ask the mother of said screaming brat if it ill if she asks why tell her that child is always screaming so i thought it was in pain ,and tell her stright its spooking the horses and other people dont want to listen to a child screaming they want to have me time with there horses not feel like its a mental asylum im sure shell tell it shut up or pony goes ,i couldnt stand it myself id of told her the first time or put up a signe please keep children under controll and quiet or give it a nintendo ds
 
Gosh there's lots of posts about telling the child to shut up or worse. Try talking to the mother. Mothers do get very tired and maybe this mother is just trying to get through like the rest of us are.
You could also find that if you all took it in turns now and again to talk to the child he/she might return the courtesy by not screaming all the time. I am a yard owner with young children and there are other children on our yard as well. they are all well behaved because they are used to my livery clients taking the time to talk to them and they respond accordingly. Try asking the child now and again to tip the feed into your buckets things like that - you might be surprised at the change in the childs behaviour. My children all loved 'helping' when they were that little.
I know that children can be annoying but as I say a little distraction now and again from you and other clients might work wonders.
If my kids have friends around then one of my clients will tell them quietly if they are being too noisy or are likely to scare any horses or the client comes to me and I deal with anything. It doesn't happen often though because everyone gets along here. Because they know everyone well then the children, most of the time, behave very well. So my advice is try talking quietly to the mum first rather than going to your yard owner, sometimes a chat works wonders.
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I tend to find a good old slap does not work on a screamer, they just scream more. A child is screaming because it wants something or needs something. I cant stand children which dont do as they are told, but they behave in this manner for a reason. it does not take that much to stop the cycle.



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Yes this child is seeking attention, because its mother is dealing with the pony and taking no notice of 'it'. (As I have no knowledge of whether this child is male or female, I shall us the gender neutral word.) The mother needs to provide distraction for her offspring, possibly in the form of tidying out the grooming box, or maybe even grooming its own pony. She certainly needs to make sure that her child is not disturbing other people or spoiling their quiet enjoyment of their own horses. If the mother cannot see that this is her responsibility, then the YO should ask her to either make alternative childcare arrangements or find somewhere else to keep her pony. I really dislike badly-behaved children and dislike even more the parents who refuse to take responsibility for bringing up their children properly. Apart from anything else it's not fair to the children.
 
Unless you want to get involved on some level with the child - like speaking to it and asking what the problem is / do you want something to drink / how about helping to stuff these hay nets, to alleviate possible child boredom or lack of attention (which of course could all backfire when you then find you have a new puppy following you everywhere), I suggest you speak to YO and see if they can gently bring it up with the parent without resorting to banning kids altogether. If the mum is at her wits end, then perhaps she wouldn't mind at all if someone spoke strongly to the child (most parents would agree that their own kids don't hear the parent's voice at all).

If on the other hand the mum couldn't give a toss that their kid is acting up and being a nuisance, bend down and whisper to the kid that if they don't shut up you will pinch them, then as they start to cry just leg it fast out of there looking innocent.
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Do the parents not think that a screaming, naughty child is not what everyone wants to deal with? why is it the childless or people with well behaved children that have to be subjected to this torture? I honestly would not be paid to look after said child, and to be paying for the privledge of listening to this is to be frank a complete and utter joke! I have been at the "child free" and by this I refer to children under the age of 10 - yard for the past 4 years... why should i move?

I certainly do not want to issue the ultimatum (sp) of either she goes with her one pony and one lesson a week or i do with my 3 horses and 4 lessons a week - as I do not think that the service you get should really differ by the amount of wonga you spend and in buisness if ever staff have issued me with an "or else" I have always taken the "or else" as i will not tolerate being "threatend".

I shall speak to the yo tomorrow - at least i will know how soon i need to move then !
 
I don't understand why the child is screaming, i have never met a 4 year old that screams constantly. I think i would ask the chid if she is ok. If you enter into dialogue with her, you will probably find that the mother will come over and join in, then perhas you can speak to her in a non confrontational way. Other than that, i would speak to the yo, i am sure there will be others who have done the same.
My son got his pony when he was 4 and was kept far too busy on the yard to even think of being a nuisance to anyone. Why isn't the mum getting her involved in looking after the pony, sounds like she is bored and cold.
 
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sorry i am the bad guy? yet the talk here is of telling kids to shut up and getting a slap, if we were talking about horses then the uproar wold be huge... this may be the womans only way of relaxing and she too is paying good money so was it explained to her that it is a child free yard? if not than that is an issue with the YO not her.

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If you are going to be rude to the OP about spelling then I must say it is "would" not "wold".

OP - Have a word with the YO. I would hate a screaming child at the yard. If I were to scream my head off around horses at that age my mum wouldn't let me up the yard! (I never did scream, I was a shy, quiet child
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"she dont wanttooooooooooo, waaaaghhhhhhh, pleeeeeasassseeeeeeeee, urrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, mummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, waghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh," you get the picture. I have only seen delightful child once when she was quite.
 
realy should she pussy foot with someone elses child every day to keep it quiet ,i think not yards can de dangerous places if some one was working with a horse and it got spooked by screaming the child could get trampled, the mother needs to keep it under controll or sell the pony the child is obviously not intrested in spending time with her pony as its screaming for something else when its at the yard,
 
monkeybum13... dont worry its only MrWoof - reincarnated - she will be much nastier before she gets banned again and tbh i never take much notice of these pathetic deliberatly nasty types..... they are worse than trolls
 
a its a real mardy ass then id start laughting if its that bad maybee you will embaress it in to shutting its winging gob ,,does mommy say yes of course you can darling and take no notice ,because if thats the case be blunt tell it how it is ,pussy footing is how the child got that way
 
Hey Gingerwitch - Mine was just a suggestion as it sounds like you like your yard and want to stay. I know that a screaming child has the capacity to drive anyone nuts but sometime literally just saying something to them or asking them a question results in exactly what you are looking for - peace and quiet. If any of mine had screamed constantly they would have been removed hastily from the scene but then it is my yard so that would have been easy to do. I wonder if that mother tries to get through all her horse chores asap as you get hyper aware when you you know that your child is driving anyone mad.
 
I'm horrified by some of the replies here... seriously if ANYONE dared give my child a slap or tell them to shut up I'd be giving them a slap and filling their mouths.. yep, mums are protective over their kids, far far worse than horsey women over their horses.
Yes chucking a bucket of water over the child would be deemed as assault.
Why shouldnt the mother be there? So, they bought a pony for their child.. and? Why does that make the child spoilt? Mine was coming to the yard with me age 14 months, and sometimes she'd scream, but other adults actually had the mental maturity to understand that a child is a child. They're not like dog, you can't say 'quiet' and they're quiet. Why shouldn't children be on yards? I've heard allsorts over the years including the pearler "well! I NEVER had a pony till I could pay for it myself!" which was replied with "so... you're jealous of a three year old? wow".

Speak to the mother, mucking out with a cold child in tow is never any fun, but perhaps if people on the yard interacted with the child instead of ignoring 'it' and seeing it as a nuisance then 'it' might be less bored and more inclined to help out.
Kids are FAB cheap labour for poo picking and cleaning grooming kits
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This is why I do not like taking my daughter to the yard! I get soo embarassed when she gets gurny. Maybe if OH is with me and he can take her off on a walk somewhere far FAR away from the horses then it will be fine. But the last thing they want up there is a screaming baby in a confined space!
Last time we took her up she fell asleep in the car and we just left her in there with the window down enough and checked on her every 20 mins - you would have heard her cry but not so loud as it would disturb everyone.

And as much as I want my little one around horses, I think that I still see it as a place for adults to chill after work. lol. If I do still have my boy when she is old enough I think I will get her a mini wheel barrow and a brush and give her chores to do.
 
'Speak to the mother, mucking out with a cold child in tow is never any fun, but perhaps if people on the yard interacted with the child instead of ignoring 'it' and seeing it as a nuisance then 'it' might be less bored and more inclined to help out.
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With you all the way there Charlie
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If I do still have my boy when she is old enough I think I will get her a mini wheel barrow and a brush and give her chores to do.

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I tried that but sadly my two are boys and they are far more interested now in golf - I did teach them how to count though by counting the poos when they used to try and help me muck out when they were small.
I am now wating for them to be old enough for their feet to touch the pedals so they can drive the harrows around over the school
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I can never understand why people expect other adults to act as unpaid childminders
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Children take a lot of time and attention, if the child is missing out on the parent giving it attention because of a pony the child is obviously not interested in, then get rid of the pony. Seems a simple solution to me. If the child is not old enough to be interested and is cold and unhappy then surely the need to sort this out comes higher on the prioritues than owning a pony.
 
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