How do you make that decision?

Marchtime

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I've had Jesper since he was 4yrs old. Aged 5yrs he was diagnosed with PSD in his left hind. Luckily after six months off he made a good recovery and became a lovely dressage horse. Heartbreakingly a few years later he was diagnosed with collateral ligament damage in both fronts following an MRI at Liphook. He had nine months off and returned to work sound as a light hack. This time last year, aged 10yrs, he fully retired. He was 1/10th lame when ridden but clearly not comfortable. The vet suspected he was also lame behind again.
He was paddock sound and so has spent the last year living the life of luxury. He goes out during the day and is stabled at night. He won't tolerate living out and won't tolerate sharing a field with other horses. Until December last year I thought we'd have him as a much loved pet for a long time.
Since the beginning of January he has been 3/10ths lame in the paddock. I trot him up once a week to keep an eye on his lameness. The vet came and had a look but didn't have any suggestions as we've no treatment options left. Previously he's had days when he's looked less sound but he's never had a period of lameness like this since being retired.
My problem is how do I make that heart breaking decision that enough is enough. My stunning boy is happy in himself, his coat is bright, he's alert and a good weight but he is clearly lame in hand. When he's been in pain previously he's been grumpy and withdrawn but with this lameness episode he hasn't been but I can't help but think he must be because of how lame he is. I've always had the mentally lameness = pain. Now I don't know.
I'm thinking the time has come when it might be time to call it a day. I always said when we couldn't keep him paddock sound I would but it's so hard when he looks so well. I just want to do what is right for him.
Sorry for a long, self indulgent post. It doesn't help Sammy, my previous horse, died seven years ago tomorrow. February has always been an unlucky month for me.
Hot chocolate if you made it this far.
 
In your position I would try magnetic boots. I have had success with them before. They might not have any effect but it's worth a try, they won't do any harm, even if they do no good. I would then be guided by the horse. I understand what you are saying, that if he is lame he must at least be in some discomfort. But IME when they have had enough they tell you. If he seems bright and happy in himself, just go with the flow but be prepared for things to change at any time.
Good luck!
 
Hi ive been looking for updates on jasper.You know you have my sympathy vote have been in same place as you.I bought Ollie some magnetic hoofboots you are welcome to give them a try I dont use them anymore and they are expensive to buy new.
Hows the new boy ?
 
it must be very hard for you, sorry to read your thoughts. you will know him better than anyone. if he seems bright and not in any pain, although i understand this may be difficult to tell in some circumstances, then i would maybe see how is in the summer, let him see summer thru then re access the situation?
i have a mare with very bad sweetitch, i always said if it made her not rideable then i'd have her pts, however, she is now not rideable, but i can make her comfortable to a certain degree in the summer and she seems happy so i'm holding fire for the time being. it is tough thou. hugs.xxx
 
Having just made the decision this week with an owner, once they dont have a quality of life left and there disability is causing them not to be able to be a horse then then time has come.

Our chap, although not lame was just not right, due to hind limb and front limb lameness, he had got very grumpy in his stable, would go out for an hour then want in, and generally not as he was this time last year.

We put him on 4 bute a day, and the difference in him was amazing, this just proved to us that his pain was now sufficient to be causing him suffering, and he was PTS on Monday. Very very hard decision for us as he looked so well, but putting him on bute for a week showed us just how miserable he really was.

Made doubly hard as we had just lost a dear old mare 7 days before.

It is a terribly hard decision but a good one, as they have no concept of tomorrow just today, and as I was told many years ago, why would you want to keep them old or uncomfortable when we can give them the gift of being young and free again.
 
Cellie they're a nightmare aren't they. Problem is vet thought the lameness could be any combination of the front collateral ligaments, hind suspensory or even query hock issues, back either sacroilliac or kissing spines and possible front suspensory. I wouldn't even know where to start putting the magnetic boots and he's a nightmare for chewing things! I've got physio coming out Friday to assess him as vets biggest concern was his back which has never been an issue before. Obviously with him being retired I'm not willing to investigate but he suspected kissing spines and he did react badly when pressure was put on his back. I really trust my physio and she's known when he's been in pain before so I'll guess I'll see what she says.
I worry his quality of life is rubbish. He won't stay out but that means if it snows he's stuck in because the yard is icy and dangerous. I always thought it would be an easy decision when the time came with him but it seems he's going gradually downhill and I don't know how far to let him slide.
Chapulin is growing up fast. He's now 14.3 and only eighteen months old. He's happy living out with my old girl luckily.
How's Ollie?
 
I had phone call from Amanda his new owner last night .He is barefoot and walks out round the village has a small trot on soft ground and asked to canter the other day .Looks completely field sound.He couldnt cope with the work load that I needed but is happy as anything with small plod out and plenty of turnout.I have been so lucky finding him good home.She rides him in parelli bitless bridle or halter lol this is the ex sprinter that always wanted to go at 100mph .
My new mare is doing really well works in outline and resembles horse rather than giraffe.Much harder work than gelding but I like her.Daughter has given up so think I will have to think about sj .Just wish she was a bit slower.
I dont know what to say about Jesper horrible decision
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spring might make difference if he is achey all over .Bit of heat in his joints could make all the difference bless him.
 
Is he on any bute? Personally if he was mine I would bute him up for the summer, give him a lovely time off and have him PTS in the autumn. That way he's had a good retirement, even if its not for the years you imagined it would be, and gone out on a high, rather than the horrible decline that a lot of owners let their horses get in to.
 
Poor boy, sounds very much like my mare - I knew the time had come in July as she just started to look defeated with the pain - and for the first time ever started to refuse to let the Bowen lady that treated her regularly near her - She just "told" us enough...at that point she was on 6 Danilon a day to try and keep her paddock sound, following full retirement in April.

We had tried everything over 18 months when she first went lame, steroids, massage, adequan, magnetic boots and a rug, she had surgery for her PSD in the December prior, but never came right and her back had started hurting her again (she also had arthritis, deformed spinal processes and ligament impingement on top of Navicular and spavins)
Following retirement She seemed happy enough in her self being a very pampered garden ornament and looked well and happy on two Danilon a day..but...
Her nemesis was a sudden onset of high articular ringbone that wouldn't respond to treatment. It crippled her in the space of three months (we had xrays showing clear in November and she was 6/10's lame and worsening by end Feb)

I have photographs taken of her the day before she was pts and they just break my heart, her spark has gone completely and I knew absolutely that it was time to end her suffering

*bawling*
 
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