How do you work out the warmth of layered rugs?

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How warm would a 200g Premier Equine turnout (with neck cover) with a standard Weatherbeeta fleece under it be? I am working on the principle that the fleece will trap lots of warm air in it but it is causing a lot of static! Would it be warmer with a lightweight (100g) stable rug under it?
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Not desperately warm if your weather is anything like mine today.......

My horse is in 500g worth of turnout rug and could still do with a little more.
 
500g GEE can he move
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I thought my WB Taka at 300g was warm, now I am going to have to consider putting 2 on my old boy
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... or is the Taka 400g
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I thought 300g was 12oz in old money????
 
I have got a 115g under rug full neck with a 220g stable rug on my TB which totals 335g and although not hot is about what Im happy to put on her- i guess im an old traditional at heart and as long as they are not loosing weight/shivering then i beleive them to be fine- although other livery has 900g on her horse tonight.....
 
900g ... it gets worse.
Someone will call the RSPCA if they catch up with me, as my clipped TB is in a biscuit thin rug, as he gets sooooo hot and I mainly clip him so that I can rug him ... if I rug and don't clip he gets a skin problem. He must be the only TB that is a 'good doer' as he lives on fresh air and needs little or no rugs
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As long as you have a layer that can trap hot air(bodyheat)!!If you stick to many rugs on the warm air cannot circulate,there is a fine line between enough and too much!!
 
It also depends on the horse! every Shire x I have ever known (known a few and owned one) has been extremely sensitive to the cold (and ACP - that's another story though). Equally, I know of a fair few TB's that you just can't put too many rugs on, as they are simply steaming by morning!
 
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900g ... it gets worse.
Someone will call the RSPCA if they catch up with me, as my clipped TB is in a biscuit thin rug, as he gets sooooo hot and I mainly clip him so that I can rug him ... if I rug and don't clip he gets a skin problem. He must be the only TB that is a 'good doer' as he lives on fresh air and needs little or no rugs
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Mine does well too.lol!!!I have him rugged well at the mo as he is losing his coat and suddenly turn -7 ere
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If you put too many rugs on the layers get squashed and don't trap as much air so the horse is actually colder.

Mine are in HW turnouts and I pop a 70g turnout over the top at night.

I don't change them into stable rugs.
 
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It also depends on the horse! every Shire x I have ever known (known a few and owned one) has been extremely sensitive to the cold (and ACP - that's another story though). Equally, I know of a fair few TB's that you just can't put too many rugs on, as they are simply steaming by morning!

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Whereas my Shire x TB mare was going ape at 7 this morning in her stable because she was too hot and wanted her rug OFF NOW! She's not clipped but she is moulting and she hates being too hot. Whereas my Welshy thinks he's being hard done by with a LW stable under a full neck heavyweight turn out - he's stabled too.
 
Do rugs lose their warmth as they get older? I've got a Rhino stable rug (350g I think) which is three years old and been cleaned twice, with a 150g Amigo lightweight underneath. My unclipped but very fine coated QH has been only just warm enough these last few very cold nights; if its around freezing point, her body is so lovely andwarm when I change the rugs I just want to cuddle up to her!!!
 
The amount of rugs your horse needs depends on him, a good indicator of there warmth is the base of the ear... i live my life sticking my hands done rugs and grabbing ears! I would say 100g would be warmer than a fleece, however doesnt mean your horse needs it. If his condition and weight is being maintained with what your doing, dont worry about it! Weight loose will usually occur if the horse is cold, and can be quite rapid, it can also occur if the horse is being caused stress through too much warmth too...

Thistle, what make is your 70g turnout? that sounds very useful!
 
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