How does a horse show he trusts you?

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Any examples?

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I was told/read a long time ago that if a horse lets you stroke between his eyes without flinching then he trusts you, as it is a blind spot??? Or between their ears I suppose too?

Not running away from you is always a good sign too lol.
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when he lets you lead him past the 'killer' sheep whilst out hacking without even trying to run away....
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when he lets you nip into his field on your way past to quickly pick out his feet, no head collar/lead rope etc...
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when you clonk him with the mucking out fork, and he just looks at you as if to say 'clumsy clutz' instead of freaking out...
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when you can walk underneath him!
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when he sniffs and then licks your cuts
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and not running away when he sees you is always a good start!
 
I think a domestic horse that has been handled froma young age will automatically trust any human to an extent. They mere fact they let us near them is trust enough given that their wild side would tell them to flee from pretty much anything that moves.

A show of real trust beyond just human horse bond for me is the willingness to do something even if they are truely afraid of it. My horse would do pretty much anything I asked of her, becasue she trusts me, if I ask her to walk into a river, she does it, off the edge of a steep drop, she does it. Anyone else and she would refuse to take the risk.
 
Walks down the scarey horsewalk at Hartpury College even tho the RDA ramp, air conditioning units and abandoned judges' huts freak her out!

Lets me adjust rugs, take off dangling tailbags, pick out feet in the field. Let me catch her when we'd both been zapped by the electric fence and she'd gone galloping off into the blue yonder....

But it's a two way thing - I trust her to be good in the show ring when she's been a complete monkey warming up, and she is
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" A show of real trust beyond just human horse bond for me is the willingness to do something even if they are truely afraid of it. My horse would do pretty much anything I asked of her, becasue she trusts me, if I ask her to walk into a river, she does it, off the edge of a steep drop, she does it. Anyone else and she would refuse to take the risk. "

I could not agree more. My Arab, who I have had two years is exactly like this. My new youngster, only had 6 weeks or so and although getting there, is no where near the real sense of trust stage.
 
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A show of real trust beyond just human horse bond for me is the willingness to do something even if they are truely afraid of it. My horse would do pretty much anything I asked of her, becasue she trusts me, if I ask her to walk into a river, she does it, off the edge of a steep drop, she does it. Anyone else and she would refuse to take the risk.

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agree.

You need a mutual understanding of each other, as well as respect, be good at reading their body language, be good at letting them read yours, being firm but fair, be strong yet gentle.

Trust is something you build on everyday, I do feel some horses like people can be more trusting than others due to their individual temperaments.

Also as silly as it sounds, a happy and content horse is a horse that will trust you, its harder gaining trust from a horse with a broken mind.

Over humanised horses tend to be less trusting than a horse that has a bit of a wild streak in it, hard to explain but they take to leadership much better.
 
When you can sit on the floor in his stable while he munches hay, using your head as a occasional hay-rest
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When they really would prefer not to do something through anxiety or uncertainty, and do it because you ask them. Similarly being relaxed around you and accepting, within reason, your 'will' and actions.

The important thing is never to abuse this trust.
 
When you can sit with him in his stable whilst he's lying down.

When he licks your tears if you cry.

When he dares to tip toe past something scary because you tell him it's ok.
 
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when he lets you lead him past the 'killer' sheep whilst out hacking without even trying to run away....
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when he lets you nip into his field on your way past to quickly pick out his feet, no head collar/lead rope etc...
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when you clonk him with the mucking out fork, and he just looks at you as if to say 'clumsy clutz' instead of freaking out...
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All of the above- I'm lucky in that my horse will let me do practically anything to him without having to tie him up. (except clean the 'injury du jour' with antiseptic!
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). I can rug, de-rug, pick out feet and tack up with him loose. Apart from a couple of times when he has stood patiently until I turn to pick up the saddle only to find he's at the other side of the school when I turn back to him!
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He acts so proud of himself for having pulled a fast one.

I think trust is a two way street and he has to know that I trust him too for our relationship to work as well as it does. He will take the P with others though, as a friend who used to keep her horse at mine found out! M was bringing him in for me one night and normally he walks straight to his stable when I open the field gate but on this occasion she let him out and he stood patiently while she latched the gate, and then took off up the drive- almost a "Cheers for that! See you later" She caught him round the corner grazing on the nice long grass!
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(He's kept at home so I'm quite happy to work with him like this- before I get slated! He's ultra safe to work around and I know him well enough to know what we can and can't do.)
I just have to remind myself when around other horses that I can't do this with them!
 
A woman on the yard, a happy hacker, bought her horse as a 5 year old. He is now 23 and has never been on trailer/lorry in the 18 years she has owned him, she's just hacked from the yard the whole time. The other day I was taking mine back to the vet.

Although it's only a 5-10 minute hack I was going on the trailer as he was particularly lame that day and couldn't walk down. She was taking hers for jabs at the same time and as it was raining offered her a lift. She said she wasn't sure if he'd go on but would give it a try. He looked a bit worried and had a good look at the trailer but then just followed her on like a puppy. That's some trust. Mine on the other hand who goes on twice a week, threw his "lame" self around like a loon. He doesn't lack any trust in me, he's just a bolshy git who likes his own way and didn't want to go that day. He does it sometimes. As soon as he realised it hurt and he wasn't getting away with it, he walked on perfectly happily!
 
When I can lay in the field reading a book and he grazes next to me and when he is tired lays down and sleeps.

On the morning of his accident laying with his head in my lap whilst 6 people dismantled a stable around him using electric screwdrivers and never turned a hair.

When I need to dress his wounded foot he not only picks the foot up but picks up and extends the entire leg so I can bathe it, apply the creme and dress it with no need to bend down and can see everything clearly. All this without a head collar or leadrope.

He is just four and a half and continues to amaze me.
 
When he eventually comes out of the corner, after you have tried to free school him for the 1st time and discover he has obvioulsy been very badly beaten and chased over fences at some point in his time. When the lad discovered that the whips meant "go on lad - go round again" rather than a beating - and after he free jumped for the 1st time and got given a mint for being good - so off he went and he bronked and went round again and jumped the fence - he trotted back to me "saying - look i did well didn't i - can i have a mint". And finally when the session was over he came and stood in front of me but would not come to myside as the schooling whip was lying on the floor - as soon as I moved to the side of the whip he came straight to myside. When he canters to me in the field even though it is summer, when he watches me arrive at the yard and wonders down to the fence to great me - and when he lets me muck out without running to the corner of his stable. And when he lets me put suncream on his nose with out a head collar - even though he hates it. And when he hides behind me when someone shouts in anger and when he whickers when i approach even though his horsey friends are with him. I really am a lucky owner
 
Mine gave me the perfect example this afternoon, i got a call that the farmer was harvesting the wheat right next to his field and that he was terrified and galloping round, even though all the other horses were calm...one lying down fast asleep!

I got there and he ran right up to me and hid behind me shaking. I sat in the field with him for the next 2 hours, if i walked closer to the dreaded combine harvester he followed me, still shaking like a leaf but going because I obviously thought it was okay. After two hours we both fell fast asleep side by side, with tractors, combines and balers 20m away. I dont know if thats trust, but he certainly wanted to be with me. Every time I walked away he started running again. Poor pony, very stressul day!
 
Mine? After he had his accident in a horse box that left him unable to walk he dragged himself out of the box by his front legs, because we asked him to get out. He then lay with his head in OH lap for nearly and hour and a half on the side of the road before the vet arrived and after treatment and another hour he managed to stand if someone held his tail. Unbelievably, he got back into the trailer because we asked him to, he never hesitated just followed me in. I knew then he trusted us, in the same way I knew as soon as we moved he would come crashing down again.
 
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